heard a rumor that guys are starting to use a white powder administered through an iv to boost hemoglobin. this stuff is commonly used on the scene by EMS workers in emergency situations. anyone heard of it?
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heard a rumor that guys are starting to use a white powder administered through an iv to boost hemoglobin. this stuff is commonly used on the scene by EMS workers in emergency situations. anyone heard of it?
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Sounds pretty vague, could be almost anything.
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EPO maybe?
Freakin expencive from what I've heard..
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no its not epo. its like an artificial blood/blood booster.
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here we go...
http://www.dcmsonline.org/jax-medici...icialblood.htm
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lemme kno what u guys think
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Originally Posted by tri-athlete
Ummm...Hespan...is the only thing I know that is used by emergency medics. It's a blood volume expander used for people that are badly bleeding or going into shock. It's in a liquid I.V. form and it would have no effect on performance. That's the only thing I could think of that is used
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well if its a "blood volume expander" then wouldnt it increase oxygen circulation throughout the respitory system, and thus increasing VO2 max and endurance?
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no...it replaces plasma volume only..you still have the same amount of red blood cells it's just in a larger volume. It's to prevent shock from blood loss.
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ooo, i see. thanks dizz!
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i think guys are using it with epo to boost their plasma volume allowing more epo to be taken without the risk of clotting the arteries. thus, resulting in a heartattack...
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it simply lessens the risk of a heartattack while using high dosed epo
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drinking a lot of water would have the same effect.
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true, true, i hydrate excessively before going to bed to avoid heart attacks as my heart rate descends, but most of the time when i wake up im dehydrated. isnt this dangerous? by the way im not considering using this blood plasma expander. just trying to figure out why guys are using it.
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You wake up dehydrated? do you have to piss alot during the night? i wouldn't think that's "dangerous" Why are you worried about heart attack? does it run in the family or something?
As for the Hespan, I really don't thin kanybody uses that for BBing reasons. The stuff is crazy expensive...I was a supply guy for my aid station and a case of 12 - 500ml bags was $350. You would do better with Lactated ringers solution...that's more of a hydrator and it's about $30 for a case of 12 - 1000ml bags
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yea i do piss a lot during the night after hydrating. nah doesnt run in the family, but epo causes ur blood to clot easier. if u are dehydrated/plasma too low it allows these clots to form easier. ur heart rate drops significantly on epo, and even lower while u sleep (for obvious reasons). if ur heart rate gets too low and ur rbc is high it can clost fairly easily. this is what happened to a number of cyclist about 8 years ago...they simply did not wake up from their sleep.
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Ya I heard about all that. People droppin cuz thier blood was basically too thick. very important to stay hydrated. More so than trying to us I.V. fluids. I don't think you would be up to getting an IV every day
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