Ok

[hdd123]

Ok...when I was asking someone about which testosterone derivate/roid would be the best suited for beginner for the very first time, he did research and later offered me prop., stanazolol or also some more expensive stuff (which, he said is natural, but costs apr. xxx per amp.). I chose prop. (5%) and bought it. But later I very often read that the best best for beginners is long impact injectables (enanhate, etc.). Is it true? I know that prop needs to be injected every second day, because it breaks down very fast and cyp., enanh. are long impact tests., but I don't know the effects of them, difference between cyp., enanh. When each of them are used the best?etc.?
P.S. I'm not goin' run prop. anyway...maybe orals'd be quite good choice for the very first time?

[Lemonada8]

A) edit out price... read forum rules
B) people say test e is best for beginner cause of the lack of injections...
C) and when you chose prop... what do u mean by the 5%?
D) people say prop causes the less amount of bloat, but its all basically the same, just a difference between detection times, and the amount of ester on the test molecule...
E) do you have a good pct?
F) what are you planning to do? like amounts... most people recommend 500 mg/week

[shifty_git]

A) edit out price... read forum rules
B) people say test e is best for beginner cause of the lack of injections...
C) and when you chose prop... what do u mean by the 5%?
D) people say prop causes the less amount of bloat, but its all basically the same, just a difference between detection times, and the amount of ester on the test molecule...
E) do you have a good pct?
F) what are you planning to do? like amounts... most people recommend 500 mg/week

great minds think alike!!

[hdd123]

A) edit out price... read forum rules
B) people say test e is best for beginner cause of the lack of injections...
C) and when you chose prop... what do u mean by the 5%?
D) people say prop causes the less amount of bloat, but its all basically the same, just a difference between detection times, and the amount of ester on the test molecule...
E) do you have a good pct?
F) what are you planning to do? like amounts... most people recommend 500 mg/week

Well 5% is the strenght (it's printed on the amp., there is also 1% prop.) of the 1ml amp. I bought xxx 20 amps., which seems to be for medical usage. Do I've to utilize all the amp. at one injection time (I don't know how much mgs it contains). How about stanazolol,... orals?

[shifty_git]

Well 5% is the strenght (it's printed on the amp., there is also 1% prop.) of the 1ml amp. I bought farmak (Ukrainian pharmacetic firm) 20 amps., which seems to be for medical usage. Do I've to utilize all the amp. at one injection time (I don't know how much mgs it contains). How about stanazolol,... orals?

5% means NOTHING.

Whats the mg per ml?

[hdd123]

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[ChuckLee]

Duhhh... I don't know? Maybe it means 50mg/ml.

http://*******.ws/shop/products_pict...propionate.jpg

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[ChuckLee]

I want to be banned.

I see...

[shifty_git]

Duhhh... I don't know? Maybe it means 50mg/ml.

http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxproducts_pictu...propionate.jpg

*edit - i'll edit that just in case its a language barrier and don't like being rude to people.

[Lemonada8]

Well 5% is the strenght (it's printed on the amp., there is also 1% prop.) of the 1ml amp. I bought farmak (Ukrainian pharmacetic firm) 20 amps., which seems to be for medical usage. Do I've to utilize all the amp. at one injection time (I don't know how much mgs it contains). How about stanazolol,... orals?

5% test-prop??!??!?!?! Umm...... thats only 50 mg/ml so... u gonna need 1 amp per injection atleast.... most prop solutions are 75mg/ml or 100mg/ml... so by the percentages it would be 7.5% prop or 10% prop... thats what i am guessing.... and i cant really help u on orals... i dont wanna kill my liver thats why i dont do them...

[shifty_git]

No price discussion dude - edit ya post.

Test E or C is recommended as most noobs wont be able to stick to eod injections.. but if you can handle all the injections its fine.

Not sure what you mean by 5% though?!?!

[Lemonada8]

^^^ HA i actually got to it before u :P

[shifty_git]

^^^ HA i actually got to it before u :P

I feel like slitting my wrists now... i've been beaten for once.... lol

at me

[inky-e]

I feel like slitting my wrists now... i've been beaten for once.... lol

at me

Don't do it!The feeling will pass,then you get even!

[hdd123]

Don't do it!The feeling will pass,then you get even!

EEE...now is MY bout to post - sorry, but I really have no clue what u meaned with this, I'd probably say it's out of the topic: there's some guys post replied by your comment and that is inserted in this topic.
Please, say concrete and clearly what u meaned, ok?

[Lemonada8]

damn... i guess 1 out of 2 aint bad

oh and ditto

[Lemonada8]

orals.... well do a forum search for them...
A) they kill ur liver
B) you wont get as much gains
C) most people dont recommend a oral only cycle
D) if ur scared of needles, then you will only be dissapointed with orals because of the difference of results from oral to injectable

[Lemonada8]

well if u do, make sure u do it right and not just cut all ur tendons...
J/K!!!!!!!!!

