Milk: Good or bad?

[sircharles]

Im on a bulking cycle, and have a good ab workout. I can feel the muscle developing, yet I still have a little bulge and no real definition on my abs.

I usually consume around 5 cups of 2% everyday (give or take a little)...

Could this be my problem?

[perfectbeast2001]

I wouldn't expect to see my abs during bulking. Save those worries for your cutting cycle and concentrate on eating. You wont look defined till you cut. Milks fine for bulking as part of a well planned diet.

[kyjelly]

yeah, ditto

when bulking, you usually dont worry about showing those "rock hard abs"

Thats all when cutting, and when cutting, milk is a big no no IMO.

But with bulking, have at it!

[1buffsob]

With bulking, it's ok in moderation. When cutting, that's a definate no in my book.

5 cups ed does sound excessive to me. I'll ocassionally have a glass of skim with some casein if I'm up in the middle of the night, but that's it.

1buffsob

[kyjelly]

Yeah, when bulking...I had milk only with my shakes...which was 1-2, depending on the day.

[sircharles]

Yeah, I only have milk w/my PWO shake and whatever protein shakes I have during the day.

Guess Ill have to deal w/not seeing a 6-pack anymore (im going from being slim and tone to whatever this bulk leads too).

thanx guys

[tinyguy2]

milk is GREAT!!!! when bulking. i sometimes drink up to a gallon a day when bulking. squats and milk makes a small boy big. OH my god fat gain AAAAAAA big deal. i drink lots of milk. i have only gained a little fat. nothing better for someone in college then milk 3 bucks= 1600 calories

[Jakt]

well, is the main concern for milk the sugar and lactose when cutting?

if so, then can't you use lactaid in pwo? like 1/2 or 1 cup?

[hardgainer12]

there is a ton of sugar in milk. i think drinking a gollon a day is rediculous

[tinyguy2]

lactaid still has the sugars(lactose) doesnt it. i just thought they added that chemical to it thats in those pills called lactase i think

[FromFleshtoSteel]

lactaid just includes the enzyme needed to digest the lactose

[tinyguy2]

lactose is a slow digesting sugar. plus it has fat in it so that gi stuff doesnt really matter becasue the fat slows down the digestion anyway

[DNoMac]

I use skim with no probs. Usually only have some with my oats in the morning and then pwo or ppwo so sugar isn't an issue for me. Milk also contains IGF-1!!

[FromFleshtoSteel]

it may be low gi and slow digesting, but that's only part of the picture

the real deal is how much of an insulin response the sugar causes, which is not 100% accurately accounted for by the GI index.

in this regard, milk's insulin response is actually much higher than one would assume from its GI

[perfectbeast2001]

just found out im allergic to it so i got no choice. No more milk for me!

[tinyguy2]

Gaining alittle fat to gain a bunch of muscle doesnt bother me. drinking milk makes getting to my calorie needs easier and cheaper. It has been working so far with minimal fat gain so why not do what works.

[audis4]

Gaining alittle fat to gain a bunch of muscle doesnt bother me. drinking milk makes getting to my calorie needs easier and cheaper. It has been working so far with minimal fat gain so why not do what works.

Won't touch the sh_t.

[1buffsob]

A little bit of milk is beneficial. But you have to remember, moderation is key. I still won't mess with it when cutting though. It gives me a soft appearance too. Something I'm not too fond of when cutting.

[tinyguy2]

yeah cutting is a completely different story i'm strict on cutting. bulking i give myself a break.

[sircharles]

yeah that soft apperance is what I hate. theres a 6 pack under here, i can feel it but cant see it

guess ill deal if im putting on weight.

thanx everyone

[SuperLift]

I used to make all my protein shakes with milk untill I found that I like water instead. After my workout i would go home and slam a protein shake made with milk. It made me feel so shitty using milk in my pwo shake. I now just stick to water, unless i have a shake right before bed.

[sircharles]

that doesnt taste like sh*t??? i couldnt imagine water + protein.

[audis4]

that doesnt taste like sh*t??? i couldnt imagine water + protein.

Water and protein with ice is bomb. Especially the butter cream elite pro whey!

[JohnboyF]

Water and protein with ice is bomb. Especially the butter cream elite pro whey!

Yes it is. I added one egg white whey and water and froze it popsicle mold and made a wheysicle