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Check out these links......
http://steroidsviciouscycles.com/HTM...clesTRAIL.html
or
http://www.steroidsviciouscycles.com/
or
http://www.steroidsviciouscycles.com/
AR Biggerologist
WTF does that misinformed bullshit have to do with anything? Does AAS abuse cause health issues, of course, but did it cause the list of deaths they show in their overhyped crapfest-NO! Does AAS used intelligently and with medical supervision cause health issues-NO!
Last edited by shortie; 06-19-2006 at 05:56 PM.
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With Medical Supervision??? What Dr. would medically supervise a patient that is taking AAS? Any responsible Dr. would tell his patient to quit. AAS use is HRT. Use to grow musles is by definition abuse.
Not to be Mr. Right about this but, this creates some concern for me. Kidney problems at 30....DAM.
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Originally Posted by Rookie1974
WOW!
AR Biggerologist
Interesting that you made this statement yesterday during a discussion of AAS effects on the heart....... Also, not to be Mr. Wrong, many if not all of the pros of bodybuilding are under direct care of a Dr. This is a fact not open to question, as to whether or not any of us regular joes could get medical advice from a doctor about AAS use, read around here and you will see an amazing vaiety of threads regarding just such a thing. And if using AAS to improve my physique is abuse then I am an abuser, but since Webster defines abuse as: "2)to put to a wrong or improper use", I don't see how using muscle enhancing agents to enhance my muscles could be abuse?
Last edited by shortie; 06-19-2006 at 06:15 PM.
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Yes. Why are you so surprised?
A lot of sports therapists and such do.
Are you a doctor?
2/3 Deca 1/3 Test
Interesting that you made this statement yesterday during a discussion of AAS effects on the heart....... Also, not to be Mr. Wrong, many if not all of the pros of bodybuilding are under direct care of a Dr. This is a fact not open to question, as to whether or not any of us regular joes could get medical advice from a doctor about AAS use, read around here and you will see an amazing vaiety of threads regarding just such a thing. And if using AAS to improve my physique is abuse then I am an abuser, but since Webster defines abuse as: "2)to put to a wrong or improper use", I don't see how using muscle enhancing agents to enhance my muscles could be abuse?
Associate Member
A bit defensive.......I was just asking for elaboration to the points this guy raises in his video.
Hell, I did'nt make the video.
AR Biggerologist
LOL, Nah, Rookie, I hope I didn't come acrossed too harshly. But from the list of names in the trailer of AAS related deaths, I recognized at least one suicide, one who died of of a congenital conditions, and a couple others who's names could have been used in a film about the evils of recreational/OTC drug use. I tend to get wound up when I see such patent bullshit.
Last edited by shortie; 06-19-2006 at 06:46 PM.
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Yea man, just seeing that kinda thing all the time I get tired of it. A lot of BS most of the time.
AR Biggerologist
Here's a good video for ya- http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv
AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
His Name is SVC and he has been on this board... he got ripped apart on another thread... i'll try to find it.
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I love that video
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Uh this guy in this thread is SVT? WTF happened? Post the link.
Last edited by guest589745; 06-19-2006 at 06:58 PM.
AR's Salad Tossing Connoisseur
Associate Member
I figured there was more to the story than he's elaborating on. Hell, he's selling a video, marketed to high schools in a time when the baseball scandal has created an opportunity for this kind of thing. He says in the video that he has Alkalosing Spondilosis (sp) which is a genetic disease tied to HLA-B27...a autoimmune disease involving destruction of the joints, and probably very little to do with AAS if anything.
The list of kidney diseases and heart problems at such a young age caught y eye. Hell I dont mind dying early to use AAS, but 35 is a bit too risky for me. Which is why I asked for input.....
Peace Bros
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Ok svC not svT, I was thinkin of someone else. OK.
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That is the longest thread known to man. Besides the damn whore thread.
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Anyone listen to the radio interview on the dude's website? Of ALL his issues, none sound directly related to AAS. He talks about back and joint pain. Ok, heavy weights and improper form can cause that. He had joints replaced. Again, I don't see AAS tearing down tendons, but forcing up huge weight will over time. He talks about stomach issues. From what? Test-E? Eating cleanly? What he doesn't talk about are his lifestyle, recreation drugs...on and on....
Banned
im not even going to click on them...
EVERYTHING CAUSES HEALTH PROBLEMS..
ie.
-eating too much
-not sleeping enough
-sleeping too much
-cell phones
-tv
-girls
-work related stress
-alcohol
-smoking
-cleaning products
-paint
-car exhaust
i think i made my point
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I'm not buying into all the media hype about these compounds, the deaths just aren't happening like you think. We are not hearing about bodybuilders tipping over left and right. Most of the deaths are classified as "steroid related" and steroid related is such a broad term to use. There is a big difference between coming down with health issues or a fatality while on steroids, and coming down with health issues BECAUSE OF steroids, you get my drift? And who is to say that everybody on steroids is healthy to begin with? You mean there wouldnt be one guy here or there that wouldnt have developed some sort of health issue anyways? It's bullshit man, media bullshit!!!! Show me the proof, I've done steroids since I was 19 and my blood pressure is low and athletic, my blood levels check out fine, including my cholesterol levels.
Retired VET~ If you dont know... ask me
I agree....alot of the guys also did recreational drugs...too...there is just no proof of direct correlation to steroids....alot of the kidney problems were linked to diuretics and the misuse of them....leukemia was linked to growth hormone...but I ahvent seen any reports that show exactly what led to what so who knows.
Anabolic Member
Sorry you have kidney problems. You should follow your Doctors advice.
My doctors (i am 55), specificlly my Cardio Doctor told me go for it. Most
of my Doctors go to an internal medicine Doc and get themselves a test
shot on a regular basis. --They don't talk about it--
It's not for people with cancer, drunkards, or drug users. It's for guys and
gals that have dicipline and care about their life styles and want to live
to be 100.
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its just some fag whos trying money off a movie
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