HCG question/shutdown

[Mooseman33]

hey guys, im just starting wk. 3 of cycle..
wk.1-10 test.500
wk.1-8 decca 450
wk.7-11 winni 50 ed.
arimedex .25 ed.

question is that i am feeling really shut down, shooting no/little loads, not really hard, and ball ache..
i have 10,000 of HCG, will taking it now help with theses problems, its killing me...

[hosam4ever]

it will help u but take it at small doses like 250iu 3x ew

[Mooseman33]

can i take some clomid now, or save for pct, or take during both..

[hosam4ever]

no need for clomid now & during pct dont take clomid & hcg together

[Mooseman33]

will HCG help with my small loads, and hardness at all?

[Booz]

hey guys, im just starting wk. 3 of cycle..
wk.1-10 test.500
wk.1-8 decca 450
wk.7-11 winni 50 ed.
arimedex .25 ed.

question is that i am feeling really shut down, shooting no/little loads, not really hard, and ball ache..
i have 10,000 of HCG, will taking it now help with theses problems, its killing me...

1st off the cycle needs tweaking..................personally i think deca should be run a min of 10 weeks...what is the test you are using?

[Mooseman33]

sust 250, but had problem and most got destroyed, so i picked up some test 400, consisiting of prop. 100, e-100, and cyp200, giving me test 400.
just started week 3 and have enough sust. for one more week...
was going to go with the test 400 at 1.5 ml wk, and keep decca at 450..
as far as time no prblem, i can extend

[Booz]

wk 1-12 test
wk 1-11 deca
wk 11-15 winny

start your pct after the last winny tab.......
as for the hcg i would personally run 300iu eod throughout the cycle because of the use of deca......hcg can be run mny different ways...this way works for me....i suggest you run a search on hcg use........
btw what are your stats and prev cycle history............

[Mooseman33]

stats 6'1 235 29 years old, taken 2 cycles of just testoviron 250 many, many years ago..

[Mooseman33]

will running the HCG for 5-6 weeks be bad when istop and start my pct..

[Swifto]

will running the HCG for 5-6 weeks be bad when istop and start my pct..

You can run it 3 ways.

1 - Run HCG throughout at 250-1000ius/wk spliting the dosages evenly. Dont go over 1000ius/wk as Leydig Cell desensitization may begin to occur. 500ius/E5D is a protocol I am going to try next cycle.

2 - Run it in the middle of the cycle for 7-10 days straight at 250-1000ius/ED. Then again at 250-1000ius/ED for the final 10-15 days leading to PCT. For example, if it taked 14 days for Test Enan to no longer be active in your blood, run it for these 14 days.

3 - For PCT. I run 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri) for weeks 1-3 along with Nolva/Proviron for weeks 1-5. This is my PCT protocol, but can be added to other combinations of PCT compounds.

[Mooseman33]

hey swifto can i shoot you a pm real quick?

[Swifto]

hey swifto can i shoot you a pm real quick?

Fire away...

[speak]

You can run it 3 ways.

1 - Run HCG throughout at 250-1000ius/wk spliting the dosages evenly. Dont go over 1000ius/wk as Leydig Cell desensitization may begin to occur. 500ius/E5D is a protocol I am going to try next cycle.

2 - Run it in the middle of the cycle for 7-10 days straight at 250-1000ius/ED. Then again at 250-1000ius/ED for the final 10-15 days leading to PCT. For example, if it taked 14 days for Test Enan to no longer be active in your blood, run it for these 14 days.

3 - For PCT. I run 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri) for weeks 1-3 along with Nolva/Proviron for weeks 1-5. This is my PCT protocol, but can be added to other combinations of PCT compounds.

In your first point you say " Dont go over 1000ius/wk as Leydig Cell desensitization may begin to occur."

Then you say "Run it in the middle of the cycle for 7-10 days straight at 250-1000ius/ED." and "For PCT. I run 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri) for weeks 1-3 along with Nolva/Proviron for weeks 1-5."

Both of these add up to over 1000ius per week.

[russia dog]

which is the most effective, im planning to do 250 every 5 days, is is legit?

[Swifto]

In your first point you say " Dont go over 1000ius/wk as Leydig Cell desensitization may begin to occur."

Then you say "Run it in the middle of the cycle for 7-10 days straight at 250-1000ius/ED." and "For PCT. I run 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri) for weeks 1-3 along with Nolva/Proviron for weeks 1-5."

Both of these add up to over 1000ius per week.

I meant, dont go over 1000ius/ED. Not per week. Typo.

I wouldnt exceed 1000ius/ED unless also using Nolva. Which in my PCT protocol, I advocate.

[speak]

thanks bro, that clears that up.