Cutter - Prop/Tren + ???

[Maverick_J8]

Planning my next cut/strength gain cycle and left with a couple of variations which I'm undecided on.

1st cycle variation - 8 weeks

Prop 100mg/day
Tren A 100mg/day
Tbol 60mg/day 4 weeks
Mast 400mg week

2nd - 8 weeks

Prop 100mg/day
Tren A 100mg/day
Anavar 80mg day (full 8 weeks)


I could techincally drop the mast in the first variation and still see great results; I could also run mast from beginning or start after 4 weeks, when the tbol has been dropped, but i'm looking for some great synergy.

Thoughts appreciated.

Only about 7lbs to cut but very interested in the strength gains also. I follow a powerlifting style training regime.

[muscle_dysmorphia]

Prop 100mg/day
Tren A 100mg/day
Tbol 60mg/day
Mast 400mg week

If you run each of these compounds for 8 weeks - then this will be the far better of the two cycles.

For a mere 7 pounds I'm unsure if I'd use an oral in the stack (t-bol/anavar..etc)

60mg/ed of T-bol won't add much when 700mg/wk of trenbolone is already in play.

IMO keep it simple... Test/DHT-derivative/19-nor.

[Maverick_J8]

If you run each of these compounds for 8 weeks - then this will be the far better of the two cycles.

For a mere 7 pounds I'm unsure if I'd use an oral in the stack (t-bol/anavar..etc)

60mg/ed of T-bol won't add much when 700mg/wk of trenbolone is already in play.

IMO keep it simple... Test/DHT-derivative/19-nor.

Makes sense.

I could cut the 7 pounds on just prop/tren as i've always done, but after running prop/tren many a time, i'm a looking for a cut with a bigger edge and effect. I'll be more interested in the strength as fat just drops off of me anyway.

With that in mind, you'd still agree prop/tren/mast? Increase the mast to 600 a week maybe for better effect?

[number twelve]

i have read great things about prop/tren/mast. but at the same time, i had great results with prop and var this past summer. since your already experienced with the tren, it would be cool to hear about your results with the mast added

[muscle_dysmorphia]

Makes sense.

I could cut the 7 pounds on just prop/tren as i've always done, but after running prop/tren many a time, i'm a looking for a cut with a bigger edge and effect. I'll be more interested in the strength as fat just drops off of me anyway.

With that in mind, you'd still agree prop/tren/mast? Increase the mast to 600 a week maybe for better effect?

I've had GREAT success with Tren @ 100mg/ed; Mast @ 100mg/ed; Prop @ 50mg/ed.

If you're trying to retain strength then you could increase the test (like I said, it's just my preference.) -- but masteron does make me stronger IMO just like winstrol - definitely gives you a lot of added aggression in the gym.

hope that helps.

[Maverick_J8]

I've had GREAT success with Tren @ 100mg/ed; Mast @ 100mg/ed; Prop @ 50mg/ed.

If you're trying to retain strength then you could increase the test (like I said, it's just my preference.) -- but masteron does make me stronger IMO just like winstrol - definitely gives you a lot of added aggression in the gym.

hope that helps.

I usually have no problem with retaining strength, but I run prop at 100 ed.

You run mast at 100 ed? I didn't mention, I have tried mast before alongside prop/tren; amazing hardening and definition, but no strength gain for me whatsover.

Anyone think tbol at 60 a day for 4 weeks would be beneficial, or overkill? I hear tbol is a great 'dry' drug, so little to no water is expected and plenty of strength, which for this cycle would be fantastic.

Run halo before at 40 a day, and although I noticed no strength gains whatsoever, I did notice very good fat burning capabilities. Just a little harsh on the liver, especially since i'm trying to be a little more kind to it recently.

So, Prop/Tren/Mast 100ed/100ed/100eod it is. But to add the tbol or not.

[muscle_dysmorphia]

If you're going to add the t-bol I would recommend no less then 6 weeks.

I do like the compound. but I find it similar to anavar, in that, the longer you run it the better the gains.

Very dry gains... not crazy strength gains though. I wouldn't even compare the strength gains to d-bol...

[Maverick_J8]

If you're going to add the t-bol I would recommend no less then 6 weeks.

I do like the compound. but I find it similar to anavar, in that, the longer you run it the better the gains.

Very dry gains... not crazy strength gains though. I wouldn't even compare the strength gains to d-bol...

I've read in several places Tbol gains stop after 4 weeks.
Everybody's different.

What dose if one were to run for 6 weeks? 50? 60?

[muscle_dysmorphia]

I've read in several places Tbol gains stop after 4 weeks.
Everybody's different.

What dose if one were to run for 6 weeks? 50? 60?

around 80mg/ed brah