Bench amount age/weight consideration

[desant89]

I go to the gym with someone who is 50, 5'8" and 180lbs. I am 37, 6'3" and 255 lbs. I am so tired of his shit talking. He can put up 305, and I can put up 315. he keeps telling me how strong he is pound for pound. To me, he looks like a really little man. He keeps saying age, weight, age weight! Never considers that he competed when he was younger, and works out 5 days a week compared to my 2or 3, and has a great diet compared to my crappy one.

My question is, how much strength do you lose at age 50 if you never stopped training?

Also is your difference in body weight that huge of a difference?

How much easier is it if you are shorter to put up more weight?

Amazing how people think when they are older. He is using every excuse in the book to say how strong he is....I'm 50, I'm only 180lbs, My shoulder hurts.....I just wanted to get some facts from people who have lifted all their lives. Thanks!

[terraj]

You know that you have 4 threads with the same question.

Don't go to gym him...

[desant89]

You know that you have 4 threads with the same question.

Don't go to gym him...

Yeah, the site is moving slow for some reason, and kept giving me a timeout error. Did not seem like it was posting, and then they all popped up.

I would like to hear how much strength people lose as they reach 50 though. Not just for him, I am just curious. What he says makes no sense at all. Also how much height factors in I would like to know.

[cherrydrpepper]

How I handle this

him "haha I put up 305 and I only weigh 180. You can only put up 10 more lbs than me even though you weigh 255!"

me "who cares I'm stronger than you. Don't try to butter it up cause no one cares. I put up 315. All your years of powerlifting and you can only put up 305. You lose. Get over it"

[MotoLifter]

fck the bench press! go over to the squat rack and see whos balls ar bigger...


Moto

[endus]

Why do you care? I alway follow this motto - they will always be someone who is richer, stronger, better looking and yes, younger right around the corner. So why fight it.

As for me, I'm 45 and am much stronger than when I was 30 (lifted then too but took some time off in between). I don't do bench press anymore since I workout alone but I typically do 140lb dumbells for final set. In my 30's I did 110lb and that would be max. Just do your thing and see who looks better in the mirror. Better gauge.

[bigslick7878]

Who cares.

[FireGuy]

How I handle this

him "haha I put up 305 and I only weigh 180. You can only put up 10 more lbs than me even though you weigh 255!"

me "who cares I'm stronger than you. Don't try to butter it up cause no one cares. I put up 315. All your years of powerlifting and you can only put up 305. You lose. Get over it"

This would work well except for the fact that the guy who posted this is the one who weighs 255 and the guy he is complaining about is the one that weighs 180.

[FireGuy]

I go to the gym with someone who is 50, 5'8" and 180lbs. I am 37, 6'3" and 255 lbs. I am so tired of his shit talking. He can put up 305, and I can put up 315. he keeps telling me how strong he is pound for pound. To me, he looks like a really little man. He keeps saying age, weight, age weight! Never considers that he competed when he was younger, and works out 5 days a week compared to my 2or 3, and has a great diet compared to my crappy one.
My question is, how much strength do you lose at age 50 if you never stopped training?

Also is your difference in body weight that huge of a difference?

How much easier is it if you are shorter to put up more weight?

Amazing how people think when they are older. He is using every excuse in the book to say how strong he is....I'm 50, I'm only 180lbs, My shoulder hurts.....I just wanted to get some facts from people who have lifted all their lives. Thanks!

And you are accusing him of making excuses?


He does sound like an annoying type of guy but the fact it bothers you isnt much better.

[nbaylot33]

Shorter people can get weight easier. They don't need to go as far. But yeah you should be able to get more than 315 unless your not going for strength.

[Noles12]

This would work well except for the fact that the guy who posted this is the one who weighs 255 and the guy he is complaining about is the one that weighs 180.

He said correctly. He showed what the old man says "him" then says what the OP "me" should say in return

[desant89]

I just don't care like he does. He goes 5 days a week, and I go 2 or 3. I eat like a moose, and he don't. I just tell him that's why though. He does not consider all of that, and just asks people who is stronger pound for pound. My take is like, you better be if you go to the gym that much, and for that many years. But he just carries on about "yeah, but I'm 50, and only 180!" All of the other stuff does not count!

