You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron!


Can you advice me how to create 2 phases cycle out of these products that i have?

I will take Danabol (through out the cycle) and PCT as a previous recommendation from you, so just put for me the injections together.

I have enough for more than 8 weeks of these products:

1- Testoviron Depot 250mg (100% legit)
2- Sustanon 250mg (100% legit)
3- Mastebolin 100mg (100% legit)
4- Boldebolin 250mg (not sure)
5- Nandrolone Deconate 2ml amp (not sure)
It's kind of confusing from my end but from what I gather I would run 1cc of test depot, 1 cc of sustanon, 1 cc of eq, and 1cc of deca weekly for first 8 week reload. Shoot test depot and eq together on monday and sustanon and deca together on thursday. Then back off to 1 cc of test depot for 2 week deload. For second 8 week reload do as you did the first reload and add in the pro-hormone masterbolan for the entire 8 weeks at the recommended dosage on the bottle.

Thanks!

above

[measuretwicecutonce]

Ronnie,

After running 3 cycles in a row, with 2 2 week cruises in-between, how are receptors looking?

[Jay-1000]

Hi Ron

Just want to say first off what a great read this whole thread has been! I've been working out now nautrally for over a decade, I'm 30 just for anyones info and bar the odd stupid and very uneducated oral cycle when I was in my mid twenties which I dont count in my training I'd become incredibly stagnated up until reading your thread and reseraching you on the net over the past 6 months. Its been a real eye opener reading your answers and the general feedback you've had from other guys posting on here so thanks for taking the time on here for us all.
My question for you is... I've recently just finished my first 20 week sling shot cycle composed of 500mg test E. and 500mg Eq (bad choice I know now). My reload should have gone up to 750mg of test but I held back for reasons below. My training over the twenty week period is probably the best its ever been due to the test I imagine and that I've followed your training regime religiously. Although I've not used the scales once in the twenty week period my lean body mass compared to when I started has been a quite remarkable I must say from just using the mirror as my guide. I dont know my exact body fat percentage before but I would hazzard a guess I was around 14% starting out and I probably finished up maybe around 10%. My stats are 5ft 9'' 184lbs currently. See photo attached. The problem I seem to have come across and I dont know if its just me being a bit green around the gills is that while on the cycle I noticed I was losing a substantial amount of hair from my scalp in the shower and on my pillow in the mornings, even running my hands through my hair at times.. I would guess three times the amount as to when I'm training naturally, it was that noticable. Now as far as I'm aware I certainly have no signs of male pattern baldness and I never have in fact I have very thick head of hair.
I know this must sound vain but I take great care in my apprearance as I'm sure most of the guys on here do but at the same time I don't want to risk a decent head of hair for an extra 15-20lbs of muscle. I have no desire to compete as of yet if ever given my current issue but I'd like to know from you is this something I am over worrying about? Now I know if your going to go bald its in your genes so I am willing to settle for that eventaully but if I can stop it from happening earlier then I'm going to like anyone. Basically is this something you see or get asked alot on? I know your not a fan of propecia and I second that with you as I don't want to screw my sex drive up as my girl friend would never forgive me! lol. At the same time though I feel like I really need to combat my DHT levels on or in my scalp region while cycling otheriwsue I think juicing I hate to say just isn't goin to be a life style choice for me is it.
Really hope you can lift the lid on this with as much advice as possible and any previous expierence with clients would be appreciated as I really dont want to give up cycling when I havent even really started...



Jay

[slimshady01]

