gyno prone, going on first cycle! any others exp this?

[gymbob]

stats
6'2"
193lbs
training natural 4 years

planned cycle
week 1-12 test cyp 500mg/week + .5mgED adex (1mgED if gyno shows up)
week 12 - hcg 500IU 2X week, 60mh nolva ED
week 13 - hcg 250IU 2x week, 60mg nolva ED
week 14 - hcg 250IU 2X week, 60mg nolva ED, clomid 100mgED
week15 - 100mg clomid ED, 50mg nolvaED
week 16 - 80mg clomid ED, 40mg nolvaED
week 17 - 60mg clomid ED , 20mg nolvaED
week 18 - 50mg clomit ED, 20 mg nolvaED
week 19 - 20mg nolvaED

ok now im gyno prone, i kno this because when i was 14 i got a lumpy ring under my areola... i didnt know what it was and it went away 2 months later.. no problems until 6 months ago, i tried just normal tribulus, no estro blocker. it said take 1-2/day, well stupidly i took 6, one every couple hrs, for a week. by the end of the week i noticed fatty soft build up under left areola, i got adex for a week at 1mg/day it went away almost completely. left was always a bit fattier then right. now im about to start my cycle but im concerned about a few things:
1. will the adex ED keep the gyno off? like is there any one with known gyno prone issues willing to lend 2 cents?
2. if i get symptoms ill up the dose to 1mg/day, if thst doesnt work do i quit cycle or add nolva?? i read nolva decreases adex effectiveness?
thnaks for the help guys i really appriciate it

[gypsy]

I had gyno as a child. on my first (current cycle) I got symptoms right away including very itchy nips. I run .25 Arimidex ED and that works great for me. holds all the symptoms off.

[gymbob]

really? wow thats good to hear. in an ideal world the .5/day will work good for me. im doing 1mg/day right now just to try and rid the fatty tissue in the left there... as u can see i have low bf so its odd theres fat under the areola... 4 days in its definatly going down and equalling the right there.. all thats stopping now is the doc visit tomorrow, get some BW done so i know my baseline and away we go. might try to get some perscrip topical acne stuff cuz i deal with mild acne now, it comes in waves... and im worried it will flare up. and for the hair i got nizorol and nioxin so hopefully that can help slow the hair loss.. other then that, ill be updating with pictures bi weekly and progress reports along the way, record all strength because i always enjoyed reading those. thanks for the reply gypsy you've set my mind at ease, whats your cycle? how far in? and how is it?

[magic32]

Adex may or may not work, but is the correct preliminary measure.
However, should you still experience symptoms, don't bother upping the dosage and there's no need to discontinue cycling, just switch to 20mgs ED of Nolva.

SECONDARILY:
Should your symptoms resolve prior to the cycle's conclusion, continue the Nolva for at least one week after PCT.
If on cycle resolution does not occur, continue until it does (and it will) then two weeks post-resolution.

Best to you.

[MACHINE5150]

magic put it best

[Public Enemy]

If Gyno reappears, I would try some Letrozole. Its the most affective in battling gyno once it appears. Nolva does well to block estrogen while on cycle (THus preventing side effects) but Letrozole for most is the way to go once the tissue actually develops and if other options fail . Only problem is that letro needs to be for a good 60 or so days to get a steady blood plasma.

[gypsy]

magic summed it up...

my cycle is just the basic 500mg/week test. running Prop. 5 weeks in, going very well. strength is right up. have not put on a big amount of weight on the scales, a few lbs. but looking good so far.

[gymbob]

ok so here i am 6 days in. i did much research on adex, worried about the cholesterol levels.. and hair loss. so i decdied to try just the nolva 20mg a day. well i had the very mildest puffy right nip at the start in the left, didnt think much of it, well when i switched to just nolva the puff came back and its more pronounced!! so im wondering what to do here?? should i run .5 adex EOD plus 20mg nolva ED?? thats what im trying right now, of course being a week in im seriously debating if this is for me. I would hate to discontinue it, but i simply cant have gyno now or worse, after pct, because i already know ill have to run adex right thru cycle. I was thinking of using 1 500IU shot HCG and 2 250IU shots 3-4 days after the first consecutively, however with the high levels or aromatase enzyme and me being gyno prone how can i be assured i wont get gyno anyways, or even the dreaded estrogen rebound?? and i know i dont trust 20mgED alone of nolva to combat gyno cus this slight puffy nip is a scary situation!!

so what you guys recommend? the adex + nolva? and how bad is it that 20mg nolva ED wont stop me from gyno?
oh and im only running 400mg a week to test reactions - such as this!
and HCG? bad idea for me??
thanks guys im kinda stressing here.

[gymbob]

i only went 2 days without adex and noticed the puffiness so maybe the nolva wasnt kicked in, however i though i remembered reading it was fairly fast. and also should i be splitting dose, morn-night?