ideas for 2nd cycle

[laduem88]

im almost done with my first injectable cycle:

w 1-9: Test p 100mg eod
w 5-9: var 50-100mg ed
(started @ 50 then upped it to 100 mg)

pct:
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolvadex:40/40/20/20

might add clen in for the first 2 weeks of pct at a low dose for energy


anyways at the beginning of the cycle i was 197 pounds 15% bf
now i have 2 more weeks left of the cycle but im 216 pounds 13-14% bf...im 6 foot btw


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now i know it might be early to start thinking about my next cycle but i have money now so i want to get some of my cycle soon....what are some suggestions?

i was thinking maybe

1-4 dbol or tbol
1-14 test e
1-13 deca
8-15 var


i have no idea though just wanted some input (never used test e or c)..i did love test p though but the lab i used was a grade A lab and i dont know if i can get the same lab again...injections were not bad at all

[Mammon]

if your going to run the var at the end id run it until week 16..

[T-MOS]

its a little much for a second cycle, usually good to add only one compound, but it looks good

make sure you take enough time off to let your body get back to normal blood levels

6' 216 is a good START for your height, how is your diet?? You should have been able to get to that without any steroids. but.....

[laduem88]

its a little much for a second cycle, usually good to add only one compound, but it looks good

make sure you take enough time off to let your body get back to normal blood levels

6' 216 is a good START for your height, how is your diet?? You should have been able to get to that without any steroids. but.....

yea, well 98% of the people on here could accomplish there bodies without steroids....i got a couple of questions though

1. for my first cycle could i run var at a very low dosage (like 10mg) through my pct? iv heard of people doing that but idk so i just wanted to hear some input

2. for my first cycle is my pct the best it could be as far as the clomid/nolva dosages? any other suggestions for it?

3. I dont want to get over 225 pounds...im more interested in getting to 10-8% bf while being around 205-210...so for my second cycle id want it to be more of a cutting/recomp cycle...what do you think would be a great recomp cycle? maybe test p/masteron/var? my diet/cardio/lifting are good

[Mammon]

var through pct.. no
origional pct is fine.

then for the second cycle id drop the deca.. use the tbol not the dbol..

[CHUCKYthentic]

id go tbol over dbol as well, you ll get better solid gains IMO
how did that var at 100mg/day treat u?
ive got var comin up in my next cycle and plan on runnin it at 80mgs/day for 6 weeks

[laduem88]

id go tbol over dbol as well, you ll get better solid gains IMO
how did that var at 100mg/day treat u?
ive got var comin up in my next cycle and plan on runnin it at 80mgs/day for 6 weeks

well yesterday was the first day i did 100mg...long story short i was planning on doing 50mg but i then got a package i thought got seized so i have enough to run more...ill let you know though...its weird though i thought var killed your appetite but i find that im hungry

[CHUCKYthentic]

lol damn lucky on that pack, nice surprise
ya the appetite and var thing worries me a little cause itll be in at the start of my cycle, but i figure the test will over ride the var there and my appetite will be great

[laduem88]

ok so for my second cycle

1-? (4 or 5) tbol @ 40mg ed
1-14 Test e @ 800mg ew
8-16 var @ 80mg ed


idk about the test e though what are thoughts about doing test p again or sust? also how long should i run tbol and im not quite sure if 40mg is too high

[Mammon]

id go with a single ester for sure.. id give the enanthate a run since you have used prop.
either one is fine tho

[laduem88]

id go with a single ester for sure.. id give the enanthate a run since you have used prop.
either one is fine tho

yea i think i might try test e..a break from eod injections will be nice

[CHUCKYthentic]

if you dont wanna do enanthate id go with prop, screw sust. but damn 14 weeks of prop, i dont think i could do it. id go with the enanthate you ll will like it. i prefer it during bulking JMO. not sure on the tbol, never ran it, someone will know though.
800 is pretty damn high man, id stick with 600/week
why you not sure on the test e?
you guna have some adex on hand?

[laduem88]

if you dont wanna do enanthate id go with prop, screw sust. but damn 14 weeks of prop, i dont think i could do it. id go with the enanthate you ll will like it. i prefer it during bulking JMO. not sure on the tbol, never ran it, someone will know though.
800 is pretty damn high man, id stick with 600/week
why you not sure on the test e?
you guna have some adex on hand?

ill have adex on hand probably use it .25mg ed when i start noticing sides..yea might do 600 or 700mg...im not sure on the test e because i dont want to be bloated, this cycle is going to be a recomp cycle

[CHUCKYthentic]

the adex will help with the bloat