Hi Ron

Just want to say first off what a great read this whole thread has been! I've been working out now nautrally for over a decade, I'm 30 just for anyones info and bar the odd stupid and very uneducated oral cycle when I was in my mid twenties which I dont count in my training I'd become incredibly stagnated up until reading your thread and reseraching you on the net over the past 6 months. Its been a real eye opener reading your answers and the general feedback you've had from other guys posting on here so thanks for taking the time on here for us all.
My question for you is... I've recently just finished my first 20 week sling shot cycle composed of 500mg test E. and 500mg Eq (bad choice I know now). My reload should have gone up to 750mg of test but I held back for reasons below. My training over the twenty week period is probably the best its ever been due to the test I imagine and that I've followed your training regime religiously. Although I've not used the scales once in the twenty week period my lean body mass compared to when I started has been a quite remarkable I must say from just using the mirror as my guide. I dont know my exact body fat percentage before but I would hazzard a guess I was around 14% starting out and I probably finished up maybe around 10%. My stats are 5ft 9'' 184lbs currently. See photo attached. The problem I seem to have come across and I dont know if its just me being a bit green around the gills is that while on the cycle I noticed I was losing a substantial amount of hair from my scalp in the shower and on my pillow in the mornings, even running my hands through my hair at times.. I would guess three times the amount as to when I'm training naturally, it was that noticable. Now as far as I'm aware I certainly have no signs of male pattern baldness and I never have in fact I have very thick head of hair.
I know this must sound vain but I take great care in my apprearance as I'm sure most of the guys on here do but at the same time I don't want to risk a decent head of hair for an extra 15-20lbs of muscle. I have no desire to compete as of yet if ever given my current issue but I'd like to know from you is this something I am over worrying about? Now I know if your going to go bald its in your genes so I am willing to settle for that eventaully but if I can stop it from happening earlier then I'm going to like anyone. Basically is this something you see or get asked alot on? I know your not a fan of propecia and I second that with you as I don't want to screw my sex drive up as my girl friend would never forgive me! lol. At the same time though I feel like I really need to combat my DHT levels on or in my scalp region while cycling otheriwsue I think juicing I hate to say just isn't goin to be a life style choice for me is it.
Really hope you can lift the lid on this with as much advice as possible and any previous expierence with clients would be appreciated as I really dont want to give up cycling when I havent even really started...

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Jay

Look solid bro good work!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ron

Just want to say first off what a great read this whole thread has been! I've been working out now nautrally for over a decade, I'm 30 just for anyones info and bar the odd stupid and very uneducated oral cycle when I was in my mid twenties which I dont count in my training I'd become incredibly stagnated up until reading your thread and reseraching you on the net over the past 6 months. Its been a real eye opener reading your answers and the general feedback you've had from other guys posting on here so thanks for taking the time on here for us all. THANK YOU!
My question for you is... I've recently just finished my first 20 week sling shot cycle composed of 500mg test E. and 500mg Eq (bad choice I know now). My reload should have gone up to 750mg of test but I held back for reasons below. My training over the twenty week period is probably the best its ever been due to the test I imagine and that I've followed your training regime religiously. Although I've not used the scales once in the twenty week period my lean body mass compared to when I started has been a quite remarkable I must say from just using the mirror as my guide. Yes! Using the mirror as opposed to the scales is the best approach! A lot of people gain fat and water and think it's lean muscle.I dont know my exact body fat percentage before but I would hazzard a guess I was around 14% starting out and I probably finished up maybe around 10%. My stats are 5ft 9'' 184lbs currently. See photo attached. The problem I seem to have come across and I dont know if its just me being a bit green around the gills is that while on the cycle I noticed I was losing a substantial amount of hair from my scalp in the shower and on my pillow in the mornings, even running my hands through my hair at times.. I would guess three times the amount as to when I'm training naturally, it was that noticable. Now as far as I'm aware I certainly have no signs of male pattern baldness and I never have in fact I have very thick head of hair.
I know this must sound vain but I take great care in my apprearance as I'm sure most of the guys on here do but at the same time I don't want to risk a decent head of hair for an extra 15-20lbs of muscle. I have no desire to compete as of yet if ever given my current issue but I'd like to know from you is this something I am over worrying about? Now I know if your going to go bald its in your genes so I am willing to settle for that eventaully but if I can stop it from happening earlier then I'm going to like anyone. Basically is this something you see or get asked alot on? YES! I know your not a fan of propecia and I second that with you as I don't want to screw my sex drive up as my girl friend would never forgive me! lol. At the same time though I feel like I really need to combat my DHT levels on or in my scalp region while cycling otheriwsue I think juicing I hate to say just isn't goin to be a life style choice for me is it.
Really hope you can lift the lid on this with as much advice as possible and any previous expierence with clients would be appreciated as I really dont want to give up cycling when I havent even really started...I would use 50-60 mgs of anavar per day as your main anabolic and keep test at 1/2 cc per week and then you should be fine. Steer clear of deca and propecia if you want a sex drive. Primobolan is another option but is often counterfeit and very expensive.



Jay

above..You look great!

[Jay-1000]

above..You look great!

Hi Ron thanks for the reply

Let me get this right only 125mg of test E a week given most ampules for test are rated at 250mg per ml? Surely thats going to produce such little gains it wouldn't be worth even cycling? Forgive me if I'm wrong but the average male produces 70-80mg a week of test naurally anyway dont they?
Also when using Anavar as you've suggested I've always been taught and researched to keep all other anabolics in your system under your test baseline. In this case would not using 50-60mg of Anavar ed not go against what everyone preaches?

