1st cycle: test cyp @ 500mg/wk - 12 weeks!

[Trying-Hard]

Great Job...Well done

Thanks man.

Just got back from doing a chest/tris workout. Strength is still up and going strong. Got 250 on incline bench for 10 and then 275 on flat for 7 after being dead tired.

When does someone typically lose some of their gains? During PCT? After PCT? If after PCT, how long after?

[Trying-Hard]

Starting morning weight: 180.0
End of week 1: 180.6
End of week 2: 184.0
End of week 3: 187.2
End of week 4: 186.4
End of week 5: 187.4
End of week 6: 187.2
End of week 7: 189.4
End of week 8: 191.8
End of week 9: 192.4
End of week 10: 194.6
End of week 11: 196.0
End of week 12: 196.6 End of cycle
End of week 13: 198.0
End of week 14: 198.4
End of week 15: 197.8

Today is day 11 of PCT and I am just tired!! I am still eating just as much as I was when I was on cycle, but my workouts are suffering a little because I feel so lethargic. Just got to tough through it....

[Trying-Hard]

JUst got back from a chest workout and even though I said I was going to stick with 275, my ego got the best of me and I did 315 again. 5 clean reps again but this time I didn't try for 6 as there was some miscommunication with my spotter. Anyway, it's good to see the strength is still up.

Libido is way down and has been for the past week or so. I am ok with that as long as I don't lose a lot of weight / strength.

[Trying-Hard]

Day 14 PCT:

Lethargy is still kicking in strong and my body weight is shedding off faster now than ever..=(

I will report my weight on Saturday morning. I hope the weight loss stops sooner than later. I can only eat so much...

[Trying-Hard]

Day 17 PCT:

Had sex with the wife this afternoon and all is well. Shot a monster load and felt good, lol.

Strength is still up, and I will report official weight tomorrow morning.

So far, the experience has been right on expectations. Still very much looking forward to cycle #2 in 3-4 mths. =)

[Trying-Hard]

Starting morning weight: 180.0
End of week 1: 180.6
End of week 2: 184.0
End of week 3: 187.2
End of week 4: 186.4
End of week 5: 187.4
End of week 6: 187.2
End of week 7: 189.4
End of week 8: 191.8
End of week 9: 192.4
End of week 10: 194.6
End of week 11: 196.0
End of week 12: 196.6 End of cycle
End of week 13: 198.0
End of week 14: 198.4
End of week 15: 197.8
End of week 16: 196.0...yikes!

I am not sure when the weight loss is going to stop, but I sure hope it is sooner than later. I know I am making a bigger deal about it than needs to be, but damn it I want it all..haha.

We shall see what happens next week. =)

[Trying-Hard]

Day 20 PCT:

Dropping weight like a fly...UGH! 194.2 morning weight.

I am still eating like I should, so not sure if it is my PCT that is lacking or what? I am following Austin's protocol of 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20. I am actually going to extend it to 5 weeks instead of 4.

[zeeibi]

following this, similar to my cycle

[MickeyKnox]

Reduce the volume in the gym but keep up the intensity. In and out in under 40 mins! Remember to eat for you new muscle! Eat more!

[Trying-Hard]

Reduce the volume in the gym but keep up the intensity. In and out in under 40 mins! Remember to eat for you new muscle! Eat more!

Yup, will do that from now on. Getting in and out in 40 mins will be tough, but with less sets/reps I should be able to do it. Thanks!

[Trying-Hard]

Freaking nausea man....UGH!

PCT really sucks!!

[mbreti]

Great log man, just read it all, some great info on here!

Hope you manage to keep your gains! Good luck.

[ANIMAL]

I'm trying to stay out of your thread because I'm starting PCT today and I don't want to go into it thinking anything but positive thoughts lol. But just wanted to say keep pushing and eating. Try not to think so much about the weight on the scale. Watching Kai Greene's videos (such as overkill) on youtube puts me in a different mental state and I prepare myself for every lift now going into PCT. It's all in your mind, don't let it get the best of you.

[Trying-Hard]

I'm trying to stay out of your thread because I'm starting PCT today and I don't want to go into it thinking anything but positive thoughts lol. But just wanted to say keep pushing and eating. Try not to think so much about the weight on the scale. Watching Kai Greene's videos (such as overkill) on youtube puts me in a different mental state and I prepare myself for every lift now going into PCT. It's all in your mind, don't let it get the best of you.

Thanks bro, appreciate it.

What sucks though is that reality is reality, and reality is i am losing weight everyday..=(

193.8 lbs this morning, and I ate 3800 calories yesterday. Fuuuuuck. But, I am not gonna give up. I hope the weight loss can stop at 190 morning weight that way I at least gained 10 lbs total on cycle.

I will be sure to keep this thread updated, and good luck with your PCT. Keep us posted.

[ANIMAL]

How's your sex drive?

[MickeyKnox]

Freaking nausea man....UGH!

PCT really sucks!!

Take your PCT at night before bed bro. You wont feel as nauseous.

[Trying-Hard]

How's your sex drive?

