Test overrated?

[Gears]

Hey,

I`ve heard a few respectable members (Tai included) that think Test is overrated. Now I wanted to know what everyone else thougt. Whats it overrated compared to, and what kind of results does it yeld compared to other AAS?

[NATE0406]

test in my opinion is deff not overrated. now yeah its not as anbolic as your 19 nor compunds but deff holds up to its rep. imo

[MuscleScience]

No way

[Schmidty]

Its way over rated IMO, deca blows test away for size.

[jaydub]

forget that. my personal experience is that there is no substitute for test.

[kojak_x]

wouldn't it depend on if its your first cycle or your 10th.

[jaydub]

wouldn't it depend on if its your first cycle or your 10th.

nope. i'm quite a few cycles in, and test still rocks!! tren was over rated..

[Oki-Des]

Test is the best IMO.

[NATE0406]

Its way over rated IMO, deca blows test away for size.

yeah but you cant really compare test with any other aas. there is no doubt that 19 nors are more powerful.

[jaydub]

yeah but you cant really compare test with any other aas. there is no doubt that 19 nors are more powerful.

hmmm. i'm gonna have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there...

[SMCengineer]

Test is probably overrated in realtion to something like tren, but IMO it's the best all around aas out there.

[DaBoy7777]

Oh your are talking about the people who abuse steroids thats why it doesnt work for them because they fried there shit. Just like crack heads. If they took the time off that they were supposed to they still would get results!

[phenom1979]

test is the best!

[NATE0406]

hmmm. i'm gonna have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there...

with what? you think that test is more anabolic then deca or tren???

[jaydub]

i really don't get what's so great about tren. all it did for me was make my junk go limp, give me friggin terrible night sweats,insomnia.. and all that with no greater gains than a test only cycle.

[jaydub]

with what? you think that test is more anabolic then deca or tren???

sure. maybe not tren... but i'd say deca though. it'll get you more size, more strength, and better pumps than deca hands down. not to mention the labido( however ya spell it)

[Big]

It's really not even a fair comparison. Tren is far more anabolic that test, but I would never run tren without test so I don't see how the comparison works.

[SMCengineer]

with what? you think that test is more anabolic then deca or tren???

It's not so much that's it's more anabolic than tren or deca it's that it's essentially a cycle all it's own. No other aas can really do that and allow the user to make good keepable gains. Both tren and deca really rely on test for libido and depression issues. Not to mention it's also way cheaper than most other aas.

[CheddaNips]

thank you blome

[NATE0406]

It's not so much that's it's more anabolic than tren or deca it's that it's essentially a cycle all it's own. No other aas can really do that and allow the user to make good keepable gains. Both tren and deca really rely on test for libido and depression issues. Not to mention it's also way cheaper than most other aas.

yeah im not denying how great test is. i praised it in my earlier post. and like big said you wouldnt run a 19 nor without test. but there really is no fair way to compare test to anything else. the only reasonable way to compare them is by there profile. and if you go by profile alone then deca and tren "will hinder better gains" (not suggesting to run them without test). just talking theoredically.

[jaydub]

I'm feeling ya there nate. i was just speaking from experience.

[Gears]

I understand why test is ran with other supressive roids, but compared to deca mg for mg, how different would the gains be. Or rather how would a cycle like:

Test-E 500mg/wk

Compare to

Test-E 250mg/wk
Deca 250mg/wk

I know what its uses are primarly for, but i`m probably going to run a cycle of test only just to see how my body reacts, and I want to know how it compares to other AAS (even if its just theory crafting single ran supressive AAS). I know the profile for tren claims its about 5 times more anabolic than test, so would that mean you would yeild almost 5 times the amount of mass, just for example, (I know thats not exactly the case since many other factors have to be considered, but you get my point). Also, it dosen`t compare to things like Deca.

I just want to know why some people think its overrated, and what the standard of expectations there are to even compare to, to even say its overrated.

[Ashop]

Hey,

I`ve heard a few respectable members (Tai included) that think Test is overrated. Now I wanted to know what everyone else thougt. Whats it overrated compared to, and what kind of results does it yeld compared to other AAS?

No way. TEST is KING! I always use as base.

[james21]

No way. TEST is KING! I always use as base.

dude, alll your posts ive read ... sigh .... your a tool

[NATE0406]

dude, alll your posts ive read ... sigh .... your a tool

dude thats kinda harsh dont ya think..