[Ronnie Rowland]

O[QUOTE=Jay-1000;6341587]Hi Ron thanks for the reply

Let me get this right only 125mg of test E a week given most ampules for test are rated at 250mg per ml? Surely thats going to produce such little gains it wouldn't be worth even cycling? Forgive me if I'm wrong but the average male produces 70-80mg a week of test naurally anyway dont they? True! You need to be using a minimum of 500 mgs of some form of test weekly to make good gains in lean muscle whe using anavar. I have to take 200 mgs of test cypionate weekly just to keep me at TRT levels.
Also when using Anavar as you've suggested I've always been taught and researched to keep all other anabolics in your system under your test baseline. In this case would not using 50-60mg of Anavar ed not go against what everyone preaches? I agree that more test should be ran than anavar in most cases but, some find they do better using only TRT doses of test and high doses of other drugs such as tren. Some cannot handle the side effects of tren when moderate to high dosages of test are combined but do just fine when only TRT doses of test are used with their tren. There's no absolutes![/QUOTE]Above

[slimshady01]

http://www.hairloss-research.org/

Read this site bro , lots of natural alternatives to hairloss all backed with science.

[Jay-1000]

Thanks for the thumbs up and the link Slim I'll look into it. Appreciated. Looking sharpe yourself too!

[slimshady01]

Thanks Bro, Ive used their natural remedy for years after Propecia and never lost a single hair.. Since ive started gear 2 years ago its thinned a tad but holding on to most.. Im trying tren now so this ought to be a good test on how this works on a strong Androgen. If I see loss im off ASAP.

[Jay-1000]

Thanks Bro, Ive used their natural remedy for years after Propecia and never lost a single hair.. Since ive started gear 2 years ago its thinned a tad but holding on to most.. Im trying tren now so this ought to be a good test on how this works on a strong Androgen. If I see loss im off ASAP.

I have to ask what natural remedies have you run from that link then? Also how much test on average have you been running per week cycling as an average? Been reading up about the black tea link today. Sounds interesting but a lot of threads on Mpb saying it's a waste of time too though.

[slimshady01]

I have to ask what natural remedies have you run from that link then? Also how much test on average have you been running per week cycling as an average? Been reading up about the black tea link today. Sounds interesting but a lot of threads on Mpb saying it's a waste of time too though.

I tried to PM you so I didn't Hogg Ronnie's post but you can't receive any yet.

I've done up to 750 test.

I use ultra prostate , tocotrienals, curcumin and reseveratrol , black tea sometimes, msm and biotin.. Also fibroboost which isn't on there but google it.

PM me when u get enough posts

Oh Revita and nizoral 2% shampoo.

[Jay-1000]

I tried to PM you so I didn't Hogg Ronnie's post but you can't receive any yet.

I've done up to 750 test.

I use ultra prostate , tocotrienals, curcumin and reseveratrol , black tea sometimes, msm and biotin.. Also fibroboost which isn't on there but google it.

PM me when u get enough posts

Oh Revita and nizoral 2% shampoo.

In that case I better make some more posts! Sorry Ron

Thats really interesting how effective you've found them becasue I haven't read much else on here apart from the usual blurb you read about propecia and nizoral etc etc... so I'll keep reaearching. Thanks for the info again Slim. When I get enough posts I'll PM you.

[MisterD]

Ron,

Great Post......

I have a couple of questions so you can help me out.

my stats are
41 years old
167 lbs
5'-9"
19% BF

I have done a previous cutting cycle of triple stack for 2 months when I was 26% BF and went down to 17% BF. It was Prop, Tren and Masteron. This was 1 year ago

I normally run TRT at 1/2 to 3/4 Test once EW.

2 months ago I did 1/2 cc of Prop and 1/2 cc of Tren Mondays and Thursdays total 200mg EW and dieted real well and drop back down to 19% BF. When I saw that I shred pretty good with my diet and working out, i decided to bulk up for Jan and Feb then do a cutting cycle right after. The STS program seems to work well for me so I can bulk then run another blast and cut.

I started on Jan 1, Monday which was 100mg of Prop and 1cc of T400
My Next shot was Wed with 100mg of Prop
And I was planning for Friday 1cc of Equipose which its 300 or 350mg I have to check.

My questions are:
When I was running the 200mg of Prop 2 months ago should I have done a PCT or a Prime when I finished and started Jan 1?
Is Prop, T400 and Equipose good for Bulking?
Is the amount Im taking ok for maximum results?
If Test E better with Equipose I dont mind changing over ( less pinning I figure)
I want to maximise my growth will Im on the blast, do you recommend hitting the muscles 2 times a week as in your 5 day 2 times work out?
I want to Bulk not really cut until the second blast, what are the percentages you recommend as a clean bulk 30% Protein, 40% Carbs, 30% Fats is that correct?

