Test E/Dbol Cycle

[flaco99]

Hey guys planning on starting second cycle.

Test E 500mgs/week for 12 weeks
D-Bol 35 mgs/day weeks 1-4


My first cycle was Deca/Dbol and I was a stupid kid in high school that knew nothing and I ended up getting a bit of gyno. I want to make sure I don't make it worse so what would you guys say nolvadex would be enough throughouthe cycle? And if so much much? Thanks

[bahrianite]

yeah i would run the nolva through out then!!!how much you need to run,i am not sure bcoz sum say 10mg and some say 20 mg every day,so wait or sum 1 else to tell you how much you would need!!!

[sinny]

forget nolva,you need a good AI like letro,adex etc..do a little more research bro,education in this game goes a long way

[sinny]

forget nolva,you need a good AI like letro,adex etc..do a little more research bro,education in this game goes a long way

i said adex myself,i was using letro and adex as an example,most men can not use letro as its so very harsh,i myself am fine with it but my cycles are quite big..also if using dbol use them week 1-4 and run your test week 1-12,front load the test as imo this is better..,the dbol will then become a kick start to a nice little cycle,if i could i would add some decca in there also around 25-300mg weeks 1-8 also frontloading the deca,if no deca is available try npp-this does not need frontloading

[thebeast71]

why do ppl do dbol and test-e togther?
isent dbol just testosterone?

[bahrianite]

i dont think he needs letro!!!for god's sake,letro is very harsh and this cycle is not very hard ,nolva will take care of things very nicly!!!!


if dbol is test ,then why do we take any other drug (decca,tren,etc) ,they are all derivatives of the test....!!!they all give different results!!!!usage o all these depends on the desired look!!!

dbol is used to kick start the cycle!!!so by the time you are done with the dbol,your test kicks in!!!

[sinny]

i dont think he needs letro!!!for god's sake,letro is very harsh and this cycle is not very hard ,nolva will take care of things very nicly!!!!


if dbol is test ,then why do we take any other drug (decca,tren,etc) ,they are all derivatives of the test....!!!they all give different results!!!!usage o all these depends on the desired look!!!

dbol is used to kick start the cycle!!!so by the time you are done with the dbol,your test kicks in!!!

letro was used as an example,never ever run juice without running an AI...

[bahrianite]

you should be more specific man the guy is here for speciic advice,i am sure you meant good!!!but please be specific!!!


for the beast

yeah he is going to be using the dbol for the first 4 or 6 weeks (max),orals should not be run longer than that!!!and then test for the rest of the cycle,

running the serm/AI through out in a cycle is better bcoz you dont have to worry about gyno,bloat and all!!!in this case he would be running nolva at around 20 mgs daily!!!it wouldnt realy hinder gains as some people say it does,it would just keep the bloat away and thats nice!!!

[bahrianite]

i have seen some people use an AI in their pct as well!!!

but clomid and nolva are great for pct no doubt!!!but that doesnt mean he cant run it in his cycle too!!!nolva binds to the estrogen receptors and hence does not let gyno form!!!so i really dont think adex would be needed but it can be taken at .25 daily!!!but i would still stick with nolva at 10 or 20 mgs a day!!!

[thebeast71]

you should be more specific man the guy is here for speciic advice,i am sure you meant good!!!but please be specific!!!


for the beast

yeah he is going to be using the dbol for the first 4 or 6 weeks (max),orals should not be run longer than that!!!and then test for the rest of the cycle,

running the serm/AI through out in a cycle is better bcoz you dont have to worry about gyno,bloat and all!!!in this case he would be running nolva at around 20 mgs daily!!!it wouldnt realy hinder gains as some people say it does,it would just keep the bloat away and thats nice!!!

ahh okay thank you.

so i could use nolva for my AI and PCT, is that correct?

[thebeast71]

ohhhh okay i get it so if he is doing:


Test E 500mgs/week for 12 weeks
D-Bol 35 mgs/day weeks 1-4


week 1-4 he is going to go dbol and 5-12 he is going to start the test E?
then start taking the nolva after or during?

[MalibuD]

I would not take the letro unless you have to, but I would always keep it on hand while cycling. I would save the Nolva for pct and run an AI like Adex. I am Gyno prone so I run Adex at .25 every day some get away with eod or every third day. Just my two cents.

[thebeast71]

soo AI's are what u use during your cycle.
and PCT like nolvaq you run after your cycle?

[Ernst]

There are so many things wrong in this thread.

To Flaco99: I would go with adex, and keep plenty of nolva and some letro handy. You may have some predisposition to gyno it sounds like, so you should be prepared for the worst. What did you have planned for pct? Stats?

[Reed]

There are so many things wrong in this thread.

To Flaco99: I would go with adex, and keep plenty of nolva and some letro handy. You may have some predisposition to gyno it sounds like, so you should be prepared for the worst. What did you have planned for pct? Stats?

Yes I have to agree....

Flaco Why don't you give us some stats

Age
Height
Weight
BF
Training experience
Diet
PCT knowledge

If your gyno prone then go with the adex at .25mg ed or eod. But first take care of the gyno if possible. That would be be recommendation before you start your next cycle

[sinny]

There are so many things wrong in this thread.

To Flaco99: I would go with adex, and keep plenty of nolva and some letro handy. You may have some predisposition to gyno it sounds like, so you should be prepared for the worst. What did you have planned for pct? Stats?

this seems to be the voice of reason right here,somebodys paying attention

[MalibuD]

I knew someone was going to step in and handle this boggle!

[Ernst]

I always wanted to use that.

[sinny]

I always wanted to use that.

[flaco99]

Wow did not think this many people would reply to this post.lol Anywho I have been training for 2 years.
Age 25
Height 5'9"
Weight 170
Bodyfat 15-17 per. Yes I know a little high!

Ok I am going to try and get my hands on some arimidex but as far as pct goes wouldnt clomid alone be effective or should I throw something else in like nolva or maybe even tribulus