First ever Test E only cycle

[hammerheart]

Really good. I dont see where the weight is going now, but I dont feel I am adding fat, and im steadily gaining each week (2lbs from last week). I think im just inflating my entire body haha. Not seeing massive muscles but I know thats because of my body fat. I cant wait to do another clean bulk then cut down to 8% body fat. Hopefully have my dream body then. (190ish, 8/10% body fat, 6ft.)



From this week I will be weighing myself each day and do a weekly mean average. Hopefully I will keep gaining 1/2 lbs a week for the next 3/4 weeks. Long as I am gaining I will continue to week 16.

Those shoulders are gonna explode!

Also make sure you switch hands when playing with yourself, or symmetry will suffer. That's a real thing on cycle.

[Jangles1]

Those shoulders are gonna explode!

Also make sure you switch hands when playing with yourself, or symmetry will suffer. That's a real thing on cycle.

hahaha

[hollowedzeus]

Got a base now don’t I?

https://youtu.be/nDwQJ64UpFQ

How dare you speak to mr obs like that. Settle it like men. Pistols at dawn...

And btw. Youre base for starting aas doesnt count if you need aas to reach it... js.

Im glad youre happy because at the end of the day thats all that matters but id be gutted if my first cycle even closely resembled yours.

[Jangles1]

https://youtu.be/nDwQJ64UpFQ

How dare you speak to mr obs like that. Settle it like men. Pistols at dawn...

And btw. Youre base for starting aas doesnt count if you need aas to reach it... js.

Im glad youre happy because at the end of the day thats all that matters but id be gutted if my first cycle even closely resembled yours.

I just went and checked the 'Steroid Base Handbook' and cant find any into to back up your statement ;0

Jokes aside. Whatever I keep from this cycle (10 weeks after PCT) will then be my base. So it doesn't really matter if I used AAS to get It or not, its still my base before moving on to cycle 2, when ever that may be.


' but id be gutted if my first cycle even closely resembled yours'



Nearly 30lbs added, even with the under dosed Test at the start.... Yeah ok. Im sure you'd be gutted if you gained 30lbs with minimal fat (from what I can see). Some comedians popping up in this thread lately.

[hollowedzeus]

I just went and checked the 'Steroid Base Handbook' and cant find any into to back up your statement ;0

Jokes aside. Whatever I keep from this cycle (10 weeks after PCT) will then be my base. So it doesn't really matter if I used AAS to get It or not, its still my base before moving on to cycle 2, when ever that may be.


' but id be gutted if my first cycle even closely resembled yours'



Nearly 30lbs added, even with the under dosed Test at the start.... Yeah ok. Im sure you'd be gutted if you gained 30lbs with minimal fat (from what I can see). Some comedians popping up in this thread lately.

I think you're delusional. I added more visable mass in 16 weeks naturally with test levels at 9nmol/l.

I dont know where the 30lbs went but it certainly didnt all go to muscle.

Im certain you will keep all of your gains post pct and surgery because you didnt gain very much

[Jangles1]

I think you're delusional. I added more visable mass in 16 weeks naturally with test levels at 9nmol/l.

I dont know where the 30lbs went but it certainly didnt all go to muscle.

Im certain you will keep all of your gains post pct and surgery because you didnt gain very much

Lmao are you actually blind. Clearly a troll.

Can’t wait to see your cycle log. Il be keeping an eye out for it that’s for sure.

[songdog]

I think you're delusional. I added more visable mass in 16 weeks naturally with test levels at 9nmol/l.

I dont know where the 30lbs went but it certainly didnt all go to muscle.

Im certain you will keep all of your gains post pct and surgery because you didnt gain very much

I agree with you bro!

[ThatGuy82]

Holy fuck this was a good read! I LOL'd ...a lot. This was a great core workout reading through some of these comments.

Jangles my man I give you props for putting yourself out there like that. Take the constructive criticism here and run with it, learn from it all, and keep driving towards your goals in the future. Good luck man!

