romanian naps

[gr8TEST1]

i have a quick question fellas that i cud really use some experienced knowledge from monitors, epxpers, and educated users, (one 8 nine)..lol

im looking into a future cycle aftre my cutting cycle and as you know i'm predisposed to male pattern baldness..

5 foot 9, 180 pounds, 10 % bf
lots of cycles under my belts excluding all dht derivatives...winny, primo, masteron, tren, proviron, (only var) is the esception to my cycles as its been fairly undestructible to my hairline.

anyways, id like to cycle in naps dbols at 5 mgs as a kick start in my cycle, but since dbol is not only 17 alpha akyllated, but it cud indeed exaSCERBATTE mpb, but if i use it from weeks 1-5 lets say

weeks 1-5 naps dbol 15- mgs ed (kickstart), wud this still expedite a predisposition of mpb since its fairly low dosed, (and i personally resppond well to low dosages). my receptors arent super saturated with androgens just yet
weeks-12 enanthate- 400 mgs shot on mon, thurs with its 3.5 half life in the body-(androgen, TEST)
weeks-10 nandrolone 300 mgs per week 150 onj mon, 150 on thurs
weeks-8-14 var at 40 mgs ed(mild dht) to solidify and harden up any excess bloat towards the end of my cycle and to also maintain a state of anabolloism since its anabolic as the enanthate ester vtakes 2 weeks to clear out.

hcg...500 ius mon, thursday starting week 4 to keep the family jewels strong and make my pct a hell of alot easier.

nolva and clomid mfor pct since its all i got. for 6-8 weekx

nolva at 20mgs ed, clomid at 25-50 mgs ed.

the main question is if the dbol wud aggravate mpb as my kicjstart at only 15 -20 mgs ed for 4 weeks, or does it really matter 40 mgs of 15 mgs ed because the cumulative effect of methandroisendione willo still build up its alpha beta receptors over the course of 4 weeks at 15 mgs just as harsh as say 40 mgs ed for 4 weeks.

can i get away with 15 mgs of dbol ed for 4 weeks and NOT see any hair shedding? or wud u recommend it not at al...

all thoughts are welcomed into my dilemmna.

thankx guys for ur input in advance

[stallion_1]

i have a quick question fellas that i cud really use some experienced knowledge from monitors, epxpers, and educated users, (one 8 nine)..lol

im looking into a future cycle aftre my cutting cycle and as you know i'm predisposed to male pattern baldness..

5 foot 9, 180 pounds, 10 % bf
lots of cycles under my belts excluding all dht derivatives...winny, primo, masteron, tren, proviron, (only var) is the esception to my cycles as its been fairly undestructible to my hairline.

anyways, id like to cycle in naps dbols at 5 mgs as a kick start in my cycle, but since dbol is not only 17 alpha akyllated, but it cud indeed exaSCERBATTE mpb, but if i use it from weeks 1-5 lets say

weeks 1-5 naps dbol 15- mgs ed (kickstart), wud this still expedite a predisposition of mpb since its fairly low dosed, (and i personally resppond well to low dosages). my receptors arent super saturated with androgens just yet
weeks-12 enanthate- 400 mgs shot on mon, thurs with its 3.5 half life in the body-(androgen, TEST)
weeks-10 nandrolone 300 mgs per week 150 onj mon, 150 on thurs
weeks-8-14 var at 40 mgs ed(mild dht) to solidify and harden up any excess bloat towards the end of my cycle and to also maintain a state of anabolloism since its anabolic as the enanthate ester vtakes 2 weeks to clear out.

hcg...500 ius mon, thursday starting week 4 to keep the family jewels strong and make my pct a hell of alot easier.

nolva and clomid mfor pct since its all i got. for 6-8 weekx

nolva at 20mgs ed, clomid at 25-50 mgs ed.

the main question is if the dbol wud aggravate mpb as my kicjstart at only 15 -20 mgs ed for 4 weeks, or does it really matter 40 mgs of 15 mgs ed because the cumulative effect of methandroisendione willo still build up its alpha beta receptors over the course of 4 weeks at 15 mgs just as harsh as say 40 mgs ed for 4 weeks.

can i get away with 15 mgs of dbol ed for 4 weeks and NOT see any hair shedding? or wud u recommend it not at al...

all thoughts are welcomed into my dilemmna.

thankx guys for ur input in advance

it sounds to me like ur only concerned about the dbol increasing the risk of u becoming bald but not too concerned about the test or deca.

well let me just say that we first need to look at the androgenic levels of each steroid. dbol has a low androgenic level ranging at 40-60, and test has an androgenic level of 100. since test is higher here, then id be more concerned about the test than the dbol,for test is more prone to increase ur risk. deca has a level of 37, thats why it is sometimes praised over test. now since ur prone to balness and are running 400 mg of test, id be kinda hesitant.

