TESTOSTERONE SUSPENSION Cycle (+ PROP, EQ, ANAVAR, HGH, PROVIRON)

[BJJ]

From today I will try to ingest T4 before bed again, hoping to be able to fall asleep.

[BJJ]

Tried Somatrope for the first time but saw no much of a difference compared to Hyge.tropin, except for a strong burning feeling on the injection spot.

Awaiting wife's blood work results on that drug.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=437865

[BJJ]

Since a couple of days I started to ingest T4 before bed again and finally I was able to sleep.

[BJJ]

Day 134
hgh iu 8 / mes mg 100 / t4 mcg 100 / t3 mcg 25
Kcal: 2.898
Training: Biceps & Triceps
Sides: Sweating
Additional Drugs: Ephedrine (144 mg)
Injection Site: Umbilical (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 135
hgh iu 8 / mes mg 100 / t4 mcg 100 / t3 mcg 25
Kcal: 2.360
Training: Rest
Sides: Sweating
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 136
hgh iu 8 / mes mg 100
Kcal: 3.077
Training: Chest
Sides: Sweating
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Oblique (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 137
hgh iu 8 / mes mg 100 / t4 mcg 100
Kcal: 2.841
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Oblique (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 138
hgh iu 10 / mes mg 100 / t4 mcg 100 / exe mg 12.5
Kcal: 3.148
Training: Shoulders
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Oblique (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 139
hgh iu 9 / t4 mcg 100
Kcal: 3.200
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Oblique (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 140
hgh iu 12 / t4 mcg 150
Kcal: 2.800
Training: Biceps & Triceps
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½") - L Forearm (27g ½")
Blood Pressure: 107 SYS (mmHg), 47 DIA (mmHg), 75 BPM

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 2.905

Total Injections: 306
Lost Attempts: 15
Trapezius: 13
Deltoids: 51
Pectorals: 15
Dorsal: 8
Biceps: 4
Triceps: 27
Forearms: 3
Gluteus: 20
Quadriceps: 15
Femoral Biceps: 4
Calfs: 4
Umbilical: 54
Ribs: 12
Oblique: 61

20TH WEEK NOTES
The sweating was due from the use of T4 and not by rHGH as I thought.
On day 139, I decided to get rid of Mesterolone and save what left for my next cycle.
I did confirm that more than 50 mg all in once makes me feel tired. So, in my next cycle, either I split in three daily ingestions or I take it all before bed. Considering its half life, the first option would be more appropriate.

[BJJ]

Unfortunately, I do not sleep well at night, I thought I could deal with the T4 but I was wrong.

From tomorrow, I will try again in the early morning with the 6 am shot.

[the big 1]

BJJ - do you find that t4 is less 'catabolic' to muscle tissue than T3 ?

i know T4 converts to T3 anyway, and that you using some other things to keep you anabolic, but would you rate T4 over T3 ?

[BJJ]

BJJ - do you find that t4 is less 'catabolic' to muscle tissue than T3 ?

i know T4 converts to T3 anyway, and that you using some other things to keep you anabolic, but would you rate T4 over T3 ?

Yes absolutely, T4 over T3.
Take a look at my latest blood work, you may notice T3, in spite I was only using T4, went close to the high range value.
The conversion is the deal, especially if on rHGH.

[the big 1]

Yes absolutely, T4 over T3.
Take a look at my latest blood work, you may notice T3, in spite I was only using T4, went close to the high range value.
The conversion is the deal, especially if on rHGH.

i wouldnt know what im looking at mate

so T4 basically converts to T3 at a higher level than T3 itself ?

[BJJ]

i wouldnt know what im looking at mate

so T4 basically converts to T3 at a higher level than T3 itself ?

No, T3 itself is stronger if taken alone, even stronger if taken with T4.

But, T4 conversion is what you need the most, unless of course one is fat and needs to cut as much as possible.

In that case, one should not worry much about losing some LBM...

But for those who are already fit, why using T3? To cut bf percentage from 14 to 11?

It is a no sense to me.

[the big 1]

No, T3 itself is stronger if taken alone, even stronger if taken with T4.

But, T4 conversion is what you need the most, unless of course one is fat and needs to cut as much as possible.

In that case, one should not worry much about losing some LBM...

But for those who are already fit, why using T3? To cut bf percentage from 14 to 11?

It is a no sense to me.

I would agree, T3 eats through my muscles very fast , i dont think ile ever contemplate its usage without AAS again...

i thougth S4 might serve the same purpose as AAS with regards to catabolism from T3 but i was wrong so i stopped it...

[BJJ]

I changed brand of rHGH since three days and my ankles are swollen severely once again.

I shifted from Hyge.tropin to Hypertropin.