Also when I build up to the size I like what do you recommend as for maintenance, can we continue with a regular TRT and maybe a couple blast every year?

Thanks for your help.
D

[dj erk15]

Great read. Your the man!

[MisterD]

Hey guys looks like Ron is out for awhile, maybe someone can help me with a couple of questions.

Im in the first week of the STS blast and im currently taking
300mg of Propanaite A.. EOD
400mg of T400 1cc . Which is 200mg of Cioponate and 200 of Enethate 1 EW
300mg of Equipose 1cc EW.

Normally Ron recommends 750 of Test a week added with another compound like Deca, Tren or Eq.
Does the short ester test like Prop added to the total test im taking? Or should i be adding more of the T400 per week?
And also should i raise the EQ to like 450 EW.
And lastly when we add up all the carbs and protien we eat per meal, i take 50g of Dextrose and 60g of Protien. Do those get added to our daily compsuption of Carbs and Protein like if it was a meal.

Thanks
D

[>Good Luck<]

Hey guys looks like Ron is out for awhile, maybe someone can help me with a couple of questions.

Im in the first week of the STS blast and im currently taking
300mg of Propanaite A.. EOD
400mg of T400 1cc . Which is 200mg of Cioponate and 200 of Enethate 1 EW
300mg of Equipose 1cc EW.

Normally Ron recommends 750 of Test a week added with another compound like Deca, Tren or Eq.
Does the short ester test like Prop added to the total test im taking? Or should i be adding more of the T400 per week?
And also should i raise the EQ to like 450 EW.
And lastly when we add up all the carbs and protien we eat per meal, i take 50g of Dextrose and 60g of Protien. Do those get added to our daily compsuption of Carbs and Protein like if it was a meal.

Thanks
D

Hey misterD,

I've also noticed rons absence... Hope he's doing well.

I'm a little confused about your cycle. U stated u shoot 300mg prop a? What is prop a? And if your shooting 300mg eod that's over a gram per week of just prop! That's a pretty high dose as it is added to the other test blend you have injected. It's just like sustanon, it will become a blend in your system.

Also IMO, eq is a waste and the negative sides outweigh the gains, however- I believe eq is said to be best doses between 400-600mg weekly but more than 600 would yeild no better gains.

In regards to your diet question, yes- add the Cals to your daily total. They are in fact Cals in, however you ingest them

Hope I was able to help, cheers

[MisterD]

Good Luck,

What are the negative sides to Equipose. I have always read its pretty safe and doesnt bloat as much as the Deca.

Cheers
D

[>Good Luck<]

Good Luck,

What are the negative sides to Equipose. I have always read its pretty safe and doesnt bloat as much as the Deca.

Cheers
D

Eq has an incredible capability to raise Red blood cell count much more than any other steroid. This will leave you looking vascular, but not for being low bf, but rather high blood pressure. Many people choose to donate blood to counteract the heightened Rbc count.

Secondly it will increase appetite which is ok for people having trouble getting the food down but bad for people who already are eating above maintenance- because you'll be extra hungry even above maintenance

[Ronnie Rowland]

Eq has an incredible capability to raise Red blood cell count much more than any other steroid. This will leave you looking vascular, but not for being low bf, but rather high blood pressure. Many people choose to donate blood to counteract the heightened Rbc count. This is true!

Secondly it will increase appetite which is ok for people having trouble getting the food down but bad for people who already are eating above maintenance- because you'll be extra hungry even above maintenance This is not always true. EQ actually decreases some people's appetite and causes them to have severe anxiety!Tren usually increases appetite more than EQ-hence the reason they give it to cattle before the slaughter.

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

good luck,

what are the negative sides to equipose. high blood pressure due to an increase in hematocratic levels, anxiety, and increase or decrease in appetite. Some also experience a decrease in sex drive but nothing like deca. have always read its pretty safe and doesnt bloat as much as the deca.

Cheers
d

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey misterD,

I've also noticed rons absence... Hope he's doing well.

I'm a little confused about your cycle. U stated u shoot 300mg prop a? What is prop a? And if your shooting 300mg eod that's over a gram per week of just prop! That's a pretty high dose as it is added to the other test blend you have injected. It's just like sustanon, it will become a blend in your system.

Also IMO, eq is a waste and the negative sides outweigh the gains, however- I believe eq is said to be best doses between 400-600mg weekly but more than 600 would yeild no better gains.

In regards to your diet question, yes- add the Cals to your daily total. They are in fact Cals in, however you ingest them

Hope I was able to help, cheers

Sorry for my absense. I was pre-occupied writing a handbook for PREMIER FITNESS-- (personal training company).