[Jangles1]

It’s been a journey and I have learnt a lot. That’s what life’s all about man.

Can’t wait to come back 4 or 5 weeks after PCT and prove loads of folk wrong with the gains I’ve kept.

Unless they magically shrink away because I wasn’t at 76585lbs before I started

[David LoPan]

Looks like that cycle has added some hair to your chest.

[Jangles1]

Looks like that cycle has added some hair to your chest.

Hair and 30lbs of just water yeah

lmao

[Capebuffalo]

Is this your trainer?

[Jangles1]

Is this your trainer?

He seems to know what he is doing. Nice gains there. Not everyone wants to show off their muscles in cheesy wifebeater vests bro.

[David LoPan]

Hell Dball and Tren with test would be huge gain on a bulk if you eat right. Base or not. Smart NOT at all. I know you will be on it soon enough.

[Jangles1]

Hell Dball and Tren with test would be huge gain on a bulk if you eat right. Base or not. Smart NOT at all. I know you will be on it soon enough.

Id prefer to get lean gains tbh. I dont think I will ever do a big wet bulk.

[Dubai]

This is a very entertaining thread ... gear heads vs the science nerd ... a must read for anyone wanting to see what happens when a bookworm goes on a cycle to try and become a man

[Jangles1]

This is a very entertaining thread ... gear heads vs the science nerd ... a must read for anyone wanting to see what happens when a bookworm goes on a cycle to try and become a man

Ive put on 30lbs from this cycle and changed my entire frame and feel a lot better in my own skin... Im saying its a huge success as of now (pre PCT).

(PS - If you think doing a cycle makes you a man, you need a reality check. Being a good personal morally makes you a man in my book).

[hollowedzeus]

Im not hating on you

Since you keep saying ypure not phased i keep giving my opinion.
How little muscle you put on is not proportianal to your base... since you started with so little you hypothetically should have gotten more out of it percentage wise that someone with a higher muscle mass.

The fact that you added so little suggests little knowledge in training and nutrition. Ive saw your sample meals and its seems good but for sure there is something amiss.

If you want me to stop commenting tell me and i will.

Wishing you all the best

[Jangles1]

Im not hating on you

Since you keep saying ypure not phased i keep giving my opinion.
How little muscle you put on is not proportianal to your base... since you started with so little you hypothetically should have gotten more out of it percentage wise that someone with a higher muscle mass.

The fact that you added so little suggests little knowledge in training and nutrition. Ive saw your sample meals and its seems good but for sure there is something amiss.

If you want me to stop commenting tell me and i will.

Wishing you all the best

Nah man feel free to keep commenting. Im happy to receive negative feedback as long as its constructive. One cannot learn without such feedback....

I dont know what else to say really. My diet IS in check, my training IS in check, Im not fitting into half my shirts anymore, everyone who I see (who ive not seen for a while) has commented on how mad I look compared to 3 months ago etc.... Going by my pics and body, I do not feel I have put on much fat...

Ive added 30lbs of something lol.....


I do not see where this 'you have added so little' is coming from. I look like a totally different person. If this is 'little' in terms of lean muscle mass, I cant wait to smash some Decca and D Bol and see what I get from that....

My first 6 weeks was with underdosed Test, but I added Test Prop (Week 6 - 12) to make up for it.... Other than that and the fact (we knowwwwwwww) I started my cycle before building a better base, I do not see what else I could be doing wrong. I'm in the gym 6 days a week following a really solid Push Pull Legs plan.

I am happy with the change I have gone through and will just keep working hard once PCT has finished to keep gaining naturally.

My only conclusion is that you have unrealistic expectations of what a mild AAS cycle will do for someone who is undersized... Relatively speaking in terms of my before and current pics, I have clearly made an amazing change in my body. Anyone with a set of eyes can see that I have about doubled in size.



