* * * IF (intermittent fasting) Diets - post your opinions and experience here * * *

[mockery]

I'm currently off IF atm. But I always come back. Time and place for everything.

where are you with your diet and training currently? everything is always about everyone else. What has Gbruce been up to.

[Razor]

Mock hows is IF going for you?

[mockery]

was great i only did it for 3 weeks as i needed two weeks maintance for my hormones to get use to calories from being in a -900 calorie deficit. So i could start a mini cycle.. will get back on If later, mind you i think my test is bunk and my mast is the bomb so this cycle is gonna be pointless unless i scrap my 3 bottles of test and get ones from the company i got the mast from.. but its hard to throw money around like that,

[greenwell001]

I have been doing an 16/8 IF for a pretty good while. I got from 20%bf to 14%bf pretty quick, about 3 months at maintenance with a lot of HIIT. I recently got on gear (12 wk 500mg/wk test e)and upped the cals to average 500 over maintenance, while still doing the IF. I'm pretty much.staying around same bf. I have almost completely cut out the HIIT, except for 400M repeats with some prowlers and burpees. My goal is to put on 15-20 lbs of lean gains with traditional BB training and last 4 wks of 12 wk cycle re introduce the full HIIT powerlifting schedule that I love but obviously with more power. My question is would dropping cals to maintenance the last 4 weeks compromise the gains severely. I don't know how motivated I will be to do cardio and HIIT powerlifting on PCT. This is my first cycle so I don't really know what to expect with pct.

[jojocircus03]

My trainer had me start IF back in Feb. and I have had great success at losing and maintaining the weight loss while keeping my energy levels high. I fast 14-16 hours and my eating window is always 8 hours. My meals in the past were post workout-8oz protien, 1.5 c veggies, half an avocado or a serving of almonds, and 1/2 c carbs; next meal was 6 oz protien, 1.5 cups veggies; last meal was 3 egg whites and 1.5 cups veggies or casein protien shake with unsweetened almond milk. I should mention that I am female. I am at a point where I have only maintained, but still need to lose. Recently I switched my meal style to CKD ( so basically all protiens and upping them from lean protiens to fattier) but still staying with the 16 hour fast and 8 hour eating window. My question is that my Ketone levels are much higher at the end of my 8 hour eating window then they are post workout. Does anyone know a reason for this because my trainer and I are baffled?

[Razor]

I am going to start IF but only on the weekends when I am not doing any lifting, does anyone here only do IF on the weekends and what do you eat. I was thinking of starting to just eat one huge breakfast of whatever, omelets, potatoes english muffin and a protein shake, so still relatively healthy, I wanted Saturday and Sunday mornings and fast throughout the day, if I get to hungry just a light protein shake with 1/3 cup of oats at night. Mockery what are you thoughts on this?

[mockery]

I am going to start IF but only on the weekends when I am not doing any lifting, does anyone here only do IF on the weekends and what do you eat. I was thinking of starting to just eat one huge breakfast of whatever, omelets, potatoes english muffin and a protein shake, so still relatively healthy, I wanted Saturday and Sunday mornings and fast throughout the day, if I get to hungry just a light protein shake with 1/3 cup of oats at night. Mockery what are you thoughts on this?

Best for you would be 24 hour fast. so have your Saturday morning brunch at 11am, then no food no protein, no bcaa until Sunday morning at 11. NO FOOD NO NOTHING. U might be cranky, angry and hate the world. Drink green tea and boat loads of water.

Daily fast or any fast for that matter can not have calories! none , zip zero! 16hours+ plus fast releases GH pulses that get stronger at 18 hours and best bang for your buck at 20 hours but still increase towards 24 hours.

[Razor]

Best for you would be 24 hour fast. so have your Saturday morning brunch at 11am, then no food no protein, no bcaa until Sunday morning at 11. NO FOOD NO NOTHING. U might be cranky, angry and hate the world. Drink green tea and boat loads of water.

Daily fast or any fast for that matter can not have calories! none , zip zero! 16hours+ plus fast releases GH pulses that get stronger at 18 hours and best bang for your buck at 20 hours but still increase towards 24 hours.

How do I stay anabolic and keep my muscles from going catabolic during this phase without BCAA's or protein?

[mockery]

How do I stay anabolic and keep my muscles from going catabolic during this phase without BCAA's or protein?

you wont go into a catabolic state while fasting. not if you are eating healthy the other 6 days, and are doing regular resistance training 3 times a week or more. Further more on gear you wont become catabolic, You need to stop believing this myth. u would only take bcaa if you are training but it sounds like its your off days. ? Your body has had a large amount of calories through out the week, your muscles are full of water and stored converted carbs. It takes calories to burn fat, with no calories fasting alows your body to burn fat straight up. and muscle protein break down is the last on a short list of the pecking order of what gets used for fuel first when there is no new calories.

