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    Quote Originally Posted by ni4ni View Post
    bro, I do NOT have a clue. I just bought it cuz I liked it + my son wanted it. It will get up and go tho. diff not a diesel although it could be..fuc Ive been putting reg gas in it!
    ya think my kids are spoiled? I DO!!
    lol its def not a diesel. you would know if it were.

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    Here was my baby with the dyno sheet to prove it. Keep in mind that's wheel horsepower and wheel torque. Of course every dyno is different and dyno numbers don't mean much but it was a super fast car.

    I miss it but I think I was getting a bit old to be in it LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I'm riding this to DSM's wedding

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    ahhh i love subarus

    ive owned 2 but never had a chance to modify them. cuz id drive them to death in a matter of months

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    ahhh i love subarus

    ive owned 2 but never had a chance to modify them. cuz id drive them to death in a matter of months

    lol
    They are a lot of fun and it's an expensive hobby!

    It is a great feeling crushing beastie v8's with a 4 cylinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittBoy View Post
    They are a lot of fun and it's an expensive hobby!

    It is a great feeling crushing beastie v8's with a 4 cylinder
    yep

    my old boss had one like yours with about the same horsepower and we would take it out after work and just kill some mustangs and cameros

    we even crushed a few porches. that was so much fun

    till we came across an audi S4 i think it was, on the PA turnpike and he murdered us doing 140mph!

    lol

    but it was a hell of a race

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    yep

    my old boss had one like yours with about the same horsepower and we would take it out after work and just kill some mustangs and cameros

    we even crushed a few porches. that was so much fun

    till we came across an audi S4 i think it was, on the PA turnpike and he murdered us doing 140mph!

    lol

    but it was a hell of a race
    Didn't street race much but I did get into some highway side by side takeoffs.

    It is a rush!

    Used to go to flashlight drag races that they would have at small airports. Those were fun too

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    yep

    my old boss had one like yours with about the same horsepower and we would take it out after work and just kill some mustangs and cameros

    we even crushed a few porches. that was so much fun

    till we came across an audi S4 i think it was, on the PA turnpike and he murdered us doing 140mph!

    lol

    but it was a hell of a race
    you dont want to mess with ze germans. stock those s4's are amazing cars. turbo v8 4.2L or twin turbo 2.7 v6, they put up some nasty power for stock cars, and not extremely expensive either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    you dont want to mess with ze germans. stock those s4's are amazing cars. turbo v8 4.2L or twin turbo 2.7 v6, they put up some nasty power for stock cars, and not extremely expensive either.
    yea i researched them afterwards and they are impressive

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    man wish i could post up a pic of my ride..
    havd 06 Dodge charger
    tinted windows
    Black Pearl
    Billet grill
    22 inch chrome wheels
    competion amps and subwoofers
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    and best of all..its PAID OFF
    but ima sell it sooner or later..I'm too known in that car

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    Pittboy what times did your car run 0-60mph & 1/4th ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK View Post
    Pittboy what times did your car run 0-60mph & 1/4th ?
    Hey big....sorry I missed this.

    I never ran a timed quarter and the airport runs were a supposed 1/8th of a mile. They were setup more for grudge match runs and were very basic. A chick with a flashlight to start you off and some cones for the finish line. Based on the setups of others with a good launch, on pump gas I should have ran high 11's. On a good race gas tune and good driving the car should have been in the high 10's.

    Never measured my 0-60. With that setup the 0-60 wasn't that great though. A completely stock version EVO or STI could crush me in the 0-60. My car was setup more for topend. Ideal run would be atleast 1/4 mile. Was still fun though.

    Sucked that the closest real drag strip was over an hour from me. I didn't want to break something that far away.

    I should have went with a blouche dominator 3.0 turbo too...same power levels but it spooled more like a stock turbo. So I would have run much better on the shorter tracks...Was still a fun car and I had some good times with it.

    If I had to do it again I would have bought one already built and saved a lot of cash.

    Built cars don't sell much more than stock ones...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittBoy View Post
    Hey big....sorry I missed this.