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Todays Diet (3900 cals atm)



Breakfast

Milk
Protein Powder

Cals - 312

Lunch

Chicken, Rice, Peppers, Green Beans, Eggs, Olive Oil

Cals - 1079

Dinner

Chicken, Sweet Potato, Avocado, Olive Oil

Cals - 1096

Snacks

Milk + Oats Shake
Almonds
Cashew Nuts
Organic Yogurt
Pro Elite 'My Protein' Protein Bar

Cals - 1444


Total

P - 312 (usually shoot for 280 and the rest carbs)
C - 350
F - 139

Calories - 3930


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Todays Workout


Pull

Deadlift
Bent Over Row
Wide Grip Pull Ups
Lat Pulldown
Seated Row
Preacher Curl
Hammer Curl

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[cousinmuscles]

Nah man feel free to keep commenting. Im happy to receive negative feedback as long as its constructive. One cannot learn without such feedback....

I dont know what else to say really. My diet IS in check, my training IS in check, Im not fitting into half my shirts anymore, everyone who I see (who ive not seen for a while) has commented on how mad I look compared to 3 months ago etc.... Going by my pics and body, I do not feel I have put on much fat...

Ive added 30lbs of something lol.....

I do not see where this 'you have added so little' is coming from. I look like a totally different person. If this is 'little' in terms of lean muscle mass, I cant wait to smash some Decca and D Bol and see what I get from that....

My first 6 weeks was with underdosed Test, but I added Test Prop (Week 6 - 12) to make up for it.... Other than that and the fact (we knowwwwwwww) I started my cycle before building a better base, I do not see what else I could be doing wrong. I'm in the gym 6 days a week following a really solid Push Pull Legs plan.

I am happy with the change I have gone through and will just keep working hard once PCT has finished to keep gaining naturally.

You have barely changed in your pictures. There's some constructive feedback. I made better gains naturally as a teenager within the same timeframe. You are blinded by scale weight gain but completely miss points like the fact that you're using 42,5kg for incline bench - at that level you can just train and grow even with subpar training and diet naturally.

It is wrong to just come here in your thread and put you down. As much as you don't care about getting attention or don't care if you're not succumbing to others pleasures, extremely few would enjoy putting you down when you have accomplished something.

You are not truthful in what you say you do, and that is easy to measure from observing the outcome. You aren't truthful when you look at your own pictures either. Usually it's the other way around with lifters they think they're just small lol.

[Jangles1]

You have barely changed in your pictures. There's some constructive feedback.

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You my friend are having a laugh.. The weight means nothing to me. I am going of my progress pics, how I fit in to clothes and the comments I am getting from people that dont know I am going to the gym.. To say I have barely changed is absolutely laughable.

The difference in the pics is night and day. You're letting your ego get in the way of your opinion, clearly. I may not look like i've done a 12 week Test cycle, but to say I have not made a significant change in my frame is absurd.

You are not truthful in what you say you do, and that is easy to measure from watching the outcome .

You're wrong man. I have nothing to hide and have been nothing but 100% truthful from day 1.

Its so pleasing sitting here knowing that some guy on a forum is saying something that is totally untrue. You have no idea man.



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When all I said and done, not one of you guys opinions means a single thing to me. This is why its SO SO funny to me. All that matters is how I feel. I think I will trust the consent flow of people that have randomly come up to me and commented on my progress + the fitting of my clothes over some but hurt, ego driven forum members opinion.

I have done this log so people can learn (you always learn from your mistakes and people can learn from a few of mine by reading this)

I will follow through until the end, then come back after PCT, like I said I would. If I loose my appranrt none gains, then you can say you told me so

[cousinmuscles]

You my friend are having a laugh....

Had to Google that phrase sounded like an idiom, no I am not kidding, the difference in the muscle mass gained is gigantic compared to my first cycle of 600mg test. Being that you had very little muscle to begin with the visual difference should have been bigger even if we had gained as much LBM.

