IGF-1 Lr3/Clen cycle LOG ..training for IRONMAN

[mister.fantastic]

I am training for the HALF IRONMAN in KONA, HI this summer bitches! I'm very excited and have been getting my economy, endurance, and cardio in check for the past several months.. Before getting involved in AAS and weightlifting, i was an avid triathlete. Anyway, i am getting into the CRAZY part of my training and plan on implementing IGF-1 Lr3 and clenbuterol like so:

60mcgs ed IGF-1 for 30 days (split up 30mcgs PWO morning, 30mcgs PWO late afternoon)

Clen will be run like a "ladder: 60/80/100/120/100/80/60mcgs 4 days worth of each stage of ladder, 2x through equalling 6 weeks worth.
Bendryl will be run the 3rd week and 6th week ed at 50mgs.
L-Taurine will be run ed throughout cycle at 1500mgs ed.


I have 2mgs of IGF-1 from lion which should be exactly 32 days worth at 60mcgs...unless my math was off?

I will be splitting the clen up in three doses throughout everyday, never taking a dose after 5pm.

I think i have everything pretty much squared away, although i did have a question regarding the injection of the IGF-1. I've ran it in the past, not for so long, at not at 60mcgs, but at 40mcgs, and i injected bi-laterally, but only in my glutes. It may be personal preference but should IGF-1 be injected into all the various main muslce groups throughout the cycle? What are some of the gurus thoughts and opinions on this?

I plan on giving a complete log of my daily regimem, experiences, stats, etc for those interested. I know every says that but no one sticks with it...

I know i had another question but i can't think of it at the moment..

-M.F.

[mister.fantastic]

My stats:

28 yrs. old
ht: 6'0"
wt: 201lbs.
bf%: ~9
many, many years experience of both triathelons, wieght lifting
4 AAS cycles in the past..(my last cycle was almost 2 yrs. ago TREN/PROP/WINNY, which i loved)
Goals for IGF/clen cycle: lower my bf% in half...this will take treatmendous dedication to training and diet. If i lose 5-10lbs. in the process, so be it. I don't want to lose any more than that though. I know this is quite counter intuitive for many on the board, but for the type of event i'm training for, i actaully WANT to be lighter and stronger.

[mister.fantastic]

I just re-read znak's (the russian phenom) partial log on IGF-1 Lr3 from back in 2006..very good information in it.. Helped me in my first go at IGF..hoping to take from it again this go around

[mister.fantastic]

Okay, regarding reconstitution of IGF-1 Lr3:


I'm under the impression that Lion still sends his IGF-1 with ~.9% NaCl solution, which is acidic enough for reconstitution for media grade Lr3. I've read many people who are concerned about what they use for reconstitution, whether it be aceidic acid, ba, bacterostatic water, nacl, etc, etc.........I'm satisfied using nacl after reading further into some of the references given by old man hooker in the igf profile. Okay, so let me break it down how i will be reconstituting this...correct me if i'm missing anything or if my math is wrong...

1-Remove vaccum from vial of NaCl, using slin pin, pull out 1 mL (1cc) of solution into syringe.
2-Slowly plunge 1 mL nacl solution from syringe into vial containing lyophylized IGF-1, letting the solution run down the side of the glass, so as not to directly hit the igf.
3-Slowly swirl solution in vial until IGF completely dissipates into solution. BINGO: RECONSTITUTED. Now add more NaCl solution according to dosing prefrences:
4-Slowly withdraw entire amount of reconstituted IGF solution and add it to an empty 10mL vial.
5- So currently the IGF is dosed at 1mg IGF/1mL solution
6- Continue adding NaCl to vial until there is 10mL worth of NaCl in vial with IGF
7- Now the IGF is dosed at 1mg IGF/10mL of solution
8- So a filled 1mL slin pin will contain .10mgs of IGF or 100mcgs
9- So if i want to pull 60mcgs, i fill my 1mL slin pin to the the .6 mark (just above halfway)

I think i have this right...if you can follow my logic, feel free to correct me on anything..

[mister.fantastic]

I'm debating whether to just inject the entire 60mcgs in the morning 10-15min. PWO and not worry about splitting it up twice through the day..we'll see how it goes.

[Gear]

You don't need to inject IGF into different muscle groups, you can but it's not necessary. I always inject IGF in the same spot, and I always take my IGF PWO bi-lat.

