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    Don't have to wait till next Monday to cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by naenae85 View Post
    Don't have to wait till next Monday to cut
    hey naenae!

    ur rite i dont have to.. but it takes a little mental prep for me.. running 4days of zero carbs + 2 total body glycogen depletion workouts is something i have to prepare for. its a pretty brutal schedule. also ill be doing am fasted cardio 5days per week.

    rite now im getting 400g carbs and doing no cardio! a big shift!

    i wanna enjoy one more week of being fat and lazy!

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    What's up bro. Still at it I see. New avi looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeral View Post
    What's up bro. Still at it I see. New avi looking good.
    hey man good to see u! u still on vacation or u back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    hey man good to see u! u still on vacation or u back?
    I am back and ready to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeral View Post
    I am back and ready to go!
    good deal AL! ill be back on the cardio/cutting diet with u next monday!

    now GET TO IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    good deal AL! ill be back on the cardio/cutting diet with u next monday!
    So whats the stats now 405 and whats the plan with the cut??

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    ^^ looks like were both gonna be cutting

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    200lbs 9.3%bf

    UD2.0

    3.5day low/nocarb
    30hr 6000cal refeed
    2days deficit moderate carb
    repeat
    until i stick (prob around 7.8%BF)

    then
    days 1-5: no/lowcarb
    day 6&7: 800g carbs
    repeat

    2x per day cardio on this cycle hopefully to 5%bf (maybe 4 weeks)

    prob an 8week cut.. then ill prob take 2 weeks at maintenance then bulk again who knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    200lbs 9.3%bf
    Nice!

    Hey bro, I'm straight going for your stats. You seem to have a quite similar physique to myself. No crazy bad ass abs at even a low Bf%. I don't care too much though, I just want the rest of me to look solid too.

    Gl, bro! Keep on the track of just getting better with time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Nice!

    Hey bro, I'm straight going for your stats. You seem to have a quite similar physique to myself. No crazy bad ass abs at even a low Bf%. I don't care too much though, I just want the rest of me to look solid too.

    Gl, bro! Keep on the track of just getting better with time.
    thx dude.. good luck and we are here for u

    p.s. im working on the abs. its one area i never worked and im gonna try and change em up a bit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    thx dude.. good luck and we are here for u

    p.s. im working on the abs. its one area i never worked and im gonna try and change em up a bit!

    Awwe, thanks. . lol

    But yeah, I am starting to concentrate on abs also. It just seems so genetic, I see people that never workout abs and just have a gnarly 8 pack.

    Not to be a douche, but what are the rest of your stats? Bicep size, waist size and age.

    Also how long have you been at "it" hard?
    Last edited by < <Samson> >; 09-03-2012 at 07:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Awwe, thanks. . lol

    But yeah, I am starting to concentrate on abs also. It just seems so genetic, I see people that never workout abs and just have a gnarly 8 pack.

    Not to be a douche, but what are the rest of your stats? Bicep size, waist size and age.

    Also how long have you been at "it" hard?
    yeh theyre lucky fcukers

    bicep: 16.75"
    waist: 32"-35" (depending)
    37 yrs old
    been at it hard for 10months

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    Will definitely be subscribed for that plan..

    Kicks off next Monday am I right?

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    yep next monday!

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    Thanks a lot bro, seriously damn near the same as me - 20 pounds of lardy goodness. You just got 5 years on me.

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    Haha enjoy the week. 400g of carbs? Woh I'm gaining weight thinking about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by naenae85 View Post
    Haha enjoy the week. 400g of carbs? Woh I'm gaining weight thinking about it
    LOL.. U think thats a lot naenae when i start my cutting diet i will eat 1300g carbs in 30hrs for my refeed!

    Thats not a typo either (1300g)

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    LOL.. U think thats a lot naenae when i start my cutting diet i will eat 1300g carbs in 30hrs for my refeed!

    Thats not a typo either (1300g)
    What would you say the advantages are of your depletion, no carbs, refeed diet over say, what I am doing, 60/20/20 (morning/around workouts for carbs)? Is your stricter diet more designed to help propel into the 9,8,7 etc bf% whereas at a higher bf % (20) the body responds just fine to the low carb/ calorie deficit?

