Test Enan ? on the facts of it b4 i use..

[boxingbean]

Reported Characteristics
Active-Life: 8 days
Drug Class: Androgenic/Anabolic Steroid (For injection)
Average Reported Dosage: Men 200-1000mg weekly.
Acne: Yes
Water Retention: Yes, high due to estrogen conversion
High Blood Pressure: Yes, normally due to high water /electrolyte retention
Liver Toxic: Low in listed dosages
Aromatization: Yes, high
DHT Conversion: Yes, high
Decreases HPTA Function: Yes, high


been researching gyno, puffiness and avoidance....C binos thread is the shit!!!! but im still unanswered on a few questions

prone to gyno.....how can i avoid it?? letro or nolv ?? and all you gyno prone individuals who have exp it while on...leme know what you did plz...

my last cycle of dec/sus/tren, i had no trace of it while on....but near end b4 pct it showed but went away when i added letro to pct....
NEEDLESS to say, I WANNA STAY AWAY FROM ALL POSSIBILITIES OF GYNO!!!!!!!!!!

during cycle?? or during PCT??? or both...

[Warrior]

Do you have an existing case of gyno? Either through previous cycles or puberty?

[boxingbean]

naw...maybe a puffy chest..but thats bf% im guessin seeing how im dieting hardcore and flattening out now....but as far as puffy nipple syndrome ya...had that....about a nickel size, puffy a lil wehn not erect...

but PRIOR to cycles

do blv last cycle made it worse until pct

but now its normal to where it was wehn i was a youngn

[Warrior]

Run some Nolvadex with it. You probably just have some left over baby fat to get rid of... try cutting up some more and see if that helps. Did you smooth out more on your last cycle... or drop some bodyfat? Its hard to tell if you have a genuine gyno sensitivity or if its just paranoia... you could post some pics. Whats your bodyfat now? Have you ever had it down to elss than 10-12 percent and still see the puffy nips? How old are you?

BTW - a lot of new folks are way too spooked about gyno... when the reality is there is little to worry about until your weekly androgen burden (and estorgen conversion) gets very high and/or you have been cycling AAS for several years...

[1buffsob]

An AI with 10mg nolva ed should do the trick, provided your bf is not too high and your dosages are reasonable.

Good luck.

1buffsob

[boxingbean]

Run some Nolvadex with it. You probably just have some left over baby fat to get rid of... try cutting up some more and see if that helps. Did you smooth out more on your last cycle... or drop some bodyfat? Its hard to tell if you have a genuine gyno sensitivity or if its just paranoia... you could post some pics. Whats your bodyfat now? Have you ever had it down to elss than 10-12 percent and still see the puffy nips? How old are you?

BTW - a lot of new folks are way too spooked about gyno... when the reality is there is little to worry about until your weekly androgen burden (and estorgen conversion) gets very high and/or you have been cycling AAS for several years...

bf% 9.3444etc..... got a bf machine...
ya more or less paranoia, but just assume thru bf% in chest....since young but as of now, not a prob no more...a lil lil...but im losing it...muscle takin over and its lookin good
will post soon pics
im 21
have done 2 cycles within last year to now.

nevr seen gyno come up from a cycle...just when i slip on a diet and BF raises... and yes did flatten out, but flattening out NOW due to dieting,running, and i THINK some supps im on now...or placebo effect..

so you would recomend nolv with cycle?? would i start from 1st injections..? EOD or ED. thx man...liftin some wiehgt off my back

[1buffsob]

im 21
have done 2 cycles within last year to now.

This part scares me. I hope you're giving adequate time in between cycles.

so you would recomend nolv with cycle?? would i start from 1st injections..? EOD or ED. thx man...liftin some wiehgt off my back

I would run 10mg ed starting with the first injection if you're concerned with gyno.

1buffsob

[Warrior]

Your still kinda young - I wouldn't commit yourself to having gyno yet... although 10 percent is getting lean enough to tell. Pics would help. I would recommend 10mg of Nolvadex per 500mg of testosterone. I usually go with that - and I had sorta puffy nips from childhood that went away after about 22 or 23 years old when i started to get into really good shape in the Corps. I got those retarded endo genes too...

I would stay away from 19-Nors as the progesterone can aggrevate any existing gyno - and that is more difficult to stop then estrogen... IMHO, stay away from trenbolone or nandrolone until you can be certain if it is gyno.

But I would also recommend training natural for a little while longer... dial in your diet and some gut bustin' training over the next year or so and then think about another cycle... we can still help you with diet and training - you don't have to be on any PED's to get solid advice here

[boxingbean]

right on......ya my last cycle included trenbolone depot, maybe paranoia since i think it was the sus

and im not overweight...short n stocky but packin some muscle makes the fat nada to worry about.

been pumpin for 6 almost 7 years....2+ of which i was boxing so i was slim...and got sick of slim...wanted bulk.

so 10mg nolv, 500g test, sounds good man, ima save this thread when i decide in a few months

[boxingbean]

This part scares me. I hope you're giving adequate time in between cycles.




I would run 10mg ed starting with the first injection if you're concerned with gyno.

1buffsob

6 to 8 months btwn bud

[Swifto]

6 to 8 months btwn bud

Perfect time off. The longer the better.

[1buffsob]

6 to 8 months btwn bud

Perfect amount of time.

Nice job. Good luck with the cycle. Keep us updated.

1buffsob

[marcus300]

Your still kinda young - I wouldn't commit yourself to having gyno yet... although 10 percent is getting lean enough to tell. Pics would help. I would recommend 10mg of Nolvadex per 500mg of testosterone. I usually go with that - and I had sorta puffy nips from childhood that went away after about 22 or 23 years old when i started to get into really good shape in the Corps. I got those retarded endo genes too...

I would stay away from 19-Nors as the progesterone can aggrevate any existing gyno - and that is more difficult to stop then estrogen... IMHO, stay away from trenbolone or nandrolone until you can be certain if it is gyno.

But I would also recommend training natural for a little while longer... dial in your diet and some gut bustin' training over the next year or so and then think about another cycle... we can still help you with diet and training - you don't have to be on any PED's to get solid advice here

Thats the best advice for someone who is 21yrs old