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    Apologies

    Yes, all the photos were removed. Simply too much going on to take any risks at all. Apologies.

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    The dark side of AAS usage

    ***Warning, I most strongly advise against not doing the following!**** I have been transitioning back into an off season bulking cycle and my weight is back up to 97kg from my contest weight of 86kg with the target of 115kg in my sights. I had been running anadrol for 3 weeks amongst other things when I went to donate blood. Damn, 17-AA had my ALT level at 51 which is over the 40 limit for donation. Had mild headaches, red face and my BP was already 143/88. What to do? After much foreboding, I unpacked an 18 gauge syringe, got the 350mL container from the kitchen along with a sterile glove, rubber tubing and alcohol. Everything as sterile as possible. Ok, by now I am thinking shite, this is going to sting, but I am not willing to risk high BP....the silent killer. Anyway, I slid the needle into the whiteboard marker sized vein right below my bicep slowly. Wow, it was like a geyser. And no pain at all. I simply let it drain into the cup until I had 350mL out and then drained another 150mL. You wouldn't believe how much better I feel, and I had just donated 500mL 30 days ago. Yes, maybe I stepped over the line this time but, I simply improvised the best I could and erred on the side of practicality.

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    You're a ****ing man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69 View Post
    You're a ****ing man...
    Agreed

    Altough I wish I could have seen those progress pics...

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    what a beast

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    Just curious, why didnt you go ahead and donate some more blood. I understand your alt levels were high, but wouldnt the blood bank test and say nope alt levels way to high...and dumped your blood in the haz waste bucket. Are you taking anything for the hbp, dude your nuts, 18gauged yourself in the arm....ouch....well i hope your feeling better....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KZRSOIZE View Post
    Just curious, why didnt you go ahead and donate some more blood. I understand your alt levels were high, but wouldnt the blood bank test and say nope alt levels way to high...and dumped your blood in the haz waste bucket. Are you taking anything for the hbp, dude your nuts, 18gauged yourself in the arm....ouch....well i hope your feeling better....
    Sorry for the late reply. They would absolutely not take my blood. They test it with a finger prick. I do not take high blood pressure meds, I simply drain 550mL of my blood every 2-3 weeks(phlebotomy is the proper name). Honestly, it doesn't hurt. It can make a mess though.
    Last edited by thunderin; 02-22-2009 at 03:57 AM.

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    Good to be back. I took a break in GH for 3 months and had switched back to CJC-1295. But, I hate the rush that it gives you...red face, pulsing head, accelerated heart rate, etc. So, I am back on 10iu's of GH ed. My wife wants another baby, and so I started my PCT a week ago by coming off of test prop. This is the first break in AAS usage I have had in a very long time. Since I am having issues with the formatting on this website, I have attached my PCT. Though different than other PCT's, it is backed up by documented medical research (see the education or PCT forum for my post). Thanks
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    I am into my 4th week of the above PCT after coming off of test prop on the tail end of an almost continuous 3 years of heavy AAS use. I used test prop for the last 3 months of my cycle so as there would be no down time waiting for long esters to clear my system. My wife wants another baby, and I will oblige. My bodyweight has dropped to 90kg at the end of my cycle but it has increased to 98kg since i started my PCT. I suppose that the the twice daily injects of 10iu's of GH, 20iu's of Novalog and 150mcg of T4 are working BTW, I inject 5iu's GH and 10iu's slin twice daily at the same time. Eating like a horse. I go for my 2nd blood test next week, and I am already getting strong erections at night, looking at porn or if the road is too bumpy. The day before yesterday was the first time in a long time that I did not use viagra as was able to perform well. For me, that means a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin View Post
    I am into my 4th week of the above PCT after coming off of test prop on the tail end of an almost continuous 3 years of heavy AAS use. I used test prop for the last 3 months of my cycle so as there would be no down time waiting for long esters to clear my system. My wife wants another baby, and I will oblige. My bodyweight has dropped to 90kg at the end of my cycle but it has increased to 98kg since i started my PCT. I suppose that the the twice daily injects of 10iu's of GH, 20iu's of Novalog and 150mcg of T4 are working BTW, I inject 5iu's GH and 10iu's slin twice daily at the same time. Eating like a horse. I go for my 2nd blood test next week, and I am already getting strong erections at night, looking at porn or if the road is too bumpy. The day before yesterday was the first time in a long time that I did not use viagra as was able to perform well. For me, that means a lot
    great info bro. good luck on making the baby and please keep us informed as to your results and bloodwork
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin View Post
    Sorry for the late reply. They would absolutely not take my blood. They test it with a finger prick. I do not take high blood pressure meds, I simply drain 550mL of my blood every 2-3 weeks(phlebotomy is the proper name). Honestly, it doesn't hurt. It can make a mess though.
    Phlebotomy
    Actually there are places that will do it. I have a prescription from my longevity doc and going to get it done today due to elivated iron in the blood and I have not donated since I was in my mid 20s due to getting Hepatitis B from donating the first time...

    They say it's a good practice to do especially if you are over 40 but I dont know about ever 3 weeks.....maybe every 4-6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Phlebotomy
    Actually there are places that will do it. I have a prescription from my longevity doc and going to get it done today due to elivated iron in the blood and I have not donated since I was in my mid 20s due to getting Hepatitis B from donating the first time...

    They say it's a good practice to do especially if you are over 40 but I dont know about ever 3 weeks.....maybe every 4-6 months.
    Sorry to hear about you getting Hep B from donating blood. I donate so frequently because I am taking a lot of gear, and I don't let my RBC count go over 5.5. Loads of gear will cause your body to produce very high amounts of red blood cells.