    I never ran a timed quarter and the airport runs were a supposed 1/8th of a mile. They were setup more for grudge match runs and were very basic. A chick with a flashlight to start you off and some cones for the finish line. Based on the setups of others with a good launch, on pump gas I should have ran high 11's. On a good race gas tune and good driving the car should have been in the high 10's.

    Never measured my 0-60. With that setup the 0-60 wasn't that great though. A completely stock version EVO or STI could crush me in the 0-60. My car was setup more for topend. Ideal run would be atleast 1/4 mile. Was still fun though.

    Sucked that the closest real drag strip was over an hour from me. I didn't want to break something that far away.

    I should have went with a blouche dominator 3.0 turbo too...same power levels but it spooled more like a stock turbo. So I would have run much better on the shorter tracks...Was still a fun car and I had some good times with it.

    If I had to do it again I would have bought one already built and saved a lot of cash.

    Built cars don't sell much more than stock ones...........


    I was thinking that's why it wasn't fast 0-60 when you said stock cars could stick or beat you in it.

    Really nice car though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK View Post
    I was thinking that's why it wasn't fast 0-60 when you said stock cars could stick or beat you in it.

    Really nice car though.
    Thanks! I do miss it.......

    Not everyone likes the lag of a big turbo....but to me it would be the equivalent of Test E for forum's sake. It may not take off like a rocket but once you feel it kick in........watch out!!!

    I still did beat chevelles, GTO's, malibu's, mustangs and those kinds of cars 0-60. Anything else AWD with a turbo and I would be in trouble in that short distance.

    I would launch at 4,500rpm too.....feathering out the clutch of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittBoy View Post
    Thanks! I do miss it.......

    Not everyone likes the lag of a big turbo....but to me it would be the equivalent of Test E for forum's sake. It may not take off like a rocket but once you feel it kick in........watch out!!!

    I still did beat chevelles, GTO's, malibu's, mustangs and those kinds of cars 0-60. Anything else AWD with a turbo and I would be in trouble in that short distance.

    I would launch at 4,500rpm too.....feathering out the clutch of course.


    That's the funniest shit I have read in a while ..... lol

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    Saab is black and that's what I drive everyday
    71 cougar is blue and has only 30k orignal miles, I haven't taken it out of storage in a few years...maybe this year.
    Motorcycle is actual pic of the one I own
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    my work installs alot of leathers and sunroofs in the new G8's
    they are really sweet cars

    well as long its the G8 GT

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    What it comes down to, is you like German cars, the styling and telling people you own a bmw. It's about the girl and prestige factor. People just won't spend the money on an American car. I like euro cars too, but they aren't better engineered, cheeper to maintain, and they don't last longer...if anything they're expensive as crap to own.

    When you say better technology? can you be more specific?

    When you have twice the money to spend on interior and refinements, it should look like an expensive car bottom line. Has nothing to do with engineering.

    Or maybe you think a VW bettle is a prime example of engineering masterpiece.
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    better technology - better computers, better interface, better features, better niceties basically. now maybe pontiac has copied every thing from them NOW, but bmw has had idrive, satnavs, dynamic cruise control, even the turning headlights for years. the VERY FIRST navigation system was in a mercedes s class. things like heated seats, better climate control, probably better sound quality all separate a bmw (or most german cars) from an american one, even if they perform the same on a test track. i wouldn't be surprised if leather seats were only an option on the pontiac, which would put that 27k into the 30s, same with dvd nav, probably better speakers, and who knows what other amenities that make the pontiac seem much cheaper at a glance. all of that is almost a given in any beamer out there now. the last time they put cloth seats in a car was in the 318ti's from the early 90s

    america tries to make expensive sports cars, look at the corvette, the viper, and the ford gt (3 different price ranges represented right there) and besides pure power, they have not much going for them. i know i would take a gt3 over a viper, an older lambo over a ford gt (and please don't say lambo is italian anymore....) the only american sports car i would CHOOSE is a zr1 corvette.