[kronik420]

Nah man feel free to keep commenting. Im happy to receive negative feedback as long as its constructive. One cannot learn without such feedback....

I dont know what else to say really. My diet IS in check, my training IS in check, Im not fitting into half my shirts anymore, everyone who I see (who ive not seen for a while) has commented on how mad I look compared to 3 months ago etc.... Going by my pics and body, I do not feel I have put on much fat...

Ive added 30lbs of something lol.....


I do not see where this 'you have added so little' is coming from. I look like a totally different person. If this is 'little' in terms of lean muscle mass, I cant wait to smash some Decca and D Bol and see what I get from that....

My first 6 weeks was with underdosed Test, but I added Test Prop (Week 6 - 12) to make up for it.... Other than that and the fact (we knowwwwwwww) I started my cycle before building a better base, I do not see what else I could be doing wrong. I'm in the gym 6 days a week following a really solid Push Pull Legs plan.

I am happy with the change I have gone through and will just keep working hard once PCT has finished to keep gaining naturally.

My only conclusion is that you have unrealistic expectations of what a mild AAS cycle will do for someone who is undersized... Relatively speaking in terms of my before and current pics, I have clearly made an amazing change in my body. Anyone with a set of eyes can see that I have about doubled in size.



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Todays Diet (3900 cals atm)



Breakfast

Milk
Protein Powder

Cals - 312

Lunch

Chicken, Rice, Peppers, Green Beans, Eggs, Olive Oil

Cals - 1079

Dinner

Chicken, Sweet Potato, Avocado, Olive Oil

Cals - 1096

Snacks

Milk + Oats Shake
Almonds
Cashew Nuts
Organic Yogurt
Pro Elite 'My Protein' Protein Bar

Cals - 1444


Total

P - 312 (usually shoot for 280 and the rest carbs)
C - 350
F - 139

Calories - 3930


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Todays Workout


Pull

Deadlift
Bent Over Row
Wide Grip Pull Ups
Lat Pulldown
Seated Row
Preacher Curl
Hammer Curl

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sets? reps? weight? progress from last pull day??

[Jangles1]

sets? reps? weight? progress from last pull day??

1 warm up set always then 3 working sets with 10-12 reps.

I work to failure though and progressively overload each week. Either 1 more rep in every set or just something as long as it’s an improvement in weight or rep.

Weight is low as I’m coming back from an injury and started from scratch to allow my body to get used to weight.

This is advice my Pysio, Doctor, massage therapist and personal trainer friend (he’s jacked) told me. Training smart, focusing on form and technique is my approach.

Bare in mind I’ve had Bicep Tendonits in both arms and a fucked up rotator cuff through the entire cycle. Still in the gym 6 days a week though !

[Jangles1]

What I mean is, you cant know what I would have gained or should have gained. Its an impossible task to know exactly how things would have been with a better base. One can guess or form an educated opinion, but to say it as black and white as you do IMO is not right.

Who knows ? I never will and I dont care haha.

[Jangles1]

Tonight has been fun but far too distracting. I must go as I need to eat another 76889 calories so I can put on 0.0003% of muscle from this cycle.

Week 13 update coming Monday with pics showing ive made absolutely zero change to my body, a load of lies about my diet and training and weight update that shows ive put on nothing but fat, all on my left foot.

Peace

[David LoPan]

I can say unlike most people that run their first cycle you have stayed with it, trained, learned, skipped going out drinking with your friends. You made a lifestyle change and you, unlike most on here posted their pictures for their first cycle. I say, good job, you are learning and you have thick skin. What it takes in life. Could you have done this without AAS, IDK maybe or maybe not. You could still be out running with your mates.

You made a choice and you have stuck with it.

[GearHeaded]

I can say unlike most people that run their first cycle you have stayed with it, trained, learned, skipped going out drinking with your friends. You made a lifestyle change and you, unlike most on here posted their pictures for their first cycle. I say, good job, you are learning and you have thick skin. What it takes in life. Could you have done this without AAS, IDK maybe or maybe not. You could still be out running with your mates.

