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    No Hairloss on test so far

    Just thought i would update people. I am on 400mg Test cyp EW in my 5th week. I am very prone to MBP, but so far i have had no hairloss( additional or sped-up). I was on Avodart (dutasteride) 2.5mg before the cycle and upped it to 3mg during the cycle.

    I am also using nizoral shampoo and Spiro 5%

    I am going to throw in some Var 40mg ED and see how it goes. I will keep people posted.

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    I have been running VAR 80mg for about 2 weeks with the test, and still no hairloss...I never thought it was possible to run gear and not lose hair (if youre MPB prone), but thankfully you can...

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    How are your gains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slide View Post
    was on Avodart (dutasteride) 2.5mg before the cycle and upped it to 3mg during the cycle.
    Those sound like finasteride dosages to me. Those correct Slide?

    Sounds like you have a winning combo so far

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    haha no they are actually Dutasteride dose. The original clinical trials used 0.5mg dose, 2.5mg dose, and a 5mg dose. The 2.5mg dose was dramatically better at lowering scape DHT than the 0.5mg dose (all were better than fin). The studies also didn't show any liver toxicity or problems in the both the higher dosage groups.

    I have been on 2.5mg for many years now and it has worked very well.

    The gains are good. My strength has gone up a decent amount, I have lost body fat, and gained about 5 lbs so far, will probably gain another 5 more. I am keeping the calories down, as i dont want to gain much fat. I am happy with modest gains from this cycle.

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    Sounds familiar, thanks for the reminder. Interesting. Happy to hear about your results

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    hey slide, have you suffered any unwanted side effects from the duta or other hair lose medication? i have mpb too, and im on my first cycle now of dbol and test but havnt noticed any hair shedding, just regular hair loss. im not taking any hair loss products right now

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    If you are on Test then i would for sure jump on at least some Fin., but I like Dutas a lot better. I have not noticed any sides with the Dutas, just decreased libido, but with the test it is not an issue. That said i have a pretty low sex drive anyway, so for most people it is not a problem.

    Like i said before, i have been on heaps of this stuff and it is great. I also do Nizoral shampoo and spiro 5% topical. I used to only use the Dutas, but since i have thrown in the shampoo and Spiro, my hairloss has totally stopped.

    I have to give all the credit to the compounds as i would be totally bald if i didn't take them, and as is i still have a pretty good head of hair.

    My next cycle will have some Masteron in there so i will see how that goes with the hairloss.

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    Slide, May i get the exact gear you are on for your Hair "loss" or lack there of, I always loss hair on a cycle, no matter what I try to do.

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    Stolen from the web

    STEROIDS AND HAIR LOSS


    HAIR LOSS AND "JUICE"



    It used to be thought that having a full healthy head of hair and a muscular ripped body were contradictory, if not mutually exclusive propositions, after all if hair loss was related to DHT, and high male hormone levels, how could anyone maximize their own anabolic potential and not have to simultaneously deal with hair loss?? I am personally self absorbed and narcissistic enough to demand both, and have dedicated a great deal of time investigating just how I could have both. All I can tell you is that, after talking to literally hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders, and my own personal experience, it is possible, but you have to know what you're doing.



    In this piece I will delve into what effects certain "anabolic agents" consistently have on scalp hair, so you won't inadvertently compromise your hair, or perhaps miss out on some beneficial anabolic agents for fear they will. It may seem to some like I'm advocating the use of certain steroids or stacks, and perhaps I am. I've been training for more then 20 years, and have rally been around the block in this business. I have never had a desire to compete, but have successfully (and unsuccessfully at times) used various "anabolic agents" to stay in top shape, and will continue to do so.



    My commitment is simply to tell you in a straightforward, no B.S. way and which ones are safe to use. The medical and legal considerations and ramifications are obviously yours to deal with on an individual basis. As always, consult a "physician".


