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    ^^ i lifted my 3 day split.. Zero cardio.. Wats the point? If im eatn 7500-10000 cals what difference was 500gonna make?? And for all that work and wasted time screw that!! Lol..

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    whew! first day back since the cruise in the gym.. finally!

    chest/lats

    felt good to hit it hard. i had plenty of carbs/glycogen in me thats for sure..

    weighed in at the gym at 210lbs up from 195 2 weeks ago LOL... itll be time to cut this fat i gained off here soon.. im not extremely in a hurry to transition into a deficit to be honest... 14 days of balls to the wall eating plus no cardio has been nice. it is nice to be able to gain 15 lbs of probably mostly fat and still look pretty dang good! can still see some abs.. look very full thats for sure. look bigger i suppose and draw some attention when i lift. of course it seems i draw attention no matter where i go or what im wearing. will probably wait until next monday to really start cutting this fat.

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    Well here it is monday! Back on the diet with some fat to lose im actually looking forward to t as eating all this junk for 19 days got to be work!! Believe it or not..

    Wats funny is my bf% cant be more than 15% yet i weigh 2lbs more than when i started my original cut in 2011 at 26.6%

    Man do i look different at this same weight. When i get to a puter ill post a pic

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    Well here it is monday! Back on the diet with some fat to lose im actually looking forward to t as eating all this junk for 19 days got to be work!! Believe it or not..

    Wats funny is my bf% cant be more than 15% yet i weigh 2lbs more than when i started my original cut in 2011 at 26.6%

    Man do i look different at this same weight. When i get to a puter ill post a pic
    welcome back big guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    Well here it is monday! Back on the diet with some fat to lose im actually looking forward to t as eating all this junk for 19 days got to be work!! Believe it or not..

    Wats funny is my bf% cant be more than 15% yet i weigh 2lbs more than when i started my original cut in 2011 at 26.6%

    Man do i look different at this same weight. When i get to a puter ill post a pic
    glad to see you are back at it and that carnvial had a one good boat left!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    glad to see you are back at it and that carnvial had a one good boat left!
    I dont sail carnival (turns my nose up)... But thx anyways !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    Well here it is monday! Back on the diet with some fat to lose im actually looking forward to t as eating all this junk for 19 days got to be work!! Believe it or not..

    Wats funny is my bf% cant be more than 15% yet i weigh 2lbs more than when i started my original cut in 2011 at 26.6%

    Man do i look different at this same weight. When i get to a puter ill post a pic
    time to get at it

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    Thx dudes!!

    Lunch: legs!!!

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    Glad your back and that was some serious fat gain
    Enjoy the IF. I may give it a go one day.

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    well first week of dieting went pretty good. i have not been doing a lot of cardio and could use to increase it but dont know if i will because im feeling particularly lazy at the moment with regards to diet and cardio.. im doing it 2 out of every 3 days but in the past i was hitting it 2 x per day so by lazy i mean im only doing it once.

    yesterday shouldve been a training day but i was lazy and didnt leave the house, but i did eat my training day diet (somewhat).. i wont train aGAIN now until wednesday.. seem to have dropped some fat this week.

    id like to say after my first week back on the diet and all that my weight comes out at 204lbs, so not as much of a gain as i had previously thought, but i did know a fair amount would come off after that first diet week due to water and stuff..

    my starting weight was like 195-197lbs so im only 7-9lbs heavier than pre vacay

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    well first week of dieting went pretty good. i have not been doing a lot of cardio and could use to increase it but dont know if i will because im feeling particularly lazy at the moment with regards to diet and cardio.. im doing it 2 out of every 3 days but in the past i was hitting it 2 x per day so by lazy i mean im only doing it once.

    yesterday shouldve been a training day but i was lazy and didnt leave the house, but i did eat my training day diet (somewhat).. i wont train aGAIN now until wednesday.. seem to have dropped some fat this week.

    id like to say after my first week back on the diet and all that my weight comes out at 204lbs, so not as much of a gain as i had previously thought, but i did know a fair amount would come off after that first diet week due to water and stuff..