    of course bmw will be more prestigious, but i didn't make it that way. that just means that people decades ago see the same things i do that put bmw in a different class from most american cars. all of this is without even mentioning that bmw isn't trying to make a racecar (although they do that quite well too, see williams f1 and the f1 mclaren street car) while pontiac isn't bragging about their comfortable seats or nice HUDs, just about their engine output.

    lastly, since this is seeming long, they use the 535 in the tests, but then compare the price to a 550, which is going to be 5-10k MORE than a 535.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    better technology - better computers, better interface, better features, better niceties basically. now maybe pontiac has copied every thing from them NOW, but bmw has had idrive, satnavs, dynamic cruise control, even the turning headlights for years. the VERY FIRST navigation system was in a mercedes s class. things like heated seats, better climate control, probably better sound quality all separate a bmw (or most german cars) from an american one, even if they perform the same on a test track. i wouldn't be surprised if leather seats were only an option on the pontiac, which would put that 27k into the 30s, same with dvd nav, probably better speakers, and who knows what other amenities that make the pontiac seem much cheaper at a glance. all of that is almost a given in any beamer out there now. the last time they put cloth seats in a car was in the 318ti's from the early 90s

    america tries to make expensive sports cars, look at the corvette, the viper, and the ford gt (3 different price ranges represented right there) and besides pure power, they have not much going for them. i know i would take a gt3 over a viper, an older lambo over a ford gt (and please don't say lambo is italian anymore....) the only american sports car i would CHOOSE is a zr1 corvette.

    of course bmw will be more prestigious, but i didn't make it that way. that just means that people decades ago see the same things i do that put bmw in a different class from most american cars. all of this is without even mentioning that bmw isn't trying to make a racecar (although they do that quite well too, see williams f1 and the f1 mclaren street car) while pontiac isn't bragging about their comfortable seats or nice HUDs, just about their engine output.

    lastly, since this is seeming long, they use the 535 in the tests, but then compare the price to a 550, which is going to be 5-10k MORE than a 535.
    I-drive is a peice of shit
    all the things you listed are gadgets that cost money and drive up the cost
    c-mon turning headlights...wtf is the point of that? one more thing to break
    better speakers?
    are you talking about a better car or a better option package?

    Lastly they are two different articles from two different publications...one is talking about the handeling of the lighter car with the smaller engine...the other is about the performace numbers of the 550...notice how I listed the mag after the quotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I-drive is a peice of shit
    all the things you listed are gadgets that cost money and drive up the cost
    c-mon turning headlights...wtf is the point of that? one more thing to break
    better speakers?
    are you talking about a better car or a better option package?

    Lastly they are two different articles from two different publications...one is talking about the handeling of the lighter car with the smaller engine...the other is about the performace numbers of the 550...notice how I listed the mag after the quotes.
    whats wrong with idrive? if you learn to use it its very easy, and GREATLY reduces the clutter that i will admit, was a little annoying in the older ones. turning headlights might just be a novelty, but it shows the technology they utilize over other companies. a lot of other automakers have started implementing them too, lexus and acura for a couple.

    if you compared stock bmw vs a stock pontiac, NO OPTIONS, tell me you would think the pontiac is a nicer car. then same for fully loaded. cloth seats? who puts them in a car that is supposed to compete with a luxury car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    whats wrong with idrive? if you learn to use it its very easy, and GREATLY reduces the clutter that i will admit, was a little annoying in the older ones. turning headlights might just be a novelty, but it shows the technology they utilize over other companies. a lot of other automakers have started implementing them too, lexus and acura for a couple.

    if you compared stock bmw vs a stock pontiac, NO OPTIONS, tell me you would think the pontiac is a nicer car. then same for fully loaded. cloth seats? who puts them in a car that is supposed to compete with a luxury car?
    GXP comes with all the options including leather under 40k
    and has a slightly de-tuned vette engine
    performs almost on par with M-5 and outperforms previous gen m-5 (90k)

    A little motor to turn the headlight isn't going to impress me, who needs it? Some euro spec lenses (illigal in the states, but who's gonna check) will give you wider vision at a much cheaper price. Old (1980-s) american sports cars had motors to lift the headlights and be more aero-dynamic in the daytime. Cadilac put night vision as an option for awhile. Options mean money, money consumers won't pay in an American car.