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    Ok, I give. Here is my current cycle, but be warned: I strongly advise against anyone else following it.

    How long will it last? It wil last until I reach at least 260lbs+, which should not be long. My weight was 233lbs. today.

    These are weekly totals of every day injects:

    3.5 grams testosterone enanthate (500mg ed)
    1.2 grams deca-durabolin (180mg ed)
    875 mg trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (125mg ed)
    200 mg anadrol each day for 9 weeks
    14iu's GH each day (half am - half pm)
    30iu's humalog each day (half am - half pm)

    That works out to about 4mL of oil injects each day. I hit 3 different spots on each glute and quad for a total of 12 different sites. I rotate so I only hit each spot one time every six days with a max of 2mL in each site.

    I eat until I am almost uncomfortably full 6 times each day. Distended abs? Of course. Why? Because I eat like a horse. BF % < 12%

    Sore nips? A bit, but I had gyno when I was 13 years old, 3 years before I ever took AAS. No biggie.

    Full strict reps on the Smith machine today with 315lbs doing standing shoulder presses for 3 sets of 6. I am feeling really good.

    Favorite video: Dorian Yates - Blood and Guts

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    welcome back thunderin, im always looking forward to your valuable posts....good luck with the family addition

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    Kids are great, I wish you luck

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    Intresting. I was always told to never take generic HGH as the equipment to create the chemical is so expensive that if they got the money to make it they c an give it a brand name.

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    I have used both generic and pharmaceutical grade GH extensively, but I am using pharmaceutical grade now. It is stronger than generic.

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    My wife decided to wait until next year for us to have a baby and to finish her master's degree. I am perfectly fine with that as well. It has been 3 months since I finished my last cycle, and believe it or not, my blood work was near normal. So, I decided to celebrate with my good friends anadrol, test prop and tren ace. I am starting this cycle at 100kg, and with the GH 10iu's ed, Novalog 20iu's ed, test prop 250mg ed, tren ace 150mg ed and anadrol 100mg ed. If I eat like a horse, I will gain a minimum of 15kg within the next 6 weeks and should reach 120kg before reaching a plateau. Taking time off allows you to consolidate your gains when PCT is done properly, and I did not lose a pound. I gained weight in PCT. I may up my slin dosage.
    Last edited by thunderin; 05-07-2009 at 06:17 AM.

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    Five days into my cycle, my doctor wanted to run a thoracic CT scan on my lungs to be sure I am completely healthy since I stopped smoking 3 1/2 months ago (17 years of smoking a pack a day). I was terrified for sure. The results for my lungs came back fine, but one slide showed a calcification on my coronary artery. Terrified again. Both of my grandfathers died very young from heart attacks, and both of my parents have issues with cardiovascular disease. They did an angiogram on me with ultrasound by running a near one meter long catheter to my coronary artery through my radial artery near my wrist. Not a pleasant experience, but necessary to know. The doctor finished. Removed the catheter and said, &quot;It is a very mild calcification and the blockage is less than 10%.&quot; I am not religious, but in that moment I thanked God for sparing me from a much worse fate. The doctor could not find a reason why I have any blockage at all since my diet is very clean and my cardio and lifting are excellent. I have been in this game for over 28 years now, and it did not make sense. My ECG and stress tests were perfect. Then, he had me fast for 12 hours and ran a cholesterol test. My LDL was low, but my HDL was almost non-existant. So, they put me on a statin called Crestor and Niastin to boost my HDL. They said it is genetic. Over 40 years old, and only a 10% blockage. I am blessed. Please have a thorough heart check at least once per year. It could very well save your life.

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    Glad to see that Merc is back on the board. I want everyone to know that he was 100% correct by saying that esters do change how a hormone reacts with your body and not just the length of release. Case in point: testosterone suspension. Twice daily injects of test suspension of 50mg each, bloat me more than every other day injections of test prop at 300mg each. Fluctuations in hormone levels occur with both, and the volume of testosterone injected with the test prop is higher even when the prop ester is cleaved off. Moot point. Also, my libido and aggression are higher with test suspension than test prop. For me, it is very clear that testosterone is not testosterone regardless of the ester attached to it. Each estered or non-estered presentation are unique and varied. Thanks Merc.
    Last edited by thunderin; 05-24-2009 at 06:20 AM.

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    you need to get some pics up after this cycle!

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    how many hours between GH injections?

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    Happy to see you back around I always enjoy reading your posts.

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    Exclamation AAS Usage does not = Birth Control

    After running 5 months of aggressive PCT earlier this year, ending in June, and running a very heavy cycle since then, my wife is pregnant, again. My previous cycle had run for nearly 2 years. I was sure that it would not be an issue, but both of my children have now been conceived while I was on cycle. The doc said a man only needs a sperm count of 3 - 5 million to do the deed, if your wife is very fertile.

    Happy but shocked, and I was planning on coming off my current cycle to get her pregnant next June.

    I am just finishing up a cutting cycle, and I definitely have to admit I made some mistakes this time. I ran GH and slin throughout my PCT at high doses and got fat as crap. Then, I didn't watch diet closely enough while I was bulking, and my bf % stayed the same even though my weight went up drastically.

    So, after dieting down to where I was when I competed last year. I can honestly say, all my effort resulted in a mere 3 kg more of lean muscle this year than last.

    Guess, I don't have to come off cycle now.

    Live and learn. You can have all the best meds for bodybuilding in the world, but proper nutrition is more important than anything else. I remember someone here has that on their signature.

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    Awesome read. Thanks for the effort.

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