First Cycle 22 Year Old - Test E - Critique Please

[kronz]

Hey guys first cycle after a quick look over my plan to see if it's OK.

Stats

22
6"0
190lbs
Bout 15% BF
3 Years training
Diets Great

Heres what Ive come up with for my 10 WEEK Test E Cycle

WK1-10 TEST E @ 500MG/WEEK @ 250MGx2
WK7-13 HCG @ 250IU every 3rd day = Just over 4000iu total.
WK13 AND 14 - Nolvadex 40mg/day
WK15 AND 16 - Nolvadex 20mg/day

Only a couple of questions.

I have 5000iu HCG but this above only uses 4000 of it. Should I up the dosages just slightly to use it all?

How solid is the overall cycle? Seems pretty air tight to me and not too different from the usual beginners cycle.

Cheers

[kronz]

I'm also in the process of trying to acquire some Dianabol for the 1st month kick. But let's just assume this won't happen and the cycle stays as is.

Thanks

[urbanbody]

I don't think you need the dbol, I also think clomid and nolvadex would be better. But if all you have is the hcg just ya use it all split dosage into two.

[JinNtonic]

Dbol is fine. Cycle looks well planned out. Might want to add clomid to pct.

[Hazard]

clomid and nolva are a MUST IMO......

Also.... could you post your diet up? Just curious how great it is......

~Haz~

[kronz]

I don't think you need the dbol, I also think clomid and nolvadex would be better. But if all you have is the hcg just ya use it all split dosage into two.

Split dosage into 2?

You mean 2x2500iu?

The main question I have here guys is about Clomid (or lack of)

How genuinely important is it as part as PCT? I was under the impression HCG/Nolva would be sufficient.

[Kibble]

You are running the hCG through PCT only?

[kronz]

I'll be running HCG through the last 4 weeks of the TEST and then a further 3 weeks with Nolva.

[stevey_6t9]

ur abit to young. post up your diet

[D7M]

ur abit to young. post up your diet

x2....

[johnnyrv]

What about doing a cycle for 12weeks instead of10 weeks?

[kronz]

Hey guys won't go into numbers as I'm on my iPhone and would just take too long. Il eat average 7 meals a day with CPF ratios at roughly 40:40:20. On top of these il have a protein shake immediately after breakfast (which is mostly carbs) one pwo and one pre bed (casein) I'd describe it as almost 100% clean. Water is at about 4 litres a day. On creatine mono ATM but will drop that on cycle to avoid any additional water retention. Also just basic multis and glucosamine.

I know I'm young but I actually bought test e about a year ago an decided to wait it out another year and really focus on natural diet/training. I'm confident I'm ready to take the plunge.

Any further comments on my layout?

[marcus300]

Your to young IMHO and it isnt worth risking causing damage to yourself, your HPTA isnt fully developed yet and shutting it donw can cause you serious problems, these problems are something you dont want to be having in your 20's, my advice wait couple of more years and do it properly, change your diet up but dont use AAS.

[CHUCKYthentic]

^^^^exactly, dont know why the hell nobody mentioned this earlier

[TITANIUM]

Greattttttttttttttt.^^^^^^^

What's up Chucky???

Been working the trenches I see.

Keep up the good work bro!

Best

T

[Hazard]

^^^^exactly, dont know why the hell nobody mentioned this earlier

I was going to hit him with it next LOL

not to mention he doesn't know enough about PCT..... cycling..... or how to properly run HCG......

~Haz~

[CHUCKYthentic]

I was going to hit him with it next LOL

not to mention he doesn't know enough about PCT..... cycling..... or how to properly run HCG......

~Haz~

oh i miss a lot in a lot of posts too bro LOL

ya could def use some extensive pct and further AAS knowledge

Greattttttttttttttt.^^^^^^^

What's up Chucky???

Been working the trenches I see.

Keep up the good work bro!

Best

T

what up T! ya been doin a little here and there, been rather busy lately

[kronz]

No offense guys I've been through this episode on another board about a year ago. The "right age" for them seemed to be 21 so I copped an ear full for a while and sucked it up and waited a year. I'm not prepared to go through it again and wait until 25 which seems to be steroid.com's "proper age"

I know I'm lacking in the knowledge dept. but seems to me the more I read the more convoluted my opinions get.