-Gear

[mister.fantastic]

You don't need to inject IGF into different muscle groups, you can but it's not necessary. I always inject IGF in the same spot, and I always take my IGF PWO bi-lat.

-Gear

okay, very cool. i will be injecting into my delt's this go around, PWO, bi-laterally. Thanks Gear, i appreciate any coments. I'll be adding some before pics here soon. IGF-1 should be arriving anyday now ....

[rubix6]

nice avi, m.f! good luck with your igf/clen...keep us posted

[taylor26]

Okay, regarding reconstitution of IGF-1 Lr3:


I'm under the impression that Lion still sends his IGF-1 with ~.9% NaCl solution, which is acidic enough for reconstitution for media grade Lr3. I've read many people who are concerned about what they use for reconstitution, whether it be aceidic acid, ba, bacterostatic water, nacl, etc, etc.........I'm satisfied using nacl after reading further into some of the references given by old man hooker in the igf profile. Okay, so let me break it down how i will be reconstituting this...correct me if i'm missing anything or if my math is wrong...

1-Remove vaccum from vial of NaCl, using slin pin, pull out 1 mL (1cc) of solution into syringe.
2-Slowly plunge 1 mL nacl solution from syringe into vial containing lyophylized IGF-1, letting the solution run down the side of the glass, so as not to directly hit the igf.
3-Slowly swirl solution in vial until IGF completely dissipates into solution. BINGO: RECONSTITUTED. Now add more NaCl solution according to dosing prefrences:
4-Slowly withdraw entire amount of reconstituted IGF solution and add it to an empty 10mL vial.
5- So currently the IGF is dosed at 1mg IGF/1mL solution
6- Continue adding NaCl to vial until there is 10mL worth of NaCl in vial with IGF
7- Now the IGF is dosed at 1mg IGF/10mL of solution
8- So a filled 1mL slin pin will contain .10mgs of IGF or 100mcgs
9- So if i want to pull 60mcgs, i fill my 1mL slin pin to the the .6 mark (just above halfway)

I think i have this right...if you can follow my logic, feel free to correct me on anything..

Okay, i have a question that has probably been asked many times before.. is NaCl okay to use? I've seen acetic acid being used for reconstituition, it ssemsto be more popular, why is this? Is teh IGF just as stable in the NaCl? I'm sure the answer to this is somewhere in this forum, but thought i'd ask. I'm VERY interested in IGF. Keep us posted on your result mf.. I enjoyed your Tren log, very detailed. Thanks

[Discipline_1]

My stats:

28 yrs. old
ht: 6'0"
wt: 201lbs.
bf%: ~9
many, many years experience of both triathelons, wieght lifting
4 AAS cycles in the past..(my last cycle was almost 2 yrs. ago TREN/PROP/WINNY, which i loved)

You have to look fantastic with stats... nice work

[Discipline_1]

Okay, i have a question that has probably been asked many times before.. is NaCl okay to use? I've seen acetic acid being used for reconstituition, it ssemsto be more popular, why is this? Is teh IGF just as stable in the NaCl? I'm sure the answer to this is somewhere in this forum, but thought i'd ask. I'm VERY interested in IGF. Keep us posted on your result mf.. I enjoyed your Tren log, very detailed. Thanks

When reconstituting with NaCl the solution will last for about 4 weeks, people use AA when needing it to last longer than that, the AA solution will sting when injected if you dont cut it with bac water or NaCl before injecting though

[mister.fantastic]

You have to look fantastic with stats... nice work

thanks, i'll get some pics up soon..i have been slowly "transforming" my body to perform well in such a distance event. I'm certainly leaner than i have been in a very long time...BUT I NEED TO BE LEANER!!!

[mister.fantastic]

btw...my IGF came YESTERDAY, props lion...3 day t/o

[mister.fantastic]

i begin tomorrow morning!! It will be very interesting to see how IGF and clen go together for me. I'm breaking the clen up three times a day, 20mcgs each for the first four days, in other words, i'm starting at 60mcgs. I am very sensitive to clen, so we'll see how it goes starting at a more moderate dose.

I'm only ramping up to 120mcgs at the peak of the cycle, which for me is alot.

I'm excited to shake like a leaf tomorrow.

Tomorrow's agenda is swimming (2500 yds) and shoulders/bi's....then of course PWO: 60mcgs IGF-1!!

[mister.fantastic]

nice avi, m.f!

I LIVE IN A VAN...DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!!!!