Var/Nolva stack female log

[megang]

Great progress Megan... Keep up the intensity clearly the hard work is paying off

Thank you!

[megang]

143.6 this morning

[GirlyGymRat]

She can't be stopped!!! Awesome

[megang]

She can't be stopped!!! Awesome

No you can't! I am going to the Arnold this next weekend so I am really pushing this week!

Post back and trip but before cardio (jog for 20 mins, plus 5 min warm-up and cooldown)

[megang]

I want your opinion on what my coaches suggested for while I prep for a show July 9. This is a copy of the email.

Anavar - beginning at 16 weeks out - 20mg daily

Nolvadex - 20mg daily beginning at 14-16 weeks out depending on how things look. May taper the dose upward a bit to 30-40mg over time.

If you have access to Clen, get it for fat burning. Otherwise, the Evogen stuff will be OK.

Have a bottle of Xpel on hand again for peak week.

[MIKE_XXL]

I have said this number of times, i do not like clen, it down regulates beta receptors to quick and renders it usless very quickly. ECA ia much better stack that maintains its function for a very long time, perhaps even for years.

I would like someone to post a study that shows benefit of using nolvadex in woman for leaning out, or for that matter any benefit other then breast cancer treatment. Oh i anticipate a long silence for this one....

Anavar is a very good natural choice for woman so no major issues there. I would likely start at a lower dose and add kre-alkaline creatine. Anavar improves ATP production and creatine is the building block of ATP, they are a very good obvious pair to be taken together. Kre-alkyline will NOT cause any water retention due to it being PH balanced.

Well my two and a half cents.

[Mr.BB]

I would like someone to post a study that shows benefit of using nolvadex in woman for leaning out, or for that matter any benefit other then breast cancer treatment. Oh i anticipate a long silence for this one....

No study needed. It will lean out chest area by killing the mammary tissue.
Most competitors nowadays have fake tits so they probably feel like leaning out somewhat!?!? (Just my theory)

Its stupid IMHO... But im probably biased as I luv breasts

[megang]

I have said this number of times, i do not like clen, it down regulates beta receptors to quick and renders it usless very quickly. ECA ia much better stack that maintains its function for a very long time, perhaps even for years.

I would like someone to post a study that shows benefit of using nolvadex in woman for leaning out, or for that matter any benefit other then breast cancer treatment. Oh i anticipate a long silence for this one....

Anavar is a very good natural choice for woman so no major issues there. I would likely start at a lower dose and add kre-alkaline creatine. Anavar improves ATP production and creatine is the building block of ATP, they are a very good obvious pair to be taken together. Kre-alkyline will NOT cause any water retention due to it being PH balanced.

Well my two and a half cents.

Kre-alkyline creatine?

[megang]

Post shoulders and biceps

[GirlyGymRat]

I ECY stack!!! I have no hunger.

[GirlyGymRat]

I poo pooped by several respected members when I posted a proposed stack the Nolva. My conclusion was there are better compounds for females.....

[megang]

No study needed. It will lean out chest area by killing the mammary tissue.
Most competitors nowadays have fake tits so they probably feel like leaning out somewhat!?!? (Just my theory)

Its stupid IMHO... But im probably biased as I luv breasts

I will ask my coach when it comes closer to when he would want me to use it

[Mp859]

You would be better off just running the anavar and a fat burner. Then possibly 4 weeks out from competiting you could run a anti estrogen to help dry you out. Nolvadex will do absolutely NOTHING for you. I have seen more than one female run it and get nothing from it.

[megang]

I definitely don't want to use something that isn't going to benefit my physique.

[GirlyGymRat]

This is exactly the response I received. I characterize the responses as follows.

Other components more helpful in final prep.
Save the tahtahs!

[Mr.BB]

Save the tahtahs!

This is something I would subscribe (just not the fake ones)!

[GirlyGymRat]

this is something i would subscribe (just not the fake ones)!

[TheTaxMan]

If the nolvadex is for water retention, try this instead

Herbal Classics Water Retention Tablets | Holland & Barrett - the UK’s Leading Health Retailer

My wife is on her first anavar cycle and she bloated really bad in the first couple of weeks,

She ran these for a few days along with B6 and it shifted it immediatley, i was shocked at how good they are,

im taking yohimbine at the moment and i started to get some water retention mainly in my cheeks, i took these with b6 and within a week my cheek bones were back.