I know, I know......Just getting it off my chest cause he actually asks people at the gym too. That gets annoying. I am HUGE compared to him too. I got a belly, but I am a pretty big dude. He is pretty defined, but not big at all! I laugh at him now.

[not so slim]

it should be a competition unless you make it one . go to the gym with some one else! besides bench is only one exercise!!!

[CMB]

respect for him, don't know too many people doing 300+ on bench at 50.

my friends dad does clean and jerks and he is 72 and that was really impressive.

[nbaylot33]

Yeah I gotta give respect too. Is he strong in his other lifts or only the bench? But constant bragging is annoying, I have a few in my gym.

[desant89]

respect for him, don't know too many people doing 300+ on bench at 50.

my friends dad does clean and jerks and he is 72 and that was really impressive.

Wow, I would not consider myself a bodybuilder by far, but I would think that anyone at age 50 who competed in their 20's, and never stopped training 5 days a week should be benching 300. I know a 46 yr old that can still bench 600. Also, another thing I guess is should of have added is he uses gear!

He is not weak without it, and is pretty strong at all exercises, but again, maybe I am naive, but if you trained your whole life, should you not be strong at 50? I am so sick of hearing the weight thing. I can go get anyone of the street that weighs 290, and hardly EVER trains, and he would say cause he is 280, he should be benching over 350. I just call him big guy now! I cannot take it anymore. Apparently the amount of training, and diet means nothing.....

[FireGuy]

He said correctly. He showed what the old man says "him" then says what the OP "me" should say in return

You are right, I stand corrected.

[warrhoggxx]

My question is, how much strength do you lose at age 50 if you never stopped training?
check out Louie Simmons

I just don't care like he does.

then why the post?

[Hobbitjones]

if your talking about pure strength i agree with other guy. Respect goes to him for his age and still heavy lifting. But i do believe in the pound for pound its true representation of strength. At different sizes everyones body is built standard to them what you do in training is what makes the difference. Your only lifting 50 pounds over your weight where as he is doing 135 over his? thats a lot in my opinion. For your to be pound for pound equal its x x 315.
255 180
divide his bench weight by his weight take the 1.75 multiply it times your weight thats 446 lbs thats how much you would have to lift to be equal in my eyes to him pound for pound. Give props to the man for busting his ass!

[shortybrolick]

The old man spanked your boots

[Hobbitjones]

^^^ lmao this guy says it all

[nbaylot33]

if your talking about pure strength i agree with other guy. Respect goes to him for his age and still heavy lifting. But i do believe in the pound for pound its true representation of strength. At different sizes everyones body is built standard to them what you do in training is what makes the difference. Your only lifting 50 pounds over your weight where as he is doing 135 over his? thats a lot in my opinion. For your to be pound for pound equal its x x 315.
255 180
divide his bench weight by his weight take the 1.75 multiply it times your weight thats 446 lbs thats how much you would have to lift to be equal in my eyes to him pound for pound. Give props to the man for busting his ass!

There is no true rep. of strength. People who are shorter might be lighter but they can lift just as much or more than somebody taller and heavier because they don't have to go down as far.

[russiandave]

Grow up and tell him to do the same

[npc2010]

You lose 2.33lbs of strength for every year over 50 unless you were born on leap year and you have red hair, then its 2.44. Then you take that weight and divide it by pie, and that should give you absolutely NOTHING!!! So YEAH, he should still do a fair amount of weight! Oh and thats all in one arm. He will eventually get to where one arm wont go up and he will bench himself into a circle!

Tell you what to do.....Next time he brags about his bench press and it bothers you that much. Offer to spot him, when you unrack the weight for him......lean forward and TEABAG his ass! THEN GET UP CONGRADULATE HIM ON HIS LIFT AND HIS NEW IMPRINT ON HIS FOREHEAD!!

Then go concentrate on YOUR bench and STOP WORRING ABOUT WHAT AN OLD MAN CAN LIFT OR WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT YOURS!!!

Every gym you go to there is somebody that is gonna try to argue this and that and it can get to be a huge habit! Focus on your workout and then he wont say anything when you are benching 450.