
Originally Posted by
Jumbo18
this would be my second cycle.
my first had been a deca only cycle, however i'm going to include testosterone into my cycles . So i've been hearing most testosterone hold water, but what can i do to have that vascular look at the end of my cycle. would i need to include another substance such as winstrol though i hear its not good on your joints; or is it achievable with testosterone alone because i wanted to bulk up and lower my bodyfat% a bit to at least show my abs.