TheTaxMan's Anadrol / Test E / Tren E log

[TheTaxMan]

Good point MR bb

I think she would be fine when over looked and perscribed by a doctor, but me taking oils and pills off the internet and a none perscribed dose you can see where her worry comes from

Had a doctor handed me 200mg test per week and told her to stop being silly she would be fine with that

I dont know where i read but i heard people on TRT are infertile? Im sure the last time i got bloods my doctor told me this too, she said atleast you have 1 son because its likely you will be infertile on TRT

[krugerr]

Good point MR bb

I think she would be fine when over looked and perscribed by a doctor, but me taking oils and pills off the internet and a none perscribed dose you can see where her worry comes from

Had a doctor handed me 200mg test per week and told her to stop being silly she would be fine with that

I dont know where i read but i heard people on TRT are infertile? Im sure the last time i got bloods my doctor told me this too, she said atleast you have 1 son because its likely you will be infertile on TRT

Nonsense.

I was "on" for over 2 years when we conceived.
Due to the nature of it shutting down natural production there is some reduction in sperm count, but not a zero count.

[InternalFire]

well Tax, once your balls go down to peanut size Im pretty sure one should be 99% infertile for time being. Folks go on cycle and cruise for a some time while most times on HCG and balls dont get full shutdown hence having potency making woman pregno. I discontinued my hcg a while ago and only now observing minimal atrophy, still considerable big size balls but WTF were they doing pumping 380 test... when one on TRT w/o HCG for long time so it lets gonads atrophy - that I think is considered sterile/infertile at a high % rate.

[InternalFire]

Nonsense.

I was "on" for over 2 years when we conceived.
Due to the nature of it shutting down natural production there is some reduction in sperm count, but not a zero count.

interesting, I know youve been on nebido, which somehow affects gonads differently, correct me if Im wrong, recall your balls size when conceived?

[krugerr]

well Tax, once your balls go down to peanut size Im pretty sure one should be 99% infertile for time being. Folks go on cycle and cruise for a some time while most times on HCG and balls dont get full shutdown hence having potency making woman pregno. I discontinued my hcg a while ago and only now observing minimal atrophy, still considerable big size balls but WTF were they doing pumping 380 test... when one on TRT w/o HCG for long time so it lets gonads atrophy - that I think is considered sterile/infertile at a high % rate.

I was diagnosed with LowT in 2012. After that I decided I didnt want to go down the TRT just yet, so I did a blast/cruise from 2013-2015 thereabouts. Using some heavy doses and no HCG. I did suffer testicular atrophy at the beginning, and my nuts were like acorns. Still, managed to conceive without any difficulty.

interesting, I know youve been on nebido, which somehow affects gonads differently, correct me if Im wrong, recall your balls size when conceived?

At the time I wasnt on Nebido at the time, just Blasting/Cruising. They were tiny.

[krugerr]

Maybe we were just lucky. I didnt undergo a sperm count.

However that is a path you can look at Tax if you dont want to come off.
Go get a sperm count done, they'll not only tell you if your potent, but if they're in good health too.

[Mr.BB]

Had a doctor handed me 200mg test per week and told her to stop being silly she would be fine with that

In the UK they will put you in nebido, not that difficult to get it actually.

[krugerr]

In the UK they will put you in nebido, not that difficult to get it actually.

Mr.BB speaks true... getting your hormones to normal is a different matter however.

[-Ender-]

well Tax, once your balls go down to peanut size Im pretty sure one should be 99% infertile for time being. Folks go on cycle and cruise for a some time while most times on HCG and balls dont get full shutdown hence having potency making woman pregno. I discontinued my hcg a while ago and only now observing minimal atrophy, still considerable big size balls but WTF were they doing pumping 380 test... when one on TRT w/o HCG for long time so it lets gonads atrophy - that I think is considered sterile/infertile at a high % rate.

Be well advised: I have a set of twins at home that debunk your infertility theory.

[InternalFire]

Be well advised: I have a set of twins at home that debunk your infertility theory.

All that was and is - just a theory, I stand corrected

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[TheTaxMan]

My balls are still the same size as last year, and sorry for the too much info but the loads are pretty good too lol, probably more fluids than actualy sperm cells but not noticed any difference in myself in that respect

The nebido is the cream isnt it? You had that right krugerr? Im sure you said it was crap?

For a sperm count/fertility test can i just request my GP to do one? And would they not ask why? Do i need to say we have been trying and nothings happened for example?

Thanks for the replies guys

[krugerr]

My balls are still the same size as last year, and sorry for the too much info but the loads are pretty good too lol, probably more fluids than actualy sperm cells but not noticed any difference in myself in that respect The nebido is the cream isnt it? You had that right krugerr? Im sure you said it was crap? For a sperm count/fertility test can i just request my GP to do one? And would they not ask why? Do i need to say we have been trying and nothings happened for example? Thanks for the replies guys

Testogel was the gel. This was crap. I've been on Nebido since March.