You made a choice and you have stuck with it.

good post

[hollowedzeus]

I do gice jangles props for sticking to his guns. Ot would be far more admirable if he didnt hit out with stuff like 'go fuckyourself' but thats that.

I dont want to come across as a bully but just to be absolutely clear, you have certainly thickened. Whether that be from aas water retention or some added beef we dont and cant know. I suspect its a bit of both.

If youre really eating what you say youre eating.... a massive well done its hard work.

However in response to david lopan. If someone goes on about how they are resistance going out on the piss at the weekend, its not a lifestyle change.... its a like a woman 'going on a diet'. Fo it for a biy then go on a binge.

I apologise if i have came across rude but im trying to convince you to see what we see because it funny sometimes when when you posted up your pictures.


This is coming from a 19 year old so take it with however much of a pinch of salt you want. Keep training and keep eating.

[Jangles1]

All good mate. Thank you.


I’ve stuck with this from day 1 and put my self out there for criticism because I want to learn.

Me not being truthful about my calorie intake and training would be counter productive to this log and getting feedback I can apply.

3 major things I’ve taken on board from this log are

- changing my routine. I was doing a 5 day split (not bro split) and someone recommended i need to hit each body part twice. So I did research and switched up to a 6 day push pull legs.

- not eating as much protein. I was on 280g a day at 180lbs. I took on board the feedback I was given and dropped it to 250g replacing the rest with carbs

- I’ve come to understand that I was inpatient and even with injuries, should have worked through to build a better base. This would have given me better results on a first cycle.


All in all, I’m here to learn and although I don’t agree or take on board every single little comment (I have my own mind), I have soaked up a wealth of knowledge and I’ve said many times “it’s been a journey”

I will start taking more pics of my meals and posting more about nutrition for the last few weeks.

In terms of me saying go fuck yourself I have to stick up for myself here. Besides all this forum shit I’m a good person with morals and treat others how I want to be treated. If you read this entire thread you will see the shit I’ve had to put up with. From being accused of lying about my age to lying about my calorie intake. I’ve been told I must quit. This cycle is pointless. I’ve been told im nothing but skinny and will not keep a single thing from this cycle. I’ve been told this, that and just about every negative thing you could think of. Some justified. Some not. That’s lif though and you can’t run a log and only hope for positive comments. I was prepared for constructive negative comments and some none constructive. Unfortunately 90% of the negatives have been Unconstructive.

Given the circumstances I would say I’ve handled it fairly well and have been nice to most people. Most people would have bailed on week 1 of this log.

The only people I’ve said bad things to are morons like Caberbofoon or whatever his name is (wife beater guy) who make fun of my progress (doesn’t bother me 1 bit. Just makes me giggle. 45 year old man being a forum bully lol). So in regards to those. They can go fuck them selves

If no one likes that attitude then don’t read this thread.

[songdog]

Jangles guys here are telling you the truth quit thinking because it isn't a pat on the back they are putting you down.This is the cold hard truth bro.You got a good base when people know you lift and train hard you added some weigh to your mid section.A base isn't built in 10 to 12 weeks it's thick muscle built over time and people notice the change the V shape the big traps bigger arms.When you get those you will have a solid base yes you look better but you still got a ways to go before you look like you train.Work hard and listen to wats said here and use it.

[Jangles1]

Jangles guys here are telling you the truth quit thinking because it isn't a pat on the back they are putting you down.This is the cold hard truth bro.You got a good base when people know you lift and train hard you added some weigh to your mid section.A base isn't built in 10 to 12 weeks it's thick muscle built over time and people notice the change the V shape the big traps bigger arms.When you get those you will have a solid base yes you look better but you still got a ways to go before you look like you train.Work hard and listen to wats said here and use it.