So any help would be appreciated but if not that's cool too.

P.S Yes I may not know how to properly run HCG. Hence the thread.

[kronz]

Your to young IMHO and it isnt worth risking causing damage to yourself, your HPTA isnt fully developed yet and shutting it donw can cause you serious problems, these problems are something you dont want to be having in your 20's, my advice wait couple of more years and do it properly, change your diet up but dont use AAS.

I appreciate what you're saying man. I know you're one of the more knowledgeable guys around, I've read a bunch of your threads.

Either way I'm 100% committed to starting this cycle as soon as I'm confident with the layout. I've got solid years of training behind me as well as qualifications in personal training and exercise science (I know it probably means shit all when it comes to AAS) But I'm not newbie to training or eating properly. Only to AAS which is why I'm here.

[frignugs]

If your committed to it than good luck and giver shit man. First cycle rocks. Personally I would throw in some dbol to kick it, but that's just me.

Little tip to hit those cals that I like to do. Write down the foods your gonna eat in a day on your fridge everyday. And everything better be crossed off by the end off the day! Helped me plan out my meals and make sure I was getting everything in.

Good luck

[thenextcutler]

The "right age" for them seemed to be 21 so I copped an ear full for a while and sucked it up and waited a year. I'm not prepared to go through it again and wait until 25 which seems to be steroid.com's "proper age"

[marcus300]

No offense guys I've been through this episode on another board about a year ago. The "right age" for them seemed to be 21 so I copped an ear full for a while and sucked it up and waited a year. I'm not prepared to go through it again and wait until 25 which seems to be steroid.com's "proper age"

I know I'm lacking in the knowledge dept. but seems to me the more I read the more convoluted my opinions get.

So any help would be appreciated but if not that's cool too.

P.S Yes I may not know how to properly run HCG. Hence the thread.

If you want to run the risk of low test for the rest of your life because you didnt wait till your HPTA is fully developed thats your choice, personally i'd be more educated about it and do it right and to be honest there isnt a right way at your age, the right way is not to take anything what is going to shut down your system whats not fully functional.

Do I think you will listen> no i dont thats why I cant be a part of give advice to someone who is tunnel visioned.

Be sensible and develop your knowledge on foods, its will do you more good at your age and use what you have naturally which is high test levels.

Am out of here

[BJJ]

x2....

...x3

[nilrac]

Keep training naturally for now. At your age you should have plenty of natural test. Juice later...

[Big_gRunt]

6.0ft, 190lbs after 3 years solid training? At your age you should be able to take it a fair bit further without AAS. If you loose sexual performance by the time you're 30 because you messed up your HPTA at 22, then your girl will leave you for a skinny arse dude. Think about that for a while.

[Misery13]

to young...

[nilrac]

6.0ft, 190lbs after 3 years solid training? At your age you should be able to take it a fair bit further without AAS. If you loose sexual performance by the time you're 30 because you messed up your HPTA at 22, then your girl will leave you for a skinny arse dude. Think about that for a while.

[Hazard]

If you want to run the risk of low test for the rest of your life because you didnt wait till your HPTA is fully developed thats your choice, personally i'd be more educated about it and do it right and to be honest there isnt a right way at your age, the right way is not to take anything what is going to shut down your system whats not fully functional.

Do I think you will listen> no i dont thats why I cant be a part of give advice to someone who is tunnel visioned.

Be sensible and develop your knowledge on foods, its will do you more good at your age and use what you have naturally which is high test levels.

Am out of here

I'm with marcus here.....

The advice given on SOME of the other boards can be questionable at best..... 25 years old is recommended for a reason. It's not a conspiracy to keep the younger generation small.....

~Haz~

[LeroyB]

Wish I had the natural test of a 22yr old again.
By the way you are going to damage yourself most likely. Just wanted to put that out there. Should wait till after 25, not the opinion of the forum, its the opinion of modern medicine.