Draw with an 18g from a multi-use vial?

[D-Unit 39]

So I just got all of my supplies (alcohol pads, syringes, assorted needles, etc.) and I am wondering about drawing some of the gear that I have been eagerly awaiting for a couple weeks.

It is a Test-E / EQ cycle, and my first cycle. The Test-E is in 1mL/250mg AMPs (easy enough). The EQ is in a 10ML vial, and I will be needing to draw 0.8mL (200mg) twice a week for 12 weeks. That leaves me using almost exactly 2 10mL vials.

My question is this: I have read reccomendations to use an 18 gauge needle to draw with, and a 23 or 25 gauge needle to inject with (I'm going to use 25g to inject). Will an 18 gauge needle through the rubber top of the vial twice a week (Each vial will be drawn on about 13 times) cause too much damage that I need to worry about leakage or contamination?

I bought a couple of extra sealed sterile vials just incase I notice the top getting shredded and need to transfer to a new one, but that could be too late & cause contamination by the time I notice it. Am I better off drawing with a 25g needle if I need to use it that many times? I don't have enough extras but am willing to order if it will be safer/better.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid? Thanks in advance...

[tripmachine]

you may want to split it in to two bottles..... it seems fine for me but then again there is a tiny little air leak in one of mine... i use it eod though and its a 20ml bottle.... so you should be fine... maybe hit the same hole or strategically move around the top so you don't cause it to weaken and tear for a bigger hole to be made.... should be fine with one but if you are too worried it can't hurt to split it into two.... :] gL

[SergioLMT]

You really should be fine, especially if you are using two long esters (not as many "pokes" per week). Though, on that same note, I just finished a cycle of all short esters and used an 18" pin to draw and had no problems.

Best of luck on your cycle, and welcome to the darkside!

[PT]

exactly. i use 18g needles to draw out of amps but i wont use them for vials anymore because they will tear a hole in the rubber stopper after a while.

[tripmachine]

Best of luck on your cycle, and welcome to the darkside!

I don't see why people think it's such a dark side about juicing.... I guess people that think it's a dark side think it's wrong but are doing it anyway... ? I don't know... I know the media and most people think it's wrong so I guess the 'dark side' people just go with the flow and think it's wrong but do it anyway?

[100m champ]

18g ouch!

[Maldorf]

22g is fine for drawing and doesnt screw up the stopper too bad. Dont understand why youre going to a 18 g. 22g is fast enough.