HCG - How important is it?

[Swifto]

if you run HCG throughout at a moderate dose on a cycle of all fast acting esters should you continue use 2 weeks after cycle as well or discontinue the use

Discontinue.

[bboynoir]

swifto can u help me with my question?its just some posts above!

[bboynoir]

oh...man i'm a little diasapointed..can't i just do something else instead of using test ?I only want to use 1 steroid and thats deca..

[MotoLifter]

oh...man i'm a little diasapointed..can't i just do something else instead of using test ?I only want to use 1 steroid and thats deca..

then do what you want. 50 people have said dont do it andhave listed 100 reasons why not to and you refuse to listen. So go ahead and do it and have fun.


Moto

[O_TownKID613]

man u always need test bro for ne thing as ur base if u wanna use another type of steroid or u will shut down around 3 weeks after and feel like shit believe me when i was younger and didnt know shit about ne thing i took winny all alone for 5 weeeks biggest mistake of my life lol lost everything i gained got depressed and went looking worse than i did before my cycle

[Madmax209]

It's better to use AI (preferably which one) or nolvadex, while using HCG throughout the cycle? What I read, nolvadex is often suggested to use with HCG (helps stop HCG from de-sensitizing testicles to natural LH). Do AI provide same effect? Do you recommend higher dose of HCG when on cycle with higher dose of test (about 3g weekly) or keep the dose same (250iu)? Thanks

[Swifto]

It's better to use AI (preferably which one) or nolvadex, while using HCG throughout the cycle? What I read, nolvadex is often suggested to use with HCG (helps stop HCG from de-sensitizing testicles to natural LH). Do AI provide same effect? Do you recommend higher dose of HCG when on cycle with higher dose of test (about 3g weekly) or keep the dose same (250iu)? Thanks

You need to experiement and see what works for you. I can get away with 250ius 2x week from starting week 1-3 and ending 1-2 weeks away from PCT. I your going to be starting HCG IN the cycle not throughout a larger doses will be required.

I use Aromasin 10mg/ED or EOD (depending on Test dose) during the cycle.

[mg1228]

quick question before i mix---using a slin pin---got 5000iu vial--do i mix 100 units af ba water to get 500iu per 10units?

i know u covered this in op--but the 1ml thing threw me off---thats 1 cc right?

[Swifto]

quick question before i mix---using a slin pin---got 5000iu vial--do i mix 100 units af ba water to get 500iu per 10units?

i know u covered this in op--but the 1ml thing threw me off---thats 1 cc right?

1 CC = 1 ML

5000ius mixed with 10ml bac water is 500ius/ml.

[mg1228]

So 100 units of ba water in a slin pin mixed with 5000 iu vial of hcg aint 500 ius per 10 units?

I need to use a regular syringe and mix 10 cc--correct?

How many ius would I have been taking if I mixed it with 100 units ba water per 10 units?

[Kibble]

10 units would be a microscopic injection lol.

Swifto put it in the easiest mathematical solution possible- I like that.

I say to just mix 5-10ml of bac water with 5,000ius of hCG. It can't get any easier than that. I am making a new batch today when I get home

[mg1228]

it wouldnt b microscopic if u mixed 100units to a 5000iu vial----- i wanted to know how many iu per 10 units if a 5000 iu vial was mixed with 100 units of ba water---thanks anyway big kuntry

[DS21]

Great post! I always learn so much from your post, thanks!

[Kibble]

It would be 1/10 of a cc for 500iu of hCG

[mg1228]

It would be 1/10 of a cc for 500iu of hCG

wouldnt that b 10 units on a slin pin?----100 units=1cc

thats the way i did it on my last cycle---i mixed 100 units to a 5000iu vial of hcg---then i took 10 units---which i thought wouldve been 500iu

am i wrong---or am i missing something

[Kibble]

wouldnt that b 10 units on a slin pin?----100 units=1cc

thats the way i did it on my last cycle---i mixed 100 units to a 5000iu vial of hcg---then i took 10 units---which i thought wouldve been 500iu

am i wrong---or am i missing something

You are right

[AlphaGenetics]

Since Im very gyno prone would I need to run more ai during my cycle if I used hcg throughout? Would this inhibit gains even more for me?

[mg1228]

so u guys are pinnin 1 cc of hcg sub q with a slin pin?

[Kibble]

I pin 1/4cc (2.5 mark) on the insulin pin for 250iu

[americanoak]

so say you order 5000IU of HCG, you would mix the HCG with the 10ml of bac water all at once and then every time you need to use it you take it from the same 10ml bottle? Or everytime you want to take it you have to mix the hcg with the water and then take t?

[mg1228]

mix it all at once--i take it when u need it---should last about 30 days in the fridge

[americanoak]

Ok, that is what i thought.
Thanks Mg.