[ChuckLee]

You haven't edited the price yet. Baaaaaaad

Reported
CL

[Lemonada8]

and you really need to edit out the price, cause ur gonna open urself to scammers... read the rules...

[shifty_git]

and you really need to edit out the price, cause ur gonna open urself to scammers... read the rules...

Not just scammers but a suspension or a ban.

[Lemonada8]

Not just scammers but a suspension or a ban.

ouch...

[Lemonada8]

..... lol dude... just edit that last post.... and edit out the price..

SERIOUSLY...

[hdd123]

..... lol dude... just edit that last post.... and edit out the price..

SERIOUSLY...

?!?!

U mean how much it costed per amp.? Well I paid apr. xxx per ampule.

[Lemonada8]

and truthfully i have no idea what the 5% means... never heard of it .... id guess its 50mg/ml but i cant be sure... ok yes its 50 mg/ml... now edit that post... ur breakin one of the cardinal rules...

[Lemonada8]

Haha Rofl!!!!!!!!! ^^^^

[Lemonada8]

ok DELETE UR PRICES IN YOUR POSTS

[hdd123]

ok DELETE UR PRICES IN YOUR POSTS

Hummy?!

[ChuckLee]

OK dude, time to report it more seriously.
We advised you...

CL

[Lemonada8]

and the first one... and the link to the pic....

[Lemonada8]

i checked out the site... its 50mg/ml

k GJ... ok now we can help you

[shifty_git]

i checked out the site... its 50mg/ml

k GJ... ok now we can help you

Kool - now we have a base to work from.

[hdd123]

i checked out the site... its 50mg/ml

k GJ... ok now we can help you

Ok can I run prop. with proviron, in pct I can get some 2000 IU ampules of hcg (already blended- only needs to be injected) , too. I've 20 amps., I'm going to inject them every 2. or 3. day. I'm reall beginner and need advice for the cycle that damaged my hpta to zero and have no impact on sperm production or testicle run-in, and after cycle I can get back my testosterone as before (so, if I change my mind, I can say bye after the cycle to roids forever).

P.S. HOW ABOUT STANAZOLOL OR WETHER WINSTROL?

[shifty_git]

Ok can I run prop. with proviron, in pct I can get some 2000 IU ampules of hcg (already blended- only needs to be injected) , too. I've 20 amps., I'm going to inject them every 2. or 3. day. I'm reall beginner and need advice for the cycle that damaged my hpta to zero and have no impact on sperm production or testicle run-in, and after cycle I can get back my testosterone as before (so, if I change my mind, I can say bye after the cycle to roids forever).

P.S. HOW ABOUT STANAZOLOL OR WETHER WINSTROL?

Any steroid will effect hpta.

[ChuckLee]

i did it immediately while quoting

[Lemonada8]

thats what i figured when i read some of ur verbage .... so anyways.... back to the original post...

B) people say test e is best for beginner cause of the lack of injections...
C) and when you chose prop... what do u mean by the 5%?
D) people say prop causes the less amount of bloat, but its all basically the same, just a difference between detection times, and the amount of ester on the test molecule...
E) do you have a good pct?
F) what are you planning to do? like amounts... most people recommend 500 mg/week

[shifty_git]

Ok...when I was asking someone about which testosterone derivate/roid would be the best suited for beginner for the very first time, he did research and later offered me prop., stanazolol or also some more expensive stuff (which, he said is natural, but costs apr. xxx per amp.). I chose prop. (5%) and bought it. But later I very often read that the best best for beginners is long impact injectables (enanhate, etc.). Is it true? I know that prop needs to be injected every second day, because it breaks down very fast and cyp., enanh. are long impact tests., but I don't know the effects of them, difference between cyp., enanh. When each of them are used the best?etc.?
P.S. I'm not goin' run prop. anyway...maybe orals'd be quite good choice for the very first time?

Right, now lets all start again.

Don't go for oral only cycle fella, gains will be mainly water based and pro's Vs con's is unfavourable.

As for the difference between the Prop ester and Enan/Cyp ester, the prop ester is much faster acting and has a lower half/active life, so obviously more frequent injections (eod) which is why the less frequent injections of the enan/cyp is recommended for a first timer.

Check out this thread by Anthony Roberts on what difference the ester can make to the compound as in regard to gains / results.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=313854

[ChuckLee]

Does anyone know his stats?

[Lemonada8]

Does anyone know his stats?

i dont... i was just answering his ?'s causes well he''s already got it... but good point...

what are your stats?

age?
weight?
Height?
bodyfat %?
lifting exp?
hows your diet?

[hdd123]

i dont... i was just answering his ?'s causes well he''s already got it... but good point...

what are your stats?

age?
weight?
Height?
bodyfat %?
lifting exp?
hows your diet?

1. age- 20 (steroids and hormones r adviseable no younger than 18 yo, because then the growth usually stops)
2. weight- saltatory, somewhere between 79 and 83 (kg).
3. height- 180 cm
4. bodyfat- 24,4- 25,6
5. lifting exp- 4,5 years
6. Diet?- eat everything I want.