    My point is you aren't talking about engineering...it's about public perceptions, prestige and coming in at a price point people will pay.

    BMW makes a nice car don't get me wrong, but you pay for every option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    GXP comes with all the options including leather under 40k
    and has a slightly de-tuned vette engine
    performs almost on par with M-5 and outperforms previous gen m-5 (90k)

    A little motor to turn the headlight isn't going to impress me, who needs it? Some euro spec lenses (illigal in the states, but who's gonna check) will give you wider vision at a much cheaper price. Old (1980-s) american sports cars had motors to lift the headlights and be more aero-dynamic in the daytime. Cadilac put night vision as an option for awhile. Options mean money, money consumers won't pay in an American car.

    My point is you aren't talking about engineering...it's about public perceptions, prestige and coming in at a price point people will pay.

    BMW makes a nice car don't get me wrong, but you pay for every option.
    agreed mostly, but i do think they have better engineering. what size engine is in the g8? i'm guessing a 4. something v8, which is being tested against a 3.5v6. i HIGHLY doubt the new m5 would even be close to it. 5L 500hp in m mode, i would think it would run away with ease. as far as actual engineering, i find it impressive that they can get 500hp from a 5l n.a. when most american cars go for huge displacement to make comparable power outputs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    one more thing to break
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    such a true statement......i noticed this on my mom's new Edge....goddamn there are so many little trinkets that can break

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I-drive is a peice of shit
    all the things you listed are gadgets that cost money and drive up the cost
    c-mon turning headlights...wtf is the point of that? one more thing to break
    better speakers?
    are you talking about a better car or a better option package?

    Lastly they are two different articles from two different publications...one is talking about the handeling of the lighter car with the smaller engine...the other is about the performace numbers of the 550...notice how I listed the mag after the quotes.
    I am a BMW technician so I like to hate on BMW a lot, but even when I first started I found iDrive to be pretty self explanitory and straight forward. The new iDrive in the '09 models is even easier, and looks awesome!

    The turning headlights are more useful than you'd think. The point is to light the road ahead, and if you're rounding a corner there is obviously no need to have the path straight in front of you illuminated.

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    Audi rs4.......

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    2004 audi a4 mines black though

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    Now dont forget the audi rs6 around 600 hp which can beat the bmw i have always been a audi fan

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    i was too until that car..

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    Quote Originally Posted by srebrenica View Post
    Now dont forget the audi rs6 around 600 hp which can beat the bmw i have always been a audi fan
    Not avail in US from what I understand
    and in Germany, the price starts at roughly $126,000
    but I'm sure it can launch like a bastard with the awd

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    what was the problem with car

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    turbo.. both head units bad.. tech service sucked. poor customer service.. realy expected more from audi.. still think they look good..

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    thats why i like the audi they have one of the best awd systems in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by srebrenica View Post
    thats why i like the audi they have one of the best awd systems in the world
    They don't make their own AWD system, Haldex makes it for them.

    BMW's XDrive system is better imo. 100% of the torque can be sent to one wheel if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mho View Post
    They don't make their own AWD system, Haldex makes it for them.

    BMW's XDrive system is better imo. 100% of the torque can be sent to one wheel if need be.
    from personal experience, the differences aren't that big
    if you've got 3 wheels slipping 100%, you aren't exactly going to rocket off the line anyway.

    BTW, you fix bmw's...my buddy's 330xi lost reverse this week (automatic). Only 35k miles on it...What's up with that, apparently it's a common problem with them. Any idea how much to fix?
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    have a stang that would kill that amg.. mine cost 15,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmustang View Post
    have a stang that would kill that amg.. mine cost 15,000
    Really, care to post some numbers???

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