    Deca Durabolin - I've never had a problem with my hair on this one, neither have hundreds of other guys I've talked to. The safety of this steroid, as far as hairloss is concerned, stems from the fact that 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, instead of converting it to a stronger androgen like DHT, converts it to a very mild androgen called DHN. Taken in dosages of up to 300-400 mg weekly it shouldn't produce any hairloss problems, this is due to the fact that, being a highly HPTA supressive androgen, 300-400 mg are no more androgenic than our endogenous testosterone (supressed while we are taking it) would be.. One BIG word of caution: While you are taken Deca Durabolin never ever take 5AR blockers such as Proscar/Propecia, for it would block the conversion of nandrolone to DHN in tissues such as the scalp and the prostate, resulting in hairloss and BPH, which is what we are trying to avoid taking Deca.

    Testosterone cypionate, propionate, etc., androderm, sustanon 250: All of these are different testosterone preparations, they all have the same properties as far as hairloss is concerned: they convert to DHT via 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. That's the main reason why testosterone is so androgenic. However, if one takes testosterone along with a 5AR blocker such as Proscar it's not nearly that harmful for your hair. So, if you are concerned about hairloss and are taking testosterone, always use it along with Proscar. Take into account that DHT is an anti-estrogen and blocking it while your body has supraphysiological levels of testosterone might lead to gynecomastia, so it's advisable to combine Proscar with Arimidex (an aromatase inhibitor).

    Anadrol\50 - If you value your hair, don't touch this one with a ten foot pole. Nothing seems to control its negative effects on hair. Not Proscar, Not Nizoral, nothing...

    Dianabol -Same as Anadrol\50.

    Primobolan - One of the less androgenic steroids. If you are concerned about hairloss this steroid is for you. It's much more anabolic than it is androgenic.

    Oxandrolone (Anavar) - It's the safest steroid for your hair along with Primobolan and Deca.

    Boldenone (Equipoise) - After the Primo, Anavar and Deca this is probably one of the safest for your hair. Although it undergoes 5-alpha-reduction, its affinity for this enzyme is minimal, so there is very little conversion. Moreover, its 5-alpha-reduced form is not as androgenic as DHT.

    DHEA - Does not negatively affect hair in men. May help prevent hair loss by offsetting the binding of DHT to follicles. The product is a Disaster for women with hair loss. DHEA causes hair loss in women much like DHT in Men. DHEA discriminates against women.

    Androstenedione - The worst of all prohormones in the market. It has a low conversion to testosterone, around 5%, which is damn too low. Worse yet is the fact that, before converting to testosterone, androstenedione directly interacts with aromatase and 5AR, thus converting to estrogen and DHT prior to conversion to target hormone.. You will be far better of using testosterone than this scum.

    1-testosterone - A legal steroid, at least for the time being. It's very androgenic and very anabolic. Although it's a 5-alpha-reduced steroid it converts to DHT through an unknown pathway, so using Proscar along with it won't avoid DHT conversion. Its anabolic/androgenic ratio (~(1.5-2):1) is slightly higher than that of test (1:1). Be wary while using this product if you value your hair.

    As time goes on, certainly cleaner, anabolic agents will be developed. The vast majority of users I talked to, have been on Prpecia/Proscar and Nizoral, myself included (amongst many other things).



    Finally, take into account that you should also use topical spironolactone (2-5%) while juicing. This product directly antagonizes scalp ARs when used topically, hence it will be useful with any sort of steroid, even those that do not undergo 5-alpha-reduction.



    Conclusion: The safety stack as far as hairloss is concerned would be a cycle consisting of Primobolan, Oxandrolone and Deca. Take into account that Deca, although being very mild for your hair, is not nearly as safe as oxandrolone and primobolan as far as HPTA supression and gynecomastia is concerned. If you want to play it completely safe when using steroid and avoid jeopardizing your health (and not only your hair) use cycles consisting of Oxandrolone and Primobolan.

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    Slide, not sure if you are still checking the board, but all these months later, what was the result? How many weeks was your cycle and did you ever lose hair or shed? I never thought I was prone to MPB, but my last cycle - at week 10 - the hair started dropping. Dutas stopped it and begand to reverse it but I also stopped my cycle at week 12.

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