Deca / Winstrol????????

[firstinmia]

Wat do you guys think of wynstrol and deca 300 ????IS that a good or bad cycle????????????

[Nutz56]

...if people start bein sorta harsh on u bro, don't take it personal. but no, that's not a good cycle. search around for good cycles for a first cycle

[firstinmia]

Naw its my second........
The reason y im askiing is cause I started today on winstrol,and I have a complet bottle of deca left over from my last cycle.....

Why isnt it a good idea???

[longhorn814]

bad cycle. Spend some time on here doing research. I'll assume this is your first cycle do a search for first cycle or test only. It is not recommended to run deca or winny without test for lots of reasons

[longhorn814]

what was your first cycle? Test should be the base of every cycle. No test = no cycle. Deca and winny will shut down your natural test production and you will have no testosterone in your body

[firstinmia]

My first cycle was test enanthate deca ....

week
1-2 test 200mg
4-6 test 400 mg deca300mg

[dive_kid]

Why isnt it a good idea???

deca and winny will shut you down. as far as I am concerned
test is a must in any cycle. with out it you could get a good case
of deca dick, along with many othe issues. do a search on
deca only cycle and you will see why it is not a good idea.
I recomend you do some more research before you start another cycle.

[dive_kid]

My first cycle was test enanthate deca ....

week
1-2 test 200mg
4-6 test 400 mg deca300mg

try something like this:
week 1 to 12 500mg test
week 1 to 10 400mg deca
use 10mg nolvadex/day and 200mg b-6
clomid and nolva pct.

[firstinmia]

Ive done some research and thats y im posting to get some feedback..I said deca cause I had it left over but my plans are premo or fina ...I just want to get ur guys point of view and to see if u guys have any suggestions in the sense of wat can i stack the winstrol to build some masss....

[firstinmia]

try something like this:
week 1 to 12 500mg test
week 1 to 10 400mg deca
use 10mg nolvadex/day and 200mg b-6
clomid and nolva pct.

my cycle was suppose to be like that but I started getting high blood pressure from the test.........and

[dive_kid]

well winny is not really much of a mass builder.
TEST will make you grow. you can stack that with , deca, fina and lots of other mass builders, but winny wont put on the pounds. it is a hardener. now deca with out test is bad bad bad. if you have no test in your system you risk side like lethargy,
depression, LIMP DICK. now you dont want that. deca and test will put on the lbs and you can run winny for the last 5 weeks to help harden up

[firstinmia]

[QUOTE=dive_kid]well winny is not really much of a mass builder.
TEST will make you grow. you can stack that with , deca, fina and lots of other mass builders, but winny wont put on the pounds. it is a hardener. now deca with out test is bad bad bad. if you have no test in your system you risk side like lethargy,
depression, LIMP DICK. now you dont want that. deca and test will put on the lbs and you can run winny for the last 5 weeks to help harden up[/QUOTE

ok ...But I got a question for you..I gained a total of 15 pounds ..I know test makes u retian water but my face is MAD swollen and i got a little bit of a belly...wat can i do bout water retention..

[QuieTSToRM33]

U def need some test if u plan on running deca

if ur worried about water run some letro and nolva

[firstinmia]

U def need some test if u plan on running deca

if ur worried about water run some letro and nolva

naw I just said deca cause I have some !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AandF6969]

Do you want your dick to work?

I thought so. Run test with it.

[firstinmia]

Ok the thing with test is that it swells me up. I look like im 300 pounds..MAkes me look big not in a good way .......thats why im trying to stay away from test....

[jollygreenGIANT]

Wat do you guys think of wynstrol and deca 300 ????IS that a good or bad cycle????????????

no. its a horrible cycle. dont do it without test

[AandF6969]

Ok the thing with test is that it swells me up. I look like im 300 pounds..

Run an AI such as liquidex or femara.

[firstinmia]

no. its a horrible cycle. dont do it without test

OK now i know its a bad cycle ..WAt do u guys think would be a good 2nd cycle ..TO build masss and get a little bit cut..........OR build mass as long as it dont make me look FAT..

[dive_kid]

use test prop. little to no water retention, atleast for me.
also nolva and letro will reduce water bloat

[dive_kid]

OK now i know its a bad cycle ..WAt do u guys think would be a good 2nd cycle ..TO build masss and get a little bit cut..........OR build mass as long as it dont make me look FAT..

test prop and eq will give solid gains.

[longhorn814]

how do you know it was the test causing the bloat? Deca causes bloat too. Thats typically why people suggest running only one compound in their first cycle to see how you react and if you get sides you'll know what caused it. When you start stacking compounds and you get sides you dont know which caused it..

Try this
1-13 500 mg/wk test e
1-12 400 mg/wk Eq

[Joey2ness]

what was your first cycle? Test should be the base of every cycle. No test = no cycle. Deca and winny will shut down your natural test production and you will have no testosterone in your body

is Testosterone same as Sustanon 250

[firstinmia]

how do you know it was the test causing the bloat? Deca causes bloat too. Thats typically why people suggest running only one compound in their first cycle to see how you react and if you get sides you'll know what caused it. When you start stacking compounds and you get sides you dont know which caused it..

Try this
1-13 500 mg/wk test e
1-12 400 mg/wk Eq

a BUDDY HAD TOLD ME bout a cycle similar to this .WIll this give me good amount of mass?

[AandF6969]

is Testosterone same as Sustanon 250

Sustanon 250 is a blend of 4 different types of testosterone.

30 mg propionate
60 mg isocaproate
60 mg phenylpropionate
100 mg decanoate

a BUDDY HAD TOLD ME bout a cycle similar to this .WIll this give me good amount of mass?

Depends if your diet and training are in check.

[longhorn814]

a BUDDY HAD TOLD ME bout a cycle similar to this .WIll this give me good amount of mass?

it should providing you have a solid diet and training in place. Im on the same cycle right now, about to start PCT in two weeks. Up about 20 lbs, no bloat or sides either. Eq tends to yield slower yet more quality gains than deca. It also doesnt bloat you like deca either and does a good job of increasing your vascularity.

[wolfyEVH]

drop the steroids, and research....you've posted the same stuff up last night