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey guys looks like ron is out for awhile, maybe someone can help me with a couple of questions.

Im in the first week of the sts blast and im currently taking
300mg of propanaite a.. Eod
400mg of t400 1cc . Which is 200mg of cioponate and 200 of enethate 1f you are going to run all three compounds i suggest mixing 1cc of test prop, 1cc of t400 and 1cc of eq in the same syringe and inject mon/wed/fri. That's a 3cc shot on monday,wednesday, and friday. That will put size on you! You need 800-1000 mgs of eq weekly to get a good effect.
300mg of equipose 1cc ew.

Normally ron recommends 750 of test a week added with another compound like deca, tren or eq.
Does the short ester test like prop added to the total test im taking? Or should i be adding more of the t400 per week?
And also should i raise the eq to like 450 ew.
And lastly when we add up all the carbs and protien we eat per meal, i take 50g of dextrose and 60g of protien. Do those get added to our daily compsuption of carbs and protein like if it was a meal. yes!

thanks
d

above

[MisterD]

Good Luck,

Sorry for the confusion....

I take 100mg of Test Proponate EOD, so 300 a week.

After reading alot of Rons suggestion I think im just going to switch over next week to:

750mg of Enethate EW
450mg of Equipose EW
30-50mg of D Bol ED
300mg of Masteron for AI cause i tend to get sore nipples. I normally take Arimidex however i do feel my joints getting a little dry.

Possibly for my second blast i will switch to Deca for my joints instead of Equipose.

Let me know what u think.

Thanks
D

[>Good Luck<]

Good Luck,

Sorry for the confusion....

I take 100mg of Test Proponate EOD, so 300 a week.

After reading alot of Rons suggestion I think im just going to switch over next week to:

750mg of Enethate EW
450mg of Equipose EW
30-50mg of D Bol ED
300mg of Masteron for AI cause i tend to get sore nipples. I normally take Arimidex however i do feel my joints getting a little dry.

Possibly for my second blast i will switch to Deca for my joints instead of Equipose.

Let me know what u think.

Thanks
D

Looks like a solid cycle but I'm no guru, Ron is
Your best bet would be to do blood work to check all levels. Estrogen can be tricky to manage as everyone is a little different.

[MisterD]

GoodLuck,

Well the good thing is that Im bulking on this blast so i wouldn't mind the extra appetite

Now as for donating blood is that a monthly thing or do people actually get tested when there on there cycle. I have always done my blood work but after my cycle for my regular check up and TRT.

I really wanted DECA for this blast but they told me I would retain less water on EQ.

So my plan was to blast this cycle with bulking compounds then do another cycle to cut down.

What you think?

Thanks
D

[>Good Luck<]

GoodLuck,

Well the good thing is that Im bulking on this blast so i wouldn't mind the extra appetite

Now as for donating blood is that a monthly thing or do people actually get tested when there on there cycle. I have always done my blood work but after my cycle for my regular check up and TRT.

I really wanted DECA for this blast but they told me I would retain less water on EQ.

So my plan was to blast this cycle with bulking compounds then do another cycle to cut down.

What you think?

Thanks
D

Maybe this will help...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...)#.UOy0ehp5mc0

I'm not sure what you expect to gain off boldenone... Notice the last 4 letters...that's what you'll gain... NONE

If you want to gain mass and not retain water, drop the dbol and substitute for tbol, var, or no orals at all. And I'm sure you've heard of Tren. Even low doses (250mg) of Tren would be better than eq IMHO

[Ronnie Rowland]

goodluck,

well the good thing is that im bulking on this blast so i wouldn't mind the extra appetite

now as for donating blood is that a monthly thing or do people actually get tested when there on there cycle. I have always done my blood work but after my cycle for my regular check up and trt.

I really wanted deca for this blast but they told me i would retain less water on eq.

So my plan was to blast this cycle with bulking compounds then do another cycle to cut down.

What you think? since you are bulking i would not worry about water retention unless it causes your blood pressure/estrogen to get too high. It's true that eq causes less water than deca but for maximum size you need to add an oral with the injectables. Anavar or t-bol is good if you do not want to hold water. Most opt to use test/tren/d-bol for gaining maximal size when bulking.

Thanks
d

above

[MisterD]

Man it's crazy how mix reviews on each different steroids.

Some like EQ but the majority hate it....

Most like DECO but also you see mix reviews.

Same as Dbol and Tbol they go both ways.

My opinion on Tren, I personally love it. Did a small cycle to cut BF and it ripped me up. I did it as a triple stack with Prob, Mast and Tren. I never got the Tren cough and was Horny as a bunny rabbit although I had to sleep with 3 towels due to the sweeting, I didn't mind it though.