    my starting weight was like 195-197lbs so im only 7-9lbs heavier than pre vacay
    the first week back after a holiday is always "lazy" for me also.......good to know your weight didn't go up to much mate........whats your next goal? more size? get leaner? train for an iron man contest? lol

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    Could cardio 2xday actually work against you by cutting into your lean mass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by energizer bunny View Post
    the first week back after a holiday is always "lazy" for me also.......good to know your weight didn't go up to much mate........whats your next goal? more size? get leaner? train for an iron man contest? lol
    LOL.. not sure, lean back out then prob cycle..
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    Could cardio 2xday actually work against you by cutting into your lean mass?
    it could, but has not proven to do so too much with me. before losing fat was a major priority in an expedient fashion so it was worth the risk, this time im not in such a hurry .. im also eating more now too though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    LOL.. not sure, lean back out then prob cycle..
    cycle......sounds interesting, what are you planning on using? with your dedication to diet, you will most certainly get huge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    LOL.. not sure, lean back out then prob cycle..

    it could, but has not proven to do so too much with me. before losing fat was a major priority in an expedient fashion so it was worth the risk, this time im not in such a hurry .. im also eating more now too though..
    I've been thinking of 2x a day on non lifting days but not sure how it'll work for me. So far I have been able to increase my lean but would sure like to lose fat quicker. I'll know better at the end of the month when I go to the bod pod and see how things are shaking out.

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    test only.. maybe 4-6 weeks var at the end, but most likely test only

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    I have been on 2 vacations in the past 2 months ... 7 days in Jamaica and 7 days in the mountains of Tennessee dragging knees. I managed to workout pretty hard during both vacations to offset the heavy drinking and moderate eating. I gained 7 pound in Jamaica and took it off in 2 weeks then only gained 2 pounds in TN. Just got home Friday.

    I am going to have to go hardcore for the next month to achieve my goal. I am back to documenting everything I eat and am considering hiring one of the trainers at the gym. She is attractive and might help me dig deep into myself for motivation !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhoag View Post
    I have been on 2 vacations in the past 2 months ... 7 days in Jamaica and 7 days in the mountains of Tennessee dragging knees. I managed to workout pretty hard during both vacations to offset the heavy drinking and moderate eating. I gained 7 pound in Jamaica and took it off in 2 weeks then only gained 2 pounds in TN. Just got home Friday.

    I am going to have to go hardcore for the next month to achieve my goal. I am back to documenting everything I eat and am considering hiring one of the trainers at the gym. She is attractive and might help me dig deep into myself for motivation !!!
    Is that you in your avatar? That's just about the exact look I'm working for!

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    well this is my first week back on 100%compliance with the diet as well as incorporating 2x per day cardio and i have revised my training schedule to getting upper/lower done in 2 workouts instead of a 3 day split. today was the first training day with this revision and maintaining HIT style training while working chest, lats, shoulders, deadlifts was freaking brutal and i was totally spent PWO.. ill have to include traps on lower days and i wqas too spent to do any ab work. i may end up adjusting back to regular training (non-HIT) until i have achieved my desired bf% as i dont know with the caloric deficit if ill be able to maintain it for 8 weeks.. (or however long it takes).

    i am already shedding body fat and the abs are coming back in so thats good looking pretty beastly fat or no fat! its funny i am not a bad looking fat guy now!

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    Still waiting for that pic buddy!

    Glad you had a good holiday, the Mrs wants me to book a cruise for our holiday this year. I've only done one before and I ate so much damn food!!

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    And your cycle starts...........?
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    when i get to 9% (BOD POD) unless i think i can go further! gonna try to use this cut as a sort of prime as well. basically the same concept i gather is it not? go strait from a hard cut to a bulk cycle??