[gr8TEST1]

i respect, and understand ur point of view. but i am taking 5 alpha reductase inhibitors to limit the conversion of test to dht thatll battle to circulate in the scalp.

as we all know, the 5 alpha reductase im taking will not have any effect on dbol whatsoever. its inevitable, so i kindda figured if i lowered the dosage on the naps dbols if id have a chance of overidding the hairloss. for all i know, the overall effect of 15 mgs in 4 weeks could build up nast levels in my blood and facilitae mpbs on my ens. its kindda either the cululkative effect on totality of 15 mgs for 4 weeks thatll do it mto me, or just in general 10, 15, 15, or even 40 mgs of dbol will still f--k me that im asking. is 15 mgs a safe bet for 4-5 weeks is all ima sking.

please all other advice from educated brothers would really help me out b4 i purchase...

[gr8TEST1]

also,

please show me where deca converts to dht in the livere cause it dont stallion...therfore, limited negligent..the enanthate however, un have a point, but a daily dosage of avodart takx care of that. but im afraid it dont help out with dbol and i ws just wondering if i ccut my dosage if it wud cut my risks. simple question requiring a simple answer.

is one8nine in the house. EDUCATE ME. i cud also use ar monitors and magic to tutor me. it wud me alot to me bros i know even kratos has gr8 knowledge on this as a suffering victim at one pojt from what i read on a recent thread. all eduacted men are who i welcome into this thread.

and i appreciate all comments, knowledgs and help along with support. thats what this site shud bne all about.

thanks men.

[stallion_1]

i never said deca turns into dht, show me where i said that

[gr8TEST1]

maybe i mistakened u for includin that comment in with the deca. my bad

but hows bout sum answers instead of all comments, no offense fellas.
anyone???

[sitries]

from.my.research.and.through.waching.a.few/friends.use.it......dbol.is.one.of.the.worst.culpr its.for.mpb

if.your.already.going.to.be.using.test,deca.and.an avar,then/is.it.really.worth.ttaking.an.extra.15mg.of.dbol?? ????Definately.not.IMO

If.you.cant.gain.off.test.deca.then.youv.got.probl ems!!!

if.yor.that.bothered.about.getting.a.kickstart.the n.use.something.less.androgenic.like.superdrol,tbo l,or.hdrol

ps.sorry.about.the.full/stops!!!!need.a.new.keyboard

[JiGGaMaN]

I didnt take the time to read anyone elses post, but you are going to get hair loss regardless of what you run. the cycle looks pretty killer and will be pretty effective id imagine. As for the dbol, i personally found it to aggravate the scalp a bit, but its up to you.

[gr8TEST1]

appreciate your insight, however, i made a typo. its 200 mgs twice ew
and deca at 200 mgs twice per week. i was only running the naps at 15 mgs ed for 4 weeks and needeed an educated response or guesstimate from experienced users that are preidposed to tell me of wheher or not 15 mgs ed for 4 weekx wud tax the hairline at all, or im i f....d no matter what dos i run dbol at for 4 weeks.

keep in mind, i respond well to low doses of any orala genetically, so i m more concerned about the dosage if its as bad anyways as taking 40 ed..

tbol way too weak to use given my situation to gain more size..

[JiGGaMaN]

you gotta be joking me. Tbol > Dbol for sure, and id recommend Tbol for its lack of hair losing ability relative to dbol as well. Best oral in my book.

[MR_T]

bro my advice is to stay away from the dbol, dht derived roids are bad news for you hairline. Have you thought about a shorter ester test p\npp, more frequent injections but the gear kicks in immediately and you have less dead time in cycle? have never tried tbol so i can't comment there