See the funny thing is that I wanted to find the perfect cycle to bulk then do a cycle with Prop, Tren, Var and Mast to cut.

I'm not looking to gain mass amounts of muscle but just enough to gain some more size on legs and chest.

Now I have seen some threads that some guys bulk with Tren but it looks like its not the norm.

Please help me out brother,

D

[>Good Luck<]

Man it's crazy how mix reviews on each different steroids.

Some like EQ but the majority hate it....

Most like DECO but also you see mix reviews.

Same as Dbol and Tbol they go both ways.

My opinion on Tren, I personally love it. Did a small cycle to cut BF and it ripped me up. I did it as a triple stack with Prob, Mast and Tren. I never got the Tren cough and was Horny as a bunny rabbit although I had to sleep with 3 towels due to the sweeting, I didn't mind it though.

See the funny thing is that I wanted to find the perfect cycle to bulk then do a cycle with Prop, Tren, Var and Mast to cut.

I'm not looking to gain mass amounts of muscle but just enough to gain some more size on legs and chest.

Now I have seen some threads that some guys bulk with Tren but it looks like its not the norm.

Please help me out brother,

D

My friend, we are all learning and you'll alway see different opinions. Like any other subject, majority usually rules.

Check out this thread - start from the first post. Atomini has a way of making it make sense

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!

[dally_de]

WOW Ron, awesome thread... it is 4 consecutive days that i am reading this thread ,but i have decided to write not because i do not fully understand all the terms in here and it could be just more ideal if i just ask your advice ...
i am 30 year old man ,loving this sport and practicing it for almost 12 years ( do not ask me for diet and protein intake and all that ) ) i am 1.83cm tall and 92kg, bf probably around 15-20% ..in the past 3 years i was on/off gym because of work and now from about 2months i am back on and planning to stay..in all this time i did 3 cycles of sustanon 250 for 8 weeks each with decent gains . i want to start another 20week cycle but my problem now is that i have tooooo much information from here that i can't decide what would be best to proceed ...i would like that first reload to be a bulk cycle and in the second to include a cutting product as well (not sure how to proceed with the cutting/lean mass cycle


i am thinking at this :
reload: test e 500mg /week - week 1-8
deca 400mg /week - week 1-8/ or EQ 200mg?

deload: test E 250mg/week week 9-10

reload: test E 750mg/week w11-18
masteron 200mg/week 11-18 ???? (for cutting ) ??


pct : PCT: Weeks 20-21
hCG at 2500 iu eod for 2 weeks
clomid at 50 mgs once per day for 4 weeks
nolva 20 mgs per day for 4 week

thank you Ron ...

[Ronnie Rowland]

wow ron, awesome thread... It is 4 consecutive days that i am reading this thread ,but i have decided to write not because i do not fully understand all the terms in here and it could be just more ideal if i just ask your advice ...
I am 30 year old man ,loving this sport and practicing it for almost 12 years ( do not ask me for diet and protein intake and all that ) ) i am 1.83cm tall and 92kg, bf probably around 15-20% ..in the past 3 years i was on/off gym because of work and now from about 2months i am back on and planning to stay..in all this time i did 3 cycles of sustanon 250 for 8 weeks each with decent gains . I want to start another 20week cycle but my problem now is that i have tooooo much information from here that i can't decide what would be best to proceed ...i would like that first reload to be a bulk cycle and in the second to include a cutting product as well (not sure how to proceed with the cutting/lean mass cycle


i am thinking at this :
Reload: Test e 500mg /week - week 1-8
deca 400mg /week - week 1-8/ or eq 200mg? i would just run a gram of test weekly and forget the deca and eq!
deload: Test e 250mg/week week 9-10

reload: Test e 750mg/week w11-18
masteron 200mg/week 11-18 ???? (for cutting ) ?? i would add anavar with this combo at 40 mgs per day for better ersults. Increase masterone to 400 mgs weekly if you want to hold less water!

pct : Pct: Weeks 20-21
hcg at 2500 iu eod for 2 weeks make it 3 weeks!
clomid at 50 mgs once per day for 4 weeks optional
nolva 20 mgs per day for 4 week keep

thank you ron ...

above

[dally_de]

