Thread: Slin for lagging body part only?
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01-07-2005, 01:14 PM #1
Slin for lagging body part only?
So lets say you have a lagging body part that is a huge muscle.... quads for example... Could one, if so inclined, just shoot slin PWO on quad day only? That way they would bring that part up more where they want, and still keep the same size upper body. Try to get the proportions better.... Because if slin or anything is used ED they would still be in the same boat... ok ok that person is me, sue me See what I am getting at? And over what duration could this be done?
-MS
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01-07-2005, 03:33 PM #2
Slin leaves the wound area sooner then LR3, a worked muscle is broke down or a wound area. That's why hIGF-1 is used in worked muscles, so they can attach to the IGF-1 receptors before IGF-1 BP binds it.
JohnnyB
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01-07-2005, 04:22 PM #3
JohnnyB you seem to be a pretty smart guy.... but I didn't grasp that... what is the answer? Could you use slin and IGF-1 on the day of a lagging body part to bring it up to par? (I'd actually use it for my quads, calves, chest and tris... but don't need it for bis, back or shoulders...
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01-07-2005, 04:52 PM #4
The whole idea of spot injection came from hIGF-1, because it gets bound by IGF-1 BP so fast, so you wanted to inject the muscle that was worked to take advantage of the simulated IGF-1 receptor. Slin and LR3 IGF-1 don't get bound like hIGF-1 does so spot injections aren't needed. In other words they will leave the worked muscle, where hIGF-1 won't.
You're are tearing your muscle fiber when you train, which to the body is a wound. The thing we call "the pump" is fluid going to that muscle to help with the healing process.
I hope that helped and didn't make it more complicated
JohnnyB
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01-07-2005, 07:24 PM #5
I guess I am a little slow too
Ok I wasnt talking about spot injections... I was talking about using slin on just quad day to help bring them to par with my upper body... As I feel I will always stay in the same proportion unless I just not work out hard on my upper body.... and there is no way I want to do that. So the insulin on quad day will rush nutriants to the quads only, thus makin them catch up so to speak. And I can go back to my regular lifestyle when its not quad day... see what I mean?
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01-07-2005, 11:59 PM #6
Shooting Insulin in one spot will not rush rush nutrients to that spot more than anywhere else and enhance that body part. Once Insulin has been injected, it is absorbed by your body all over, not only absorbed or absorbed more by the body part that you injected in. If Insulin enhanced the part of our body that we injected in more than anywhere else, my bicepts would be huge as I always inject slin IM in the bicept. So like I said, no matter where you inject Insulin, wether its Sub-Q or IM in the bicept, tricept etc, your body will equally absorb it all over.
There has been a few discussions in the past about injecting Insulin in a certain body part to enhance that body part, but I really think Insulin is the last kind of drug you want to use for purposes such as spot enhancing. Insulin is just a nutrient pusher that allows your body to be able to absorb more nutrients than usual a lot faster. That is its main purpose, not to enhance the body part you injected in.
-Gear
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01-08-2005, 12:03 AM #7
Guys I think you are not understanding what I am getting at here.... I know insulin has NO site specific growth, that was not what I was getting at.
Gear I wasnt talking about spot injections.... I was talking about shuttling nutriants to the quads because I worked them out on that day. Doing this would hypothetically be able to speed up recovery and thus add more size. Compared to the rest of my muscle groups that do not get insulin PWO... and FWIW I shoot slin in my tris... ED
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01-08-2005, 12:11 AM #8
In theory that sounds like it would work using slin to shuttle or force feed the cells more abundantly to the quads that day and not using slin on other training days. That would force the legs to grow more rapidly amongst growth over all. I understand that. Good thought.
Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
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01-08-2005, 12:26 AM #9Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
That is exaclty what I am saying... I think I will try it one day.
My question is this, because humalog is active ~3hours IM, how many weeks could one use insulin and only shoot once a week? Im thinking 8 no problem?
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01-08-2005, 12:31 AM #10Originally Posted by RedBaron
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01-08-2005, 12:25 PM #11Originally Posted by RedBaron
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01-08-2005, 01:06 PM #12
Here is my .02 from personal experience. Slin will have no effect on localized growth. If you did it one time per week or 5 times per week. Slin doesnt bind site specifically, it is going to enter the blood stream and disperse no matter if you injected it in the bi, tri, quad, calf, etc...
The reason hIGf-1 was mentioned is because it binds site specifically to the receptors and insulin will sustain this process longer.
Again, Insulin alone will do nothing for for bringing up laging body parts. If anybody can come up with some real data to back up th theory then I am all for listening.
If you want to increase the size of a lagging body part. From what I have read, test suspension and liquid d-bol will aid in this. Ihave never tried either of them but I have ran slin many times and igf-1r3 and shot locally on many body parts with no significant change in a lagging muscle group.abstrack@protonmail.com
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01-08-2005, 01:26 PM #13
Abstrack did you read the whole thread? I am not talking about localized growth...
The only thing that is site specific is pretty much any esterless gear...IGF-1... not LR3... I was not aware that liquid dbol would... you talking about revorbit? (sp?)