[mockery]

you wont go into a catatonic state while fasting. not if you are eating healthy the other 6 days, and are doing regular resistance training 3 times a week or more. Further more on gear you wont become catabolic, You need to stop believing this myth. u would only take bcaa if you are training but it sounds like its your off days. ? Your body has had a large amount of calories through out the week, your muscles are full of water and stored converted carbs. It takes calories to burn fat, with no calories fasting alows your body to burn fat straight up. and muscle protein break down is the last on a short list of the pecking order of what gets used for fuel first when there is no new calories.

further more, what you think is hunger alot of times is your body asking for water, and even further further more not eating for 2 hours and thinking you are hungry isnt really hunger at all, its teh dependancy on sugar, the social aspect of eating with friends, media and marketing telling you to eat. When i cut sugar out of my diet i stopped being hungry . Hungry .. real hunger is something that would set in after LONG periods of time with no food. not OH SHIT I NEED TO EAT ITS BE 2.5 hours omfg! Its like the mythical window for PWO shake after the gym.... dude you just ate before the gym your body hasnt gone catabolic from Resistance training and light cardio after lol... sooner people come to terms with this faster they will advance their lifting ability.

[Razor]

you wont go into a catatonic state while fasting. not if you are eating healthy the other 6 days, and are doing regular resistance training 3 times a week or more. Further more on gear you wont become catabolic, You need to stop believing this myth. u would only take bcaa if you are training but it sounds like its your off days. ? Your body has had a large amount of calories through out the week, your muscles are full of water and stored converted carbs. It takes calories to burn fat, with no calories fasting alows your body to burn fat straight up. and muscle protein break down is the last on a short list of the pecking order of what gets used for fuel first when there is no new calories.

Ok great thank you for that, I feel much better about doing this already. So since I didnt make it a full day today without eating I will try again tomorrow, have a big breakfast in the AM then go a complete 24 hours without any food, protein, carbs, fats or BCAA's

Another thing, how would taking BCAA's during a fast negatively effect a fasting day? From my perspective it could only help but you are the expert on these things so I am interested to hear more about that.

[K88]

I've been on IF for about the past two weeks and honestly I think I'm about to drop it. I was very optimistic starting out and I've been doing at least a 16 hr fast but usually closer to 20 hrs since that's more convenient with my work schedule. I work 12 hr shifts of somewhat physical work and contrary to what I read I felt like I had much less energy during the day while in a fasted state. I actually feel tired and kind of weak and not very sharp mentally. Then when I get home from work and consume all my daily calories in a short time I enjoy eating the large meals but then I feel bloated and usually fall asleep pretty quickly after that and have an upset stomach into the next morning. I want to make sure I'm giving it an honest attempt because a lot of people have good results with it but so far it's just kind of resulted in me feeling crappy in both the fasted and fed states like I described above and I don't think see any difference with body fat.

On the positive side it though I like being able to eat a lot at once while I'm actually eating it and it does make it more convienient for meal prep and scheduling and performing fasted cardio but for me I think that so far the negatives outweigh the positives.

[mockery]

I've been on IF for about the past two weeks and honestly I think I'm about to drop it. I was very optimistic starting out and I've been doing at least a 16 hr fast but usually closer to 20 hrs since that's more convenient with my work schedule. I work 12 hr shifts of somewhat physical work and contrary to what I read I felt like I had much less energy during the day while in a fasted state. I actually feel tired and kind of weak and not very sharp mentally. Then when I get home from work and consume all my daily calories in a short time I enjoy eating the large meals but then I feel bloated and usually fall asleep pretty quickly after that and have an upset stomach into the next morning. I want to make sure I'm giving it an honest attempt because a lot of people have good results with it but so far it's just kind of resulted in me feeling crappy in both the fasted and fed states like I described above and I don't think see any difference with body fat.

On the positive side it though I like being able to eat a lot at once while I'm actually eating it and it does make it more convienient for meal prep and scheduling and performing fasted cardio but for me I think that so far the negatives outweigh the positives.

you never drop anything you adjust, you find whats not working. stick with the 16 hours fast. and have a shake at the 16 hour window so you get food in you. Still drink coffee for being alert... your hormones have to adjust to the protocol before you will reap all the benefits.

[mockery]

waste of money, even though you appear to be loaded haha. Its about removing any intake of any sort of calories. Yes peopel think they have wiggle room, but why? do it right or dont do it at all. alow your body to addampt to fasting it will teach u alot more about hunger, cravings and eating that is pricless and no one else can teach you this, then that aside the dietairy positive effects it has is a further bonus.

[Razor]

waste of money, even though you appear to be loaded haha. Its about removing any intake of any sort of calories. Yes peopel think they have wiggle room, but why? do it right or dont do it at all. alow your body to addampt to fasting it will teach u alot more about hunger, cravings and eating that is pricless and no one else can teach you this, then that aside the dietairy positive effects it has is a further bonus.

I do have money lol. 3 jobs is how I come up with it. But I will take all this into testing tomorrow! thx. I will probably be posting on here tomorrow about being hungry and miserable, im used to eating 8 times a day, so will need some support to stay on the straight path.

[fatman225]

I do have money lol. 3 jobs is how I come up with it. But I will take all this into testing tomorrow! thx. I will probably be posting on here tomorrow about being hungry and miserable, im used to eating 8 times a day, so will need some support to stay on the straight path.