" Quote Originally Posted by dally_de View Post
wow ron, awesome thread... It is 4 consecutive days that i am reading this thread ,but i have decided to write not because i do not fully understand all the terms in here and it could be just more ideal if i just ask your advice ...
I am 30 year old man ,loving this sport and practicing it for almost 12 years ( do not ask me for diet and protein intake and all that ) ) i am 1.83cm tall and 92kg, bf probably around 15-20% ..in the past 3 years i was on/off gym because of work and now from about 2months i am back on and planning to stay..in all this time i did 3 cycles of sustanon 250 for 8 weeks each with decent gains . I want to start another 20week cycle but my problem now is that i have tooooo much information from here that i can't decide what would be best to proceed ...i would like that first reload to be a bulk cycle and in the second to include a cutting product as well (not sure how to proceed with the cutting/lean mass cycle


i am thinking at this :
Reload: Test e 500mg /week - week 1-8
deca 400mg /week - week 1-8/ or eq 200mg? i would just run a gram of test weekly and forget the deca and eq!
deload: Test e 250mg/week week 9-10

reload: Test e 750mg/week w11-18
masteron 200mg/week 11-18 ???? (for cutting ) ?? i would add anavar with this combo at 40 mgs per day for better ersults. Increase masterone to 400 mgs weekly if you want to hold less water!

pct : Pct: Weeks 20-21
hcg at 2500 iu eod for 2 weeks make it 3 weeks!
clomid at 50 mgs once per day for 4 weeks optional
nolva 20 mgs per day for 4 week keep

thank you ron ... "


thank you Ron for reply...

I am kinda worry to go at this time to 1g of test e so i was thinking:

week 1-8 test e 500mg
week 9-10 test e 250mg
1 :week 11-18 test e 750mg
anavar 40mg/day
shoul i include here masteron 400mg/week or it is mandatorry??
or :

2: week 11-18 test E 500mg/week
tren E 200mg/week

witch one would you think that it would be a better choice for second reload ?

should i use 10mg of nolva ed durring the cycle ( arimidex i can't find over here)??

hcg could not find only in 5000u.i ...can i inject half and keep it in the fridge ???

thank you allot...

[Ronnie Rowland]

" Quote Originally Posted by dally_de View Post
wow ron, awesome thread... It is 4 consecutive days that i am reading this thread ,but i have decided to write not because i do not fully understand all the terms in here and it could be just more ideal if i just ask your advice ...
I am 30 year old man ,loving this sport and practicing it for almost 12 years ( do not ask me for diet and protein intake and all that ) ) i am 1.83cm tall and 92kg, bf probably around 15-20% ..in the past 3 years i was on/off gym because of work and now from about 2months i am back on and planning to stay..in all this time i did 3 cycles of sustanon 250 for 8 weeks each with decent gains . I want to start another 20week cycle but my problem now is that i have tooooo much information from here that i can't decide what would be best to proceed ...i would like that first reload to be a bulk cycle and in the second to include a cutting product as well (not sure how to proceed with the cutting/lean mass cycle


i am thinking at this :
Reload: Test e 500mg /week - week 1-8
deca 400mg /week - week 1-8/ or eq 200mg? i would just run a gram of test weekly and forget the deca and eq!
deload: Test e 250mg/week week 9-10

reload: Test e 750mg/week w11-18
masteron 200mg/week 11-18 ???? (for cutting ) ?? i would add anavar with this combo at 40 mgs per day for better ersults. Increase masterone to 400 mgs weekly if you want to hold less water!

pct : Pct: Weeks 20-21
hcg at 2500 iu eod for 2 weeks make it 3 weeks!
clomid at 50 mgs once per day for 4 weeks optional
nolva 20 mgs per day for 4 week keep

thank you ron ... "


thank you Ron for reply...

I am kinda worry to go at this time to 1g of test e so i was thinking:

week 1-8 test e 500mg
week 9-10 test e 250mg
1 :week 11-18 test e 750mg
anavar 40mg/day
shoul i include here masteron 400mg/week or it is mandatorry?? I would add 300 mgs of masteron to both 8 week reloads for estrogen control.or :

2: week 11-18 test E 500mg/week
tren E 200mg/week

witch one would you think that it would be a better choice for second reload ? test/tren/mast for second relaod would be best. Add in some anavar and you will get even strogner/harder.
should i use 10mg of nolva ed durring the cycle ( arimidex i can't find over here)?? Keep nolvadex on hand in case masterone is not enough. Some people love a nolvadex/ masterone combo during cutting phases to stay dry.
hcg could not find only in 5000u.i ...can i inject half and keep it in the fridge ???yes

thank you allot...

above

[daniel20]

Hi Ronnie, what would you recommend for a 2nd 20 week blast?
I can get ANY compounds. (Definitely want to stay away from deca though!)

Was thinking this however:
Week 1-8 Test E 750mg
Week 9-10 Test E 250mg

Week 11-18 Test E 1g
Week 19-20 Test E 250mg

Week 21-23 HCG 2500iu EOD

I weight 205lb at ~8% bf and for my next blast I will be consuming around 400g protein, 250g carb and 70g fat. Is there anything you would change? Up the carbs? I read you believe most only need 250-350g carbs a day.