[BJJ]

Day 141
hgh iu 8 / t4 mcg 150
Kcal: 3.033
Training: Chest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 142
hgh iu 17 / t4 mcg 250 / t3 mcg 25
Kcal: 3.057
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Diazepam (10 mg)
Injection Site: Umbilical (27g ½") - Oblique (27g ½")

Day 143
hgh iu 5 / t4 mcg 100 / exe mg 12.5 / cab mg 0.25
Kcal: 2.500
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (30g ½")

Day 144
hgh iu 10 / t4 mcg 100
Kcal: 3.000
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (30g ½") - Oblique (30g ½")

Day 145
hgh iu 10 / t4 mcg 100 / fur mg 50
Kcal: 2.503
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (30g ½") - Oblique (30g ½")

Day 146
hgh iu 13 / t4 mcg 150 / exe mg 12.5
Kcal: 2.300
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Umbilical (30g ½") - Umbilical (30g ½") - Oblique (30g ½")

Day 147
hgh iu 10 / t4 mcg 150 / t3 mcg 25
Kcal: 2.777
Training: Rest
Sides: Nil
Additional Drugs: Nil
Injection Site: Oblique (30g ½") - Oblique (30g ½")

Daily Average KCalories Intake: 2.738

Total Injections: 320
Lost Attempts: 15
Trapezius: 13
Deltoids: 51
Pectorals: 15
Dorsal: 8
Biceps: 4
Triceps: 27
Forearms: 3
Gluteus: 20
Quadriceps: 15
Femoral Biceps: 4
Calfs: 4
Umbilical: 61
Ribs: 12
Oblique: 68

21TH WEEK NOTES
Nothing to report.

[BJJ]

From now on no more weekly updates but I am going to report when needed.

I will keep running rHGH till the end of October @ 5 iu ed shot early in the morning along with 100 mcg of T4 ingested 1 hour before bed on an empty stomach.

Diet will be around 2.800/3.000 Kcal daily with 250 g of protides (1,2 g per pound of weight).

[BJJ]

So, it has been a week since I am using Hypertropin and happened something that worried me very much, which never happened before.

Basically, since 4 days I am having strong hemicrania on the right side of my head where a naevus is located.

Yesterday, I took a nuclear magnetic resonance; if I will ever go to a neurologist I want to bring some facts with.

[BJJ]

The response from the brain NMR was negative, fortunately.

I will go for a trans-cranial doppler.

[BJJ]

I do not know but this Hypertropin I am using seems to be less strong than Hyge.tropin.

By the way, looming over the guy who sold me Somatrope, I got all my money back.
After all, I am still a black belt...

[BJJ]

The more I live the more I need to learn!!!

In the last 5 days I injected before bed, along with 100 mcg of T4, 10 iu of Hypertropin.
I woke up with a face so full of water my eyes could not be seen mostly, I looked like a Chinese, not to mention my ankles and hands; no CTS signs though.

Anyway, after 4 days of this attempt I decided to inject 5 iu always along with 100 mcg of T4 and surprisely, the day after I woke up still with lots of bloat, even though less, but my ABS were much more visible compared to when I was shooting 10 iu.

[Sidewinder1986]

Hi. I saw you did a Testosterone suspension cycle. Can you give me an advice? I want to know the detection time. I know that on the site it's written +/- 1 day. I want to know the safe number of days needed to stop before a dopping test. Or could anybody for that matter help me. Please guys. Tell me what you know.

[boyka]

Tell something about Proviron ( Mesterolone). Is effective as Anti-Estrogen? Since it blinds to aromatase enzyme...

[BJJ]

Tell something about Proviron ( Mesterolone). Is effective as Anti-Estrogen? Since it blinds to aromatase enzyme...

It was effective for me @ 100 mg ed.

Yet, I would always advice to keep an AI on hand just in case.

[BJJ]

Hi. I saw you did a Testosterone suspension cycle. Can you give me an advice? I want to know the detection time. I know that on the site it's written +/- 1 day. I want to know the safe number of days needed to stop before a dopping test. Or could anybody for that matter help me. Please guys. Tell me what you know.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=439055

[BJJ]

CYCLE CONCLUSIONS
This cycle experience led me to give value to the saying "if you want to learn something, do it the hard way".
I was compelled to use a free form of testosterone since the one used with the ethyl oleate solution, gave me persistent diarrhoea.
At that time, I was unsure whether another type of solution like arachis oil could have solved the problem and I did not want to wait a few more weeks to start over the cycle, so I opt for the suspension experience.
Now I know it is not wise to run a 11 week cycle with testosterone suspension pinning 2/3 times a day, either for the inner scares and for the difficulty to keep a correct balance of androgens during the cycle.
The muscular pain I had was very severe and in some cases I could not even walk or seat down.

So, I decided I will try a form of testosterone like propionate in my next cycle, keeping suspension only before leg work-outs and fights.

[t-dogg]

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