You might actually find that your first day of it is easier than you thought it would be. I think part of our "hunger" and the feelings that come from it are triggered by eating small amounts of food, where in the completely fasted state you feel less hungry.

[greenwell001]

waste of money, even though you appear to be loaded haha. Its about removing any intake of any sort of calories. Yes peopel think they have wiggle room, but why? do it right or dont do it at all. alow your body to addampt to fasting it will teach u alot more about hunger, cravings and eating that is pricless and no one else can teach you this, then that aside the dietairy positive effects it has is a further bonus.

One of the greatest sides of fasting is that your enzyme levels in your gut have ample time to restore, and your liver stays nice and detoxed. If these systems arent working right no amount of gear or diet will get you to your goal. I have been doing IF daily 16/8 for a long time and prob far into the future, of course i cheat on sundays but hey it works for me.

[mockery]

it will suck, but power through it. shits not easy hence why its not on infomercials at 3am on tv,, yet

[Razor]

it will suck, but power through it. shits not easy hence why its not on infomercials at 3am on tv,, yet

HAHA understood!

[mockery]

body by mockery, send me some tren out of your stash we call it even.

[Tx89]

You guys realize that catabolism is a completely normal thing to occur to your body that happens every single Day, right? Without being in a catabolic state u wont ever burn a gram of fat, ever. Also catabolism greatly enhances your PWO anabolism (if food choices are correct) --> glycogen supercompensation.

Concerning bcaas: I used to not take them too and thought all or nothing. But recently read a study about it where it said they greatly(!) increased your protein synthesis ability and pwo anabolism capacity. Take em since then and feel better in my workouts, could be mental though.

[Razor]

Okay Mock I'm 8 hours into my 24 hour fast. Starting to get hungry, gonna start pounding water like you said.

[Razor]

10 hours grrrrrr

[mockery]

cmon solider! if you are idel you will get hungry stay busy!! do something. , clean something go or for a walk! almost bed time now then you can hit the sack.

if you awake hunger dont break the fast hold out till 11!

[Razor]

cmon solider! if you are idel you will get hungry stay busy!! do something. , clean something go or for a walk! almost bed time now then you can hit the sack.

if you awake hunger dont break the fast hold out till 11!

11 hours or 11 oclock? IM frivoulsly typing a gyno thread up for the forum to keep busy

[mockery]

when did you start your fast? i was assuming you started it at 11am

[Razor]

Yup 11am

[mockery]

breakfast might be a bitch for you since media has taught us its so important.. yet with no scientific facts supporting, i say **** breakfast.

I met a older man who has been fasting for 20 years, every Wednesday. Its the day his family leaves him alone "grumpy day on the calendar" he doesnt lift or train, he just does it cause it makes him feel better. The guy looks young for his age and in shape. 20 years... must be something worth whiled to stick with it.

[Razor]

breakfast might be a bitch for you since media has taught us its so important.. yet with no scientific facts supporting, i say **** breakfast.

I met a older man who has been fasting for 20 years, every Wednesday. Its the day his family leaves him alone "grumpy day on the calendar" he doesnt lift or train, he just does it cause it makes him feel better. The guy looks young for his age and in shape. 20 years... must be something worth whiled to stick with it.

OK so do I need to go 16 hours without eating or the full 24? And will doing this 1-2 days a week on the weekend make an differences for me short or long term?

[capetown]

I think u are on the 16/8. The 24 hours are not everyday. There are a few variations of the plan but all have the same effect.

[Razor]

I think u are on the 16/8. The 24 hours are not everyday. There are a few variations of the plan but all have the same effect.

So I can eat at say 2-3am this morning? Time to go pound a liter-o-cola...i mean liter-o-water!!

[mockery]

do be looking for teh difference it will be making, everyone does that with IF protocols. Learn from it, learn about hunger learn about your body. Get all zen like and shit with it. dont weigh yourself before or the day after your fast. Just do it! its now apart of your life 1 day a week you will fast for 24 hours to better yourself. Its just part of teh routine now, eat , sleep , shit, fast

[Razor]

do be looking for teh difference it will be making, everyone does that with IF protocols. Learn from it, learn about hunger learn about your body. Get all zen like and shit with it. dont weigh yourself before or the day after your fast. Just do it! its now apart of your life 1 day a week you will fast for 24 hours to better yourself. Its just part of teh routine now, eat , sleep , shit, fast

sounds good! i cant wait to see what i feel like tomorrow to do fasted cardio ontop of this 24 hour period, or should i not do that, just eat in the AM no fasted cardio

[RaginCajun]

sounds good! i cant wait to see what i feel like tomorrow to do fasted cardio ontop of this 24 hour period, or should i not do that, just eat in the AM no fasted cardio

just have 10g BCAA's and you should be fine

[capetown]

Sorry, just read back. I guess u are on a 24 hr. good luck and stay busy.

[mockery]

no mate ur on a 1 day a week 24 hour fast

[Razor]

no mate ur on a 1 day a week 24 hour fast

water it is for dinner, i had a few questions above too

[mockery]

dont take bcaa before fasted cardio!!!

[mockery]

dont binge just eat your regular daily macros for today.

[mockery]

why skip it?

just go on about your business as usual. just dont eat