Am I correct to start a 20 week blast 10 weeks post last cycle? (including pct).

Also my source has test e 600mg/ml! What are your thoughts on this?? Would save large volume injections!

Also what are your thoughts on 1-Test Cypionate?

Thanks again.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, what would you recommend for a 2nd 20 week blast?
I can get any compounds. (definitely want to stay away from deca though!)

was thinking this however:
Week 1-8 test e 750mg add 250 mgs of tren-e weekly
week 9-10 test e 250mg

week 11-18 test e 1g add 250 mgs of tren-e weekly and 25-50 mgs of d-bol daily
week 19-20 test e 250mg

week 21-23 hcg 2500iu eod looks good

i weight 205lb at ~8% bf and for my next blast i will be consuming around 400g protein, 250g carb and 70g fat. Is there anything you would change? Up the carbs? i would increase carbs to 350 daily and reduce protein to only 350 daily. i read you believe most only need 250-350g carbs a day.

Am i correct to start a 20 week blast 10 weeks post last cycle? (including pct). that will be fine. 6 weeks would have been even better if you are looking to make and keep maximal size gains.

also my source has test e 600mg/ml! What are your thoughts on this?? Would save large volume injections! too painful post injection for many due to potency but you may do okay. I would ony buy one bottle for now and give it a try. Get his normal blend to use first cycle and if the higher blend does not cause a negative reaction you can order it for use before starting your next reload. I normally recommned normal dosed gear.
also what are your thoughts on 1-test cypionate? very good!
thanks again.

above

[daniel20]

Originally Posted by daniel20
hi ronnie, what would you recommend for a 2nd 20 week blast?
I can get any compounds. (definitely want to stay away from deca though!)

was thinking this however:
Week 1-8 test e 750mg add 250 mgs of tren-e weekly
week 9-10 test e 250mg

week 11-18 test e 1g add 250 mgs of tren-e weekly and 25-50 mgs of d-bol daily
week 19-20 test e 250mg

week 21-23 hcg 2500iu eod looks good

i weight 205lb at ~8% bf and for my next blast i will be consuming around 400g protein, 250g carb and 70g fat. Is there anything you would change? Up the carbs? i would increase carbs to 350 daily and reduce protein to only 350 daily. i read you believe most only need 250-350g carbs a day.

Am i correct to start a 20 week blast 10 weeks post last cycle? (including pct). that will be fine. 6 weeks would have been even better if you are looking to make and keep maximal size gains.

also my source has test e 600mg/ml! What are your thoughts on this?? Would save large volume injections! too painful post injection for many due to potency but you may do okay. I would ony buy one bottle for now and give it a try. Get his normal blend to use first cycle and if the higher blend does not cause a negative reaction you can order it for use before starting your next reload. I normally recommned normal dosed gear.
also what are your thoughts on 1-test cypionate ? very good!
thanks again.
above.

Ok thanks Ronnie. I will add the tren e and then decide with the dbol for second reload.
What if I layed it out like this due to the added tren e:
Week 1-8 test e 500mg and 250 mgs of tren-e weekly
week 9-10 test e 250mg

week 11-18 test e 750mg and 375 mgs of tren-e weekly and 50 mgs of d-bol daily
week 19-20 test e 250mg

Do you recommend running caber with the tren e straight away at the start of cycle or just keep it on hand with aromasin?

Am thinking also I'll run HCG 250iu 2x week throughout this 20 week blast.

Also I've seen on another forum a pct protocol like this:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Aromasin 12.5EOD/12.5EOD/6.25EOD/6.25EOD
This would also be ran after blasting 500iu of HCG last week before commencing PCT.
What do you think of this plan?

Thanks again.

[MisterD]

Daniel20

Hey im looking into using Aromasin any good sources on the internet. I went to my local Pharmacy and they wanted 100 bucks for like 10 pills, crazy!!!

Thanks
D

[>Good Luck<]

Daniel20

Hey im looking into using Aromasin any good sources on the internet. I went to my local Pharmacy and they wanted 100 bucks for like 10 pills, crazy!!!

Thanks
D

Not a source board bro. If arr doesn't carry it your sol

[The Titan99]

Daniel20

Hey im looking into using Aromasin any good sources on the internet. I went to my local Pharmacy and they wanted 100 bucks for like 10 pills, crazy!!!

Thanks
D

Yea, I live in Thailand and they wanted 200 USD for 20 one mg Adex tabs!! WTF!!!