Sex drive isnt't all that bad, actually. I am still in the mood here and there. I mean it's not anywhere NEAR as high as it was when I was on, but surprisingly it is not all that bad. It is just the weight loss that has really boggled my mind. I am gonna wait until the end of PCT and a month or two after to decide if it is worth it to ever go on again. If I lose most of it or even close to most of it, then the answer will be no. I will be sure to keep this thread updated.

Take your PCT at night before bed bro. You wont feel as nauseous.

Exactly what I did starting tonight. =)

[lovex]

Sex drive isnt't all that bad, actually. I am still in the mood here and there. I mean it's not anywhere NEAR as high as it was when I was on, but surprisingly it is not all that bad. It is just the weight loss that has really boggled my mind. I am gonna wait until the end of PCT and a month or two after to decide if it is worth it to ever go on again. If I lose most of it or even close to most of it, then the answer will be no. I will be sure to keep this thread updated.

Since your Sex drive is not bad...so don't worry
Be positive ...think positive...
Good luck

[canadianbrah]

Good read and very informative. Good luck with keeping the weight on!

[Trying-Hard]

Took the Clomid/Nolva before bed last night and NO nausea today.

I highly recommend taking PCT at night. Nausea SUCKS! Thanks for the tip, Mickey.

Oh, and I haven't stepped on the scale, I am too scared, lol. I will Saturday and report.

[Trying-Hard]

Starting morning weight: 180.0
End of week 1: 180.6
End of week 2: 184.0
End of week 3: 187.2
End of week 4: 186.4
End of week 5: 187.4
End of week 6: 187.2
End of week 7: 189.4
End of week 8: 191.8
End of week 9: 192.4
End of week 10: 194.6
End of week 11: 196.0
End of week 12: 196.6 End of cycle
End of week 13: 198.0
End of week 14: 198.4
End of week 15: 197.8
End of week 16: 196.0
End of week 17: 194.6

Today is day 25 of pct - AND THERE IS GOOD NEWS.

The good news is that this is roughly the same weight I was on day 20 of PCT, and I did not lose any more weight. My sex drive has also came on strong the last few days and I noticed my fellas are a lot more full. I am not sure if this is psychological or not.

So, does this mean that this is my final weight? I sure hope so. That would mean I kept 14 out of 20 lbs. I'd be happy with that. Looking forward to seeing how the PCT unfolds as it comes near completion.

I also noticed that I only have Clomid treatment for 4 weeks. Can I run 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20/20? Basically just an extra week of Nolva alone.

[Trying-Hard]

Day 28 PCT:

Weight is holding steady at 194 in the morning.

I have also consolidated my muscle group workouts and instead of doing 5 days/wk, I am going to do 4 days/wk. I am finding out that my body likes more rest during PCT, hence the change.

I am certainly not as strong, but stronger than before I started, but not by much - unfortunately.

[Trying-Hard]

Day 30 PCT:

Had a back and bi workout last night and it went well. Strength is not up ike it used to be but certianly stronger than when I started.

Weight is still a steady 194. (was 194.6 this morning)

Only sides I am experiencing now is extreme fatigue. I've also injured my shoulder and trying to deal with that. Makes it difficult to train chest or shoulders..=(

[Trying-Hard]

LAST UPDATE

Starting morning weight: 180.0
End of week 1: 180.6
End of week 2: 184.0
End of week 3: 187.2
End of week 4: 186.4
End of week 5: 187.4
End of week 6: 187.2
End of week 7: 189.4
End of week 8: 191.8
End of week 9: 192.4
End of week 10: 194.6
End of week 11: 196.0
End of week 12: 196.6 End of cycle
End of week 13: 198.0
End of week 14: 198.4
End of week 15: 197.8
End of week 16: 196.0
End of week 17: 194.6
End of week 18: 194.6

Today marks Day 32 of PCT and I am virtually done with PCT. I may continue with the Nolva for an extra week since I have some left over.

My feelings about cycling are mixed.

The pros:
The strength gains and motivation throughout cycle were sublime. The noticeable size increase from week to week were eye opening. The appetite was always through the roof. The end result of putting on 15 pounds of muscle is exponentially satisfying!!

The cons:
PCT sucks ass, period! From the fatigue, to the mental downward spiral of losing weight from day to day, to the strength loss, to the loss of relative libido from when I was on....it all made me feel like complete utter crap! Although, I must say that not the entire PCT was like that, just about 7 days of it.

Will I cycle again? Most likely, yes! Because at the end of the day, to me, the pros outweigh the cons.

Thank you everyone that helped and participated in my thread. Your support and knowledge was greatly appreciated. Till next time.....

[MickeyKnox]

Sounds like a success to me!

15lbs of mucsle is nothing to snub your nose at. It would take the average guy 1 year to put that on. Im glad your experience was mostly positive.

Next cycle will be even better!

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

Sounds like a success to me!

15lbs of mucsle is nothing to snub your nose at. It would take the average guy 1 year to put that on. Im glad your experience was mostly positive.

Next cycle will be even better!

There is no way a natty who's Intermidiate or advanced can gain that amount of muscle even in a year!!! Except for newbs...