You can just say you and wife are looking to conceive but you're worried about sperm count because you've been trying a while. Dr shouldn't ask any questions.

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[Mr.BB]

Testogel was the gel. This was crap. I've been on Nebido since March.

You can just say you and wife are looking to conceive but you're worried about sperm count because you've been trying a while. Dr shouldn't ask any questions.

Not sure if its a good timing to ask for it.

Very, very likely, it will come out low, and if doctor follows up with diagnostic pulling things like LH,FSH, test, etc dont think Tax is ready for it...

[krugerr]

Not sure if its a good timing to ask for it. Very, very likely, it will come out low, and if doctor follows up with diagnostic pulling things like LH,FSH, test, etc dont think Tax is ready for it...

Possible, but you can just cancel the follow up bloodwork. If he has some swimmers and they're normal, he can use that with the wife without coming off. Anyway, was just a thought Tax. I've not been down that route myself. Mr.BB could have a point. Any follow up stuff will have possible knock on effects.

[TheTaxMan]

Thanks for the replies again fellas

Kruger, sorry i forgot nebiedo was the injection, what is it cyp?
how did you get off the gel? Was it the bloodwork? Or did you just keep telling your doc that it wasnt working and eventualy they gave you the injection? Its annoying they just look at numbers off a chart and assume your sorted? Did your numbers add up to the average man or were they low and gave you the oil? Or did you just play on it that it wasnt working? Or was it genuinly not working?

We arent thinking of trying yet, probably in a year, maybe 2 years when our 2 year old boy will be 3-4 and off to school

But i have to think a head, do i keep blasting and cruising and see what happens/hope for the best of my blast/cruise and fertility or just come off and do an aggressive PCT and get bloods and see if im TRT or not? I kind of know thats the best solution but im frightened to lose gains and hit the hormone rollercoaster.

Years ago (approx 8) i always cycled and pct, and it was up and down up and down mentaly and physicaly, this full year of a blast and cruise (although theres been many negatives, you who know me on here know ive slacked on diet and those times where ive boozed too much to aid my stress, but that a side, blasting and cruising is so much stabalised and the gains, strength and mental mood dont just drop like ylu have jumped out of a plane)

Im weighing up 2 experiences of steroids here and i felt the blast and cruise although should have been better, was definatley personaly more preferred to the normal cycling.

No real big loss of strength, sex drive etc, felt great and full all the way through, probably too great at times, get cocky etc at home

When cycling i notice weakness and fatigue, loss of sex drive, possible depression and lack of motiviation, kind of kills the cycle and made it almost pointless, i mean i did gain some permanent size (however during these cycles i never ran an Ai so maybe thats why it was so up and down)

Hmmmm i feel stuck at the minute and need a plan to stick to!

[TheTaxMan]

Please refresh if you were reading that as i edited some bits

[krugerr]

Please refresh if you were reading that as i edited some bits

There's a lot of it covered in my log mate. I'll reply fully when I get to a PC. I'll PM you as well later.

-Kruger

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[TheTaxMan]

Cheers Kruger

Id appreciate that, no disrespect but it would take some amount of reading your full log, its quite a few pages, i just dont have a lot of reading time at the min so some short answers fired my would be grand!

[krugerr]

Cheers Kruger Id appreciate that, no disrespect but it would take some amount of reading your full log, its quite a few pages, i just dont have a lot of reading time at the min so some short answers fired my would be grand!

Haha touché. If you are interested though in TRT (Nebido) there is a lot of information on there. Mainly from other members I must admit!

I'll fire you a full PM from a laptop.

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[Mr.BB]

My balls are still the same size as last year, and sorry for the too much info but the loads are pretty good too lol, probably more fluids than actualy sperm cells but not noticed any difference in myself in that respect

The nebido is the cream isnt it? You had that right krugerr? Im sure you said it was crap?

For a sperm count/fertility test can i just request my GP to do one? And would they not ask why? Do i need to say we have been trying and nothings happened for example?

Thanks for the replies guys

Ball size means nothing.

Nebido is 1G testosterone undecanoate in 4ml, taken one each 10-12 weeks. Krug has problems with it, he's not into the 95% population , it works for most. I have been cycling with nebido as base and i'm happy with it, lot less hassle with e2, water retention, sides, etc

[InternalFire]

How's things?
How's Tax cycle going?

Holding well, feeling good?

[TheTaxMan]

Ive held the cycle off until i get my bodyfat percent down a little more, im looking to recomp if not cut

So id like to try and lose a bit chub before hitting the gear so i can get the most out of my cycle

Im just on my cruise dose at the min