opinions on my upcoming cycle

[iron_dan]

I am planning a 12wk
sust 500mg/wk
deca 500mg/wk
masteron 300mg/wk

pct
20 000 iu hcg
clomid

i am thinking as above all 3 for 12wks, starting pct on 9th week continuing 2 weeks after cycle with hcg/clomid and for at least another week past that with the clomid
i may lay off the deca at wk 11....thoughts guys?

i am 38
201lb
6'3"
approx 10% bf
have done a few cycles over the past 2-3yrs and been off for 3 months where i was just doing maintenance test for a few months prior then went off with 10 000 iu hcg and 100 clomid in march

[marcus300]

I dont like your cycle, i think it could be planned alot better IMHO,
You need to stop cycling and research about PCT, your ideas are not logical,

[Big]

I am planning a 12wk
sust 500mg/wk
deca 500mg/wk
masteron 300mg/wk

pct
20 000 iu hcg
clomid

i am thinking as above all 3 for 12wks, starting pct on 9th week continuing 2 weeks after cycle with hcg/clomid and for at least another week past that with the clomid
i may lay off the deca at wk 11....thoughts guys?

i am 38
201lb
6'3"
approx 10% bf
have done a few cycles over the past 2-3yrs and been off for 3 months where i was just doing maintenance test for a few months prior then went off with 10 000 iu hcg and 100 clomid in march

so you're planning to start the pct while on cycle and finish it before the suppressive compounds even clear your system? I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that.

[iron_dan]

"Can I use hcg during cycle and when?
Yes you can, imo to best benefit from Hcg is to run it by the last 3-4 weeks of your steroid cycle. Do not run hcg if your getting signs of gyno, hcg will make it worst, so becarful.

10)How much Hcg is needed during cycle and/or pct?
For pct a minimum of 10,000iu's hcg is needed. When you have a proper pct planned with a serm and an AI, and you want to run hcg during the last 4 weeks of your cycle, then you might only need 5,000iu's.
"An anti-estrogen (Nolva, etc.) is to be used with hcg during your last 4 weeks of cycle.

11)What dose do you run hcg at?
Hcg is best dosed at 500iu and/or 1000iu, more than that can cause too much aromatization, and some people wont react to less than 500iu. So during the last 4 weeks of a cycle, you shoot 500iu of hcg twice a week or 1000iu once a week. For pct, 500iu ed or 1000iu eod.

12)Can hcg be used w/out steroids to boost test production above baseline?
Yes. It is not recommended however. Continued use of hcg will desensitize the leydig cells to lh, meaning once you stop using the hcg as an artificial lh, you will crash bad. The natural lh production once restored by using nolvadex or clomid, may not be as effective as it once was. To boost natural test above baseline, anastrozole, nolvadex and clomid are better choices. "[/I][/I]


this is an excerpt taken from this forum regarding hcg, that is my reasoning. is it not accurate? it makes sense to get the boys up an running before your cycle is depleted and test levels plummet...

[lovbyts]

For starters the Test/Sust should be run 2 weeks longer than Deca.
The PCT should be started 2 weeks AFTER your last injection of Test/Sust, not before.

Yes the HCG can be ran during the cycle but most people use it mainly to keep their balls from shrinking to much during cycle.

As stated, you need to do more research on PCT and proper cycle.

Maintenance cycle you mean a cruise? How much? When was the last time you had your blood work done? check your hormone level.
It really would be advisable to get your blood work done so you know your baseline before starting the cycle.

[iron_dan]

geezuz guys, im here asking for advise, stating my references and i dont see anything wrong with my stack, i could add dbol..i have some, but is it that beneficial? what about the masteron? i do think i should up to 3days/week of 150mg on that.
second my pct...i have a double stack of hcg and clomid to do 2 pct's as previously one pct got me going but not all the way.
if you dont agree, let me hear what you recomend instead of just shooting shit down.

[iron_dan]

oh, and thanks re the deca, i will drop it at week 10 instead and as for maintenance, yes cruising at 250mg sust/week.
thanks again