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    Looking forward to watching your progress with the cut, good luck, and looking pretty beast in the new avi.

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    Dude nice avi btw
    Who takes all the photos?

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    I do. With the same app i told u to get

    Ispybot for iphone...

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    ^^ exactly.. When cutting IMO (and in Lyle MacDonalds opinion which is way more important) it is always better to do the simplest approach. For someone at higher bf% (16% or above) a standard cutting diet should work just fine. When u get lower and progress stalls it is then time to implement a more sophisticated/complex approach becaue the body doesnt like being at a low bf%.

    this is where the carb cycle comes into play. There are many styles/forms of carb cycles. UD2.0 is the one ive found to work best for me.

    Also IMO running strait low carb at the offset will leave room in the future when a potential plateau arrives to implement the carb cycle which hopefully should push the person thru the plateau and continue in the cutting process.

    Leaving area for tweaking IMO is a good idea so that u have ammo if/when a plateau is reached.

    At 20% bf u should have no prob cutting fat with a standard approach and IMO cycling carbs then is premature.
    Last edited by --->>405<<---; 09-04-2012 at 01:39 PM.

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    ^^okay that is what I though. Simple approach with higher bf and more advanced to crush plateaus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucka View Post
    ^^okay that is what I though. Simple approach with higher bf and more advanced to crush plateaus!
    not only can it help break thru a plateau but also when u get lower in body fat it becomes tuffer to lose it cuz ur body wants to hang onto it. ur body sees low body fat as a threat. the lower it is the more likely (as far as ur body is concerned) u are to starve to death!

    ur body doesnt know u can just go to the mac donalds drive thru!

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    oh yeh i almost forgot.. i tried 365 on the bench today and failed! felt weaker today when i did 315 warming up.. kinda had a feeling i wasnt gonna get it.. had it about halfway and thought i had it and then got hit with reality! sucked!

    i would like to note my diet yesterday and the day before sucked. i had cheat meal sunday and didnt really eat alot after it and then yesterday didnt eat all my food and ventured out of the diet a bit and had 2 sandwiches. they were good! dont ever eat them. wonder if this mite have affected my performance?

    if i cant get it friday then ill just have to wait til after i cut. unless i can get it while cutting which would be cool!

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    Sometimes I wish I would starve instead of having the option for those drivethrus!

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    Hey 405, if I'm low on my protein intake but close to my maxes in carbs and fats what's a good source of protein rich food besides whey (and low in C and F)

    Also, I like to eat cottage cheese at night for my last meal. Should I incorperate these carbs into my daily allowance?

    Thanks on advance as always for the good advice

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    Mate, do you live anywhere near Quitman in GA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Mate, do you live anywhere near Quitman in GA?
    300km from there. why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    300km from there. why?
    I just read its illegal for a chicken to cross the road in that town!
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    Quote Originally Posted by milky01623 View Post
    That my friend from over the pond would be immense and more than likely a really good laugh
    I'm up for it
    ur rite. me 2. i dont know if SteM is quite that adventurous

    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    I just read its illegal for a chicken to cross the road in that town!
    yeh ive heard chicken jay walking has become a real problem down there! LOL

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    SteM will you stop popping up like a jack in a box r u back full on yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milky01623
    SteM will you stop popping up like a jack in a box r u back full on yet?
    Nope! And my names not Jack. And it's been a long time since I was in a box!!!!!

    I'm about here and there at the minute, I'll be visiting your thread too. If I still recognise you!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM

    Nope! And my names not Jack. And it's been a long time since I was in a box!!!!!

    I'm about here and there at the minute, I'll be visiting your thread too. If I still recognise you!!!
    Please do you'll still recognise me lol

    Hey 405 it's about time this friendly face was back what dya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milky01623 View Post
    Please do you'll still recognise me lol

    Hey 405 it's about time this friendly face was back what dya think?
    yeh i miss my buddy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    yeh i miss my buddy..
    Gee thanx an here's me thinking we're pals

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    yeh i miss my buddy..
    Gee thanx lol

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    who is this guy stem that pops in here from time to time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeral
    who is this guy stem that pops in here from time to time?
    Al I thin k he must be a dedicated follower of fashion as the songs lyrics go
    They seek him here.
    They seek him

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