[Schmidty]

Oh your are talking about the people who abuse steroids thats why it doesnt work for them because they fried there shit. Just like crack heads. If they took the time off that they were supposed to they still would get results!

ur suppose to come off crack???

[NATE0406]

ur suppose to come off crack???

yup and benedryl every 3rd week..

[Chiefsman123]

IMO test is NOT over rated. I've run 3 cycles so far, 1 of them where I left test out and replaced it with tren. Didn't like the results, but I will admit that I didn't plan the cycle out just right though.

And like already mentioned, not many well educated users run for example DECA without running it with test, and we all know why that is...

[ChuckLee]

In my humble opinion, overrated is not the right word, I'd say overdosed, in most cases. I agree with Tai's way to stack AAS, where he reputes that when you are on a high anabolic substance like a 19-nor (Deca, Tren) test is best used in lower doses than in a test only cycle, because when stacked with such powerful substance it could magnifies the sides and then keeping it high would be worthless because you have already an high anabolic compound to kick your gains.
I'm gonna follow this path for my next test+tren stack, because I feel that I'll get the same gains or maybe better than stacking them both at high dosages, with definitely less sides.
In this case test aim will just be the replacement of a possible lack of your natural physiologic functions due to a HPTA suppression by the 19-nor.
In my personal experience I found that stacking test E at 250mg/week with other anabolics, oral too, gave me more gais than stacking it at 500mg/week with a standard dose of Deca (400mg/week).

CL

[im83931]

I understand why test is ran with other supressive roids, but compared to deca mg for mg,

I think this is the basis for the question. Comparing MG for MG is problematic. In medicine this is never done, (unless the study is anotated by a drug company). Even drugs in the same class and subclass.
You can however make generalized statements that one drug is more pwerful than the other based on efficacy. While this may seem like semantics it is actually a very important point. Deca and tren are probably more powerful than test alone. However I wouldnt want to run deca or tren by itself because I like to have sex with my wife.

[im83931]

In my humble opinion, overrated is not the right word, I'd say overdosed, in most cases. I agree with Tai's way to stack AAS, where he reputes that when you are on a high anabolic substance like a 19-nor (Deca, Tren) test is best used in lower doses than in a test only cycle, because when stacked with such powerful substance it could magnifies the sides and then keeping it high would be worthless because you have already an high anabolic compound to kick your gains.
I'm gonna folow this path for my next test+tren stack, because I feel that I'll get the same gains or maybe better than stacking them both at high dosages, with definitely less sides.
In this case test aim will just be the replacement of a possible lack of your natural physiologic functions due to a HPTA suppression by the 19-nor.

CL

x2 on this one

[Andro9]

gotta love test

[ChuckLee]

gotta love test

Everybody love it, but in different ways tho...

[Information]

dude, alll your posts ive read ... sigh .... your a tool

Check your PMs.

[brnxbomers]

hey guys.... this is my 1 st cycle using gear/test e. so i decided to ahead with the classic beginner cycle of 500 mg/week @ 10 weeks.

Well so far im am towards the end of my 5th week and i ve seen very little changes...i've gained some strength on all my lifts...maybe thats cuz im working every group twice a week for the past five weeks...size wise my arms still look skinny as usual and my calves arent growing either.

i conducted my first 3 shots in the gluts using 1" poker after week 3 i switched to side delts for better absorption purposes. anyway, i ll be continuing on the delts...my next poke is day after tomorrow.

As far as weight gain....before starting test E i was fluctuating between 149 and 150lbs....and this week i've weighed as low as 155 and as high as 160...round about 157 lbs in the middle of the day?

but im not seeing that "tackle the bus type of power" i do feel energetic...IF IM FULLY RESTED...im working out to fatigue everytime...i dont even get sore anymore...but wtf is goin on i was expecting to be around 170 lbs with quality muscle...so far only a some weight gain and what it seems like little or no change in muscle size.


Btw the gear im using is ROTEXMEDICA from Germany 250mg/ampule. Im pretty sure its 100% legit. So why am i not seeing what i want? dont get me wrong im not trying to get huge but atleast a couple of inches every where.

Do i just need to be patient and follow the cycle thru or up the dose????

please help i want to get some good results rite now im pissed