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
    when i get to 9% (BOD POD) unless i think i can go further! gonna try to use this cut as a sort of prime as well. basically the same concept i gather is it not? go strait from a hard cut to a bulk cycle??
    Hard cut? Maybe. I didn't, I did 3 days with 30% less carbs than I was having then on the 4th day 10% more. TBH i think you'd be pleasantly surprised at how you would gain LBM and lose fat on a cycle. Or turn fat into muscle or whatever miracle it is you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Hard cut? Maybe. I didn't, I did 3 days with 30% less carbs than I was having then on the 4th day 10% more. TBH i think you'd be pleasantly surprised at how you would gain LBM and lose fat on a cycle. Or turn fat into muscle or whatever miracle it is you do
    LOL.. yeh, well im probably 13-14%bf right now. i want to have that 5% to play with where i dont end up getting fatter than i am now 4weeks in and have to choose between reducing my cals and the aggressiveness of my bulk or get fatter!

    i dont like being fat man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

    Hard cut? Maybe. I didn't, I did 3 days with 30% less carbs than I was having then on the 4th day 10% more. TBH i think you'd be pleasantly surprised at how you would gain LBM and lose fat on a cycle. Or turn fat into muscle or whatever miracle it is you do
    x2 on the leaning out on cycle....abs came in beautifully when I was on

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82 View Post
    x2 on the leaning out on cycle....abs came in beautifully when I was on

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    interesting.. well i certainly hope this is the case.. maybe 4-5 weeks of var at the end will assist.. i suppose ill leave that for next year though.

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    do you have a before and after shot?>

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    well down to 202-203 lbs today.. so im losing the fat prob around 11-12% right now. had a weird hypoglycemic moment yesterday. i fast 2 days in a row and dont eat until 1900 or so and yesterday around 1700 started feeling a bit "funny" and shaky and came home and had to eat a couple handfuls cereal, oats, and some milk.. then did my cardio. this has happened before but not very often, sometimes i just push thru it as the symptoms are not usually very strong. hopefully this is just an every so often thing ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    well down to 202-203 lbs today.. so im losing the fat prob around 11-12% right now. had a weird hypoglycemic moment yesterday. i fast 2 days in a row and dont eat until 1900 or so and yesterday around 1700 started feeling a bit "funny" and shaky and came home and had to eat a couple handfuls cereal, oats, and some milk.. then did my cardio. this has happened before but not very often, sometimes i just push thru it as the symptoms are not usually very strong. hopefully this is just an every so often thing ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel

    It's your body saying "WTF" are you doing to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    well down to 202-203 lbs today.. so im losing the fat prob around 11-12% right now. had a weird hypoglycemic moment yesterday. i fast 2 days in a row and dont eat until 1900 or so and yesterday around 1700 started feeling a bit "funny" and shaky and came home and had to eat a couple handfuls cereal, oats, and some milk.. then did my cardio. this has happened before but not very often, sometimes i just push thru it as the symptoms are not usually very strong. hopefully this is just an every so often thing ..
    Yea, quickly going hypoglycemic scares the hell outta me. A few times, I thought I was going to die...until I ate a half box of girl scout cookies. Then I get sick to my stomach and lose all energy for an hour, or so. Hopefully for you, this was a freak occurance and won't happen again.
    Btw, damn you. You look great in your new avi!
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    214lbs
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    176.2lbs LBM

    Gonna take at least 12 weeks, probably 16

    Well at least i know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    214lbs
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    176.2lbs LBM

    Gonna take at least 12 weeks, probably 16

    Well at least i know!
    will your plan look the same as the last one?

    EOD fasting still I assume

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    will your plan look the same as the last one?

    EOD fasting still I assume
    That is correct sir..

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    i never liked that movie!

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    well i thought id post in my thread today and thought it woulda been on page 2 by now.. i found it at the very bottom of page 1. the last thread hanging on for dear life!

    excellent PWO meal today:
    1 pound beef
    1 whole onion
    3/4 cup (dry) brn rice
    all in a big bowl eaten with a big spoon

    100g pro
    100g carbs
    20g fat..

    a very satisfying meal!
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    Looking good. I usually add some red pepper instead of onions.

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    Bump for Damien05

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    i was just thinking i needed a bump thx! will be cutting monday..

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