Thanks. I will do that.

[Jangles1]

Little diet update.


Breakfast / Lunch / Dinner


Oats and Milk Porridge
Turkey Chilli with Black Beans
Steak, Mash, Mixed Peppers

Snacks


2 x Organic Natural Yogurt
20 x Cashew Nuts
Cassien Protein Shake with rolled oats and milk.


Macros


P - 306
C - 381
F - 124

Calories - 3900



Waiting to get some Instant Oats so I can consume more carbs easier. I struggle downing rolled oats in milk, even when blended,

[Berzerk]

Little diet update.


Breakfast / Lunch / Dinner


Oats and Milk Porridge
Turkey Chilli with Black Beans
Steak, Mash, Mixed Peppers

Snacks


2 x Organic Natural Yogurt
20 x Cashew Nuts
Cassien Protein Shake with rolled oats and milk.


Macros


P - 306
C - 381
F - 124

Calories - 3900



Waiting to get some Instant Oats so I can consume more carbs easier. I struggle downing rolled oats in milk, even when blended,

Is this thread serious?

Is this what I can expect here?

[Jerry2020]

Is this thread serious?

Is this what I can expect here?

Haha pretty sure most people will say you’re free to f*** off if you don’t think you’re getting your money’s worth

[Berzerk]

Haha pretty sure most people will say you’re free to f*** off if you don’t think you’re getting your money’s worth

Goodness. I'm truly sorry to offend. I honestly thought this was a whole troll thread.

My bad.

There are some real lifters here, is what I mean to say. I came here looking for training as and diet tips and routines. I'm just a little taken back by this, that's all.

As this same poster, jangles1, gave some usage tips and training advice to an almost pro caliber football player in another thread, as if he was some type of gym guru.

I'm sorry, but very very out of his realm, no?

[Jerry2020]

I must say I had seen that too, had to have a giggle, also saw one where he accused a guy of “half assing his cycle”....

[Jangles1]

Goodness. I'm truly sorry to offend. I honestly thought this was a whole troll thread.

My bad.

There are some real lifters here, is what I mean to say. I came here looking for training as and diet tips and routines. I'm just a little taken back by this, that's all.

As this same poster, jangles1, gave some usage tips and training advice to an almost pro caliber football player in another thread, as if he was some type of gym guru.

I'm sorry, but very very out of his realm, no?

This a a begginer cycle log that’s been a journey and will help others learn.

If you don’t like it, don’t read it man.

Just because I’m a begginer doesn’t mean i cannot pass on sound technical advice that’s come from many many hours of research, reading books like William Llewellyn's “ anabolics “

The cycle i suggested came from that book and was specific of the OPs goals. So.......

Preety good fucking advice

Guess you have to be a “gym guru” now days to offer solid advice out of best selling book about AAS.

[Jerry2020]

All good mate I wasn’t trying to have a go at you even though I understand it might’ve come across that way. I actually admire the fact you’re still on here, you’ve done and said a couple of silly things but to be honest you’ve copped more than you’ve earned from a few guys acting the fool in this thread

I must say I missed when you went away for a couple of weeks over Xmas, this is the most entertaining thread on here I think. And I have learnt a lot to carry over in my own cycle, whether it be through the mistakes highlighted in this thread or the positives, you learn from both, so I’m thankful for it

[David LoPan]

Hey Jangles, wait and see how your PCT goes. That will be the real test. Everything else is speculation. Botton line is that you kept on your cycle, you ate right and went to the gym. Keep that up though PCT and keep working hard. If AAS has worked for you getting in the gym, changing your lifestyle and making you feel better that is what is important. Very few people post up their pictures on here and keep logging their journey. This is a marthon not a sprint. No matter what the outcome you have learned a lot, hit the gym and changed your lifestyle. You make a personal choice and commintment and you stuck by your word on posting reguardless of what other people say. That is what it takes to be successful in life and in the gym.