[mg1228]

so there is nothing wrong with the way i do it? 100 units ba water mixed with 5000 iu vial---to get 500 iu per 10 units

[Swifto]

so there is nothing wrong with the way i do it? 100 units ba water mixed with 5000 iu vial---to get 500 iu per 10 units

I dont have a Slin pin near me, but mine hold a maximum of 1ML. Which I think is 100units. Forget about the units on the Slin pin, thats confusing you...

HCG 5000ius mixed with 10ML = 500ius per ML.

That means the entire Slin pin filled is 500ius. Just remember Slin pins hold a maximim of 1ML and go from there. Half full is 250ius of HCG.

[mg1228]

the other way ur just pinnin more ba water than necessary, right?

[mg1228]

that just seems like alot of fluid to inject subq--i get a little lump ingecting 2ius of gh

[Swifto]

that just seems like alot of fluid to inject subq--i get a little lump ingecting 2ius of gh

Then mix it 1ML = 1000ius. It doesnt really matter.

I just injected 1ML (650ius HCG) Sub-Q. Its not that bad.

You can inject it IM too and mix it with your oil based shot but they come out at different speeds, so be careful. It looks like jelly when its in the barrell. With tiny air bubbles.

I checked my Slin pins. 100 Units = 1ML.

50 Units = 0.5ML.

[skylermach10]

if im on a 12 week cycle of test p do i continue taking hcg 2-3 weeks after last injection and stop the day before pct starts? so a total of 14-15 weeks 250iu 2xwk?

[carbo]

if im on a 12 week cycle of test p do i continue taking hcg 2-3 weeks after last injection and stop the day before pct starts? so a total of 14-15 weeks 250iu 2xwk?

I'm gonna make it real simple for you player, you take your last shot of HCG with the Test P and then start your PCT 4 DAYS later.

[Kibble]

It is not that much fluid. I did it for my entire first batch, just for the learning experience. It really isn't that much

[mg1228]

thanks guys---just let me make sure

is my math right--1cc mixed to 5000iu= 500iu per 10 units on a slin pin

i just dont want to b injecting too much

[Swifto]

thanks guys---just let me make sure

is my math right--1cc mixed to 5000iu= 500iu per 10 units on a slin pin

i just dont want to b injecting too much

500ius = 100 units on a Slin pin.

10 units is a small amount. 50ui's of HCG.

[Kibble]

Just do 10ml bac water lol. Don't worry about the excess bac water as of now. Just go with the guidlined mixture on this thread, until you get the feel for the entire process.... mixing to injecting to storage

[mg1228]

i will do that----that being said this is really bothering me

one more time---a slin pin is 100 units-correct
1.mix 100 units ba water with a 5000 iu vial of hcg
2.u would have 5000iu of hcg in a 100 unit slin pin
3.1/10 of 100units would b 10 units on a slin pin
4.1/10=10 units
5.10 units=500iu hcg

i know u guys are like "i wish this guy would shut the fuk up" but please tell me this is correct so i can sleep tonight

the reason i want to know is---i took 10000 iu of hcg this way on my last pct and suffered from bad acne

[Swifto]

i will do that----that being said this is really bothering me

one more time---a slin pin is 100 units-correct
1.mix 100 units ba water with a 5000 iu vial of hcg
2.u would have 5000iu of hcg in a 100 unit slin pin
3.1/10 of 100units would b 10 units on a slin pin
4.1/10=10 units
5.10 units=500iu hcg

i know u guys are like "i wish this guy would shut the fuk up" but please tell me this is correct so i can sleep tonight

Ha ha ha...

Last time pal...

A regular 29G Slin pin holds 1ML, which reads "1oo Units" on the barrell.

You need to get a 10 or 20ML empty vial.

Then mix 10ML's of bac water, with 5000ius powdered HCG.

Now, 100units on the Slin pin = 1ML (still the same).

100units (1ML) on the Slin pin = 500ius of HCG

50 units on the Slin pin = 250ius of HCG

It doesnt get more simple than that mate.

I'm done.

[Kibble]

i will do that----that being said this is really bothering me

one more time---a slin pin is 100 units-correct
1.mix 100 units ba water with a 5000 iu vial of hcg
2.u would have 5000iu of hcg in a 100 unit slin pin
3.1/10 of 100units would b 10 units on a slin pin
4.1/10=10 units
5.10 units=500iu hcg

i know u guys are like "i wish this guy would shut the fuk up" but please tell me this is correct so i can sleep tonight

the reason i want to know is---i took 10000 iu of hcg this way on my last pct and suffered from bad acne

Your math is correct, but you are discecting this like a chemist. You are trying to reinvent the wheel. Don't be complicated. Just keep it simple your first time around. Swifto gave you everything you need to know for a successful hCG mixture

[mg1228]

i know he did--and i understand 100%---i was just trying to figure out how much i was taking before, mixing it like i was---did i not get that across---thought i did

[OldManRiver]

Ok ok

[Hunter.S]

going to get my hands on some HCG asap!!

[panntastic]

I am running a 15 week eq sust cycle when do you recommend starting hcg can I run low dosage throughout due to estrogen build up or should I do larger amounts towards pct?