Which cutting cycle to use

[churchill5151]

I've been dieting using the ketogenic diet this summer. I have done it every summer for the past 3 years. This is the first year I've used AAS and it will also be the first year I use a cycle of AAS during my cutting phase.

I've been asking people I know at my gym what their opinion of the best cycle to use in order to retain the most amount of muscle for some one of my limited cycle experience. I've been told a couple of times to use tren(with prop), but as I only have one cycle under my belt, I don't think I'm ready for that. I sort of had my mind made up on using Masteron with Test prop, but I'm wondering if masteron is something that some one should only use once they're down to single digit BF%? Any advice or opinions would be appreciated.

I'm 26, 6'2, 230 lbs, 14% BF, 1 cycle of test prop 125 mg/EOD under my belt.

[Kibble]

I was having GREAT success with clen and t3. I was only using AAS to try and preserve the muscle I gained during my first bulking cycle.

My idea of a cutting cycle would be a moderate test doseage, with clen, t3 and adequate cardio

[churchill5151]

I was having GREAT success with clen and t3. I was only using AAS to try and preserve the muscle I gained during my first bulking cycle.

My idea of a cutting cycle would be a moderate test doseage, with clen, t3 and adequate cardio

I had heard that clen may contribute to making some AAS less effective? Did you find this was so? What kind of test and dosage did you run?

[supersetman]

I would also clen and t3 with test, it will be very effective for cutting.

[Bossman]

I had heard that clen may contribute to making some AAS less effective? Did you find this was so? What kind of test and dosage did you run?

Clen isn't catabolic and doesn't effect AAS negatively.

I agree that if you're cutting, test alone would help hold the muscle while you diet. Masteron is a hardening drug that you won't appreciate until you're well below 10%.

Low bf% can be achieved without clen or T3 if you have your diet/cardio down. I don't use t3 at all and only add clen when Im approx 10% bf.

[churchill5151]

Clen isn't catabolic and doesn't effect AAS negatively.

I agree that if you're cutting, test alone would help hold the muscle while you diet. Masteron is a hardening drug that you won't appreciate until you're well below 10%.

Low bf% can be achieved without clen or T3 if you have your diet/cardio down. I don't use t3 at all and only add clen when Im approx 10% bf.

I've heard Clen can actually be somewhat anabolic actually. Thanks for the bit about masteron, seems like it wouldn't be worth using right now. What is the minimum dose of test to use while cutting though? I was thinking 100 mg/EOD, could I go lower or would it not be worth it to go any lower?

[Bossman]

I've heard Clen can actually be somewhat anabolic actually. Thanks for the bit about masteron, seems like it wouldn't be worth using right now. What is the minimum dose of test to use while cutting though? I was thinking 100 mg/EOD, could I go lower or would it not be worth it to go any lower?

Clen isn't anabolic. 100mg EOD would be a minimum IMO to keep lean mass while dieting.

[churchill5151]

Clen isn't anabolic. 100mg EOD would be a minimum IMO to keep lean mass while dieting.

K thanks for clearing that up. I've been reading this and that, not knowing which is true and which isn't. For cycling clen, you go 2 weeks on 2 off right? I read some where that clen stops being thermogenic at 18 days, so that's why people cycle it like that. Am I right?