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01-08-2005, 01:42 PM #14Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
I cansee where you are coming form by thinking that if yur are tearing down and muscle on one day. By injecting insulin in that specific group; it should shuttle nutrients into that muscle faster and speed up recovery.
some UG labs make d-bol in liquid form but also revorbit could be used. I herd revorbit was painfull, but I have never used it??abstrack@protonmail.com
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01-08-2005, 01:55 PM #15Originally Posted by abstrack
So your saying use R-ala instead of slin? Or in conjuction with?
Right, I do shot slin in my quads, but only as a new place to shoot... I prefere tris and delts... Once slin hits the bloodstream is when it works.
I will never used dbol .... and I hear revorbit hurts like like a bitch!
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01-08-2005, 01:56 PM #16
I see what you're saying now
JohnnyB
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01-08-2005, 01:57 PM #17Originally Posted by JohnnyB
lol did you think I was talking about something way different?
Also what do you think about it?
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01-08-2005, 02:02 PM #18
Yes I thought spot injection, I can have a 1 track mind sometimes.
I think the idea sounds good, it's a new idea as far as I know.
JohnnyB
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01-08-2005, 02:06 PM #19Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Haha, its alright... from your response I could see that was what you were thinking, its all good
New idea??? woohoo I feel special.
Like I said before I will try this out and see how it goes... cant wait
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01-08-2005, 02:08 PM #20Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
I am not knocking your idea, I just have never in my own personal experienced noticed any site specif growth or site specific recovery; faster by shooting slin in that muscle trained.
Nothing wrong with with trying though.
You can use slin and R-ALA together! fo show!abstrack@protonmail.com
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01-08-2005, 02:16 PM #21Originally Posted by abstrack
JohnnyB
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01-08-2005, 02:29 PM #22Originally Posted by JohnnyBabstrack@protonmail.com
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01-08-2005, 03:35 PM #23
no not into the muscle worked that day just using slin on that day period and not other days so the quads will be force fed not like other days for other muscles.
Originally Posted by abstrack
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01-08-2005, 04:29 PM #24Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
On a side note he uses slin ED in his trisabstrack@protonmail.com
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01-08-2005, 04:42 PM #25Originally Posted by abstrack
haha thanks bro!
and sorry I didnt make this whole question a little more clear...
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01-08-2005, 05:01 PM #26Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkleabstrack@protonmail.com
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01-10-2005, 06:06 AM #27Originally Posted by Dfloodabstrack@protonmail.com
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01-10-2005, 07:13 AM #28Originally Posted by abstrack
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01-14-2005, 03:45 AM #29
LMAO... for the record Mr. Sparkle I had the exact same idea... never used any of it but if you only use it on the days that the body parts you want to grow at an accelerated rate... it should work in theory.. unless your body uses any of it better as it becomes accustomed to it... so if you even think about patening ANYTHING... your gonna have to share!!!! no really though.. this was the funniest thing I've ever read... i kept reading all the threads by all of the guys that were confused and then looking at their post counts expecting to see like 100 posts or something... and all of you are **** near VETS... lmao.. no really though.... nice post
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01-14-2005, 01:59 PM #30
Well I am getting a patent next week.... so if you want to use this method I reserve the right... so Its $10 to Mr.S... cash only...
I will try it later on... I have a few other things I want to try first... M1T... winny twice ED in my little calves... so we will see.
Thanks for the kind words... and I think all of the peeps that replied didnt fully read my thread... just replied to the topic question.... haha
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01-14-2005, 08:30 PM #31Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
Last edited by abstrack; 01-14-2005 at 09:18 PM.
abstrack@protonmail.com
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01-15-2005, 11:08 PM #32
That your all giant ****ing idiots and should give up the sport of bodybuilding!!!! hehehe... no no.. I'm just kidding... I was just amazed at how it was being misinterpreted... not meaning to be disrespectful or anything as I know I am far from being as knowledgable as most of you "**** near vets"....
Originally Posted by abstrack
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01-17-2005, 07:55 PM #33
this sounds like a good idea, i wanna try it on my chest day. ive never used slin b4 so i might have to try it this way. wut dose would u use if u only used it on chest day?
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01-17-2005, 08:27 PM #34Originally Posted by tycin
-Gear
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01-17-2005, 08:37 PM #35
ok thats wut i figured just making sure. thks.
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01-17-2005, 09:37 PM #36
If you are going to play with slin, use it every work out... I only feel that its good for one day only if its a HUGE muscle group... back or legs..... reason being is that they throw off your proportions if they are too small. Your chest wont do that... see what I mean?
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01-17-2005, 10:28 PM #37Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
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03-13-2005, 01:09 PM #38
I just wanted to bump this.....
I am going to do this for my quads after this next slin go around....
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03-13-2005, 09:46 PM #39Originally Posted by johan
Thanks for the info though!
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03-14-2005, 08:02 PM #40
Any one point me in the direction of a good total info post on INsulin - i've seen a few but don't know which to trust most
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