[GirlyGymRat]

If the nolvadex is for water retention, try this instead Herbal Classics Water Retention Tablets | Holland & Barrett - the UK’s Leading Health Retailer My wife is on her first anavar cycle and she bloated really bad in the first couple of weeks, She ran these for a few days along with B6 and it shifted it immediatley, i was shocked at how good they are, im taking yohimbine at the moment and i started to get some water retention mainly in my cheeks, i took these with b6 and within a week my cheek bones were back.

Thx for sharing!

[megang]

143.2 this morning

I had an amazing time at the Arnold the past few days so I am holding some water but I am still down and leaner!

[megang]

Here is my coach's reply as to the reasoning for Nolvadex:

Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) blocks the effect of estrogen at the estrogen receptor, making it easier to burn fat in areas where fat loss is influenced by high estrogen - hips, midsection, thighs, etc. It's a very common drug in the bodybuilding world, used by both men and women. Any competitor that I have that is using Anavar, is likely also using Nolvadex precontest. VERY hard to get the legs/glutes very lean without it.

[Mr.BB]

Estrogen Receptor Antagonism uncovers gender-dimorphic suppression of whole body fat oxidation in humans: differential effects of tamoxifen on the GH and gonadal axes

Mike: Here you go.

Megan: You can show this study to your so called coach.

Funny how in women actually suppresses fat oxidation.

[megang]

I just have it a quick read. That study is on post menopausal women. I would think in younger women the effects would be different due to the amounts of natural estrogen/testosterone/etc and other hormones that women post menopause would have.

[Mr.BB]

I just have it a quick read. That study is on post menopausal women. I would think in younger women the effects would be different due to the amounts of natural estrogen/testosterone/etc and other hormones that women post menopause would have.

By your logic all post menopausal women would be skinny.

Pre and post menopausal is where testosterone is highest in women. Sorry, they didnt have any study on bodybuilders for this breast cancer drug lol

Tamoxifen reducing fat is bro science, here's another study: Effect of the anti-oestrogen tamoxifen on plasma levels of luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, prolactin, oestradiol and progesterone in normal pre-menopausal women.
... so this one tells you there an estradiol increase while taking tamoxifen. Your "coach" says that this (increased) estradiol is blocked by tamoxifen, how does it does this? What proof does he has of it?

[Mr.BB]

I just have it a quick read. That study is on post menopausal women. I would think in younger women the effects would be different due to the amounts of natural estrogen/testosterone/etc and other hormones that women post menopause would have.

Thinking a bit more about it, the hormone levels of a female on anavar are probably closer to post-menopausal woman than of a normal woman, so this study completely applies.

[megang]

Thinking a bit more about it, the hormone levels of a female on anavar are probably closer to post-menopausal woman than of a normal woman, so this study completely applies.

would that be due to the increase in testosterone compared to the level of estrogen?

[Mr.BB]

would that be due to the increase in testosterone compared to the level of estrogen?

Think you refering to androgens/estrogens ratio, yes. Probably even more androgens when you are taking anavar. And as most women get amenorrhea while on cycle, their ovaries are not producing much estradiol, at least not as much as ussual. So the situation is not so different from post menopausal IMHO.

[megang]

Look that makes a little sense...

This may be a dumb question but how can you test to make sure product is real?

[GirlyGymRat]

Look that makes a little sense... This may be a dumb question but how can you test to make sure product is real?

Labmax test Kits

[megang]

Post back training today....feel like I might finally be making progress

[GirlyGymRat]

Post back training today....feel like I might finally be making progress <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=162279"/>

You were always making progress but just wasn't visible. Recomp is physiological for me when the scale doesn't budge much and can't "see" the results of your hard work. Keep up your motivation!!!

[megang]

Post legs, I was exhausted so just making it to the gym at all was a success. I am getting some shape to my legs and butt as well as some separation between quads and hamstrings

[megang]

It is definitely a mental battle especially when the scale didn't move like you want or when pics don't show what you want to see. I know what I am doing is returning, I just need to stay consistent and patient with training and nutrition

[megang]

Still at 143.2, my period started yesterday which I know impacted my weight this morning, but I feel I have still made progress

[GirlyGymRat]

period Bloat just messes with the mindset. Just stay the course!

[megang]

Which is why my coach didn't change anything this week

[Mp859]

Which is why my coach didn't change anything this week

can I ask who your coach is?

[megang]

can I ask who your coach is?

Gordon Falcetti and his wife Jamie Pinder

[megang]

My coaches had me start anavar yesterday and we are waiting on the nolva until later.

Post shoulders and arms.

[GirlyGymRat]

Real var? What dose and protocol?