New and on my first cycle need help

[Madmax3330]

I am 28 yrs old and about 8 months ago I weighted 260 lbs and after looking deep in myself and being so disgusted in what I had become I decided I wanted a change in my life so I decided to use an experimental weight loss product and completely change my diet. I ended up losing 55 lbs in about 6 months. I felt great but looked pretty scrawny and couldn't put on any weight or muscle. I spent so much money on supplements and shakes etc with no results so started doing research on cycling spent days reading everything I could find and thought I was ready. I am 6 weeks on my first cycle and went with tren ace started with a 5 ml dose the first day then a 3 ml everyday for the first 2 weeks. I put on such massive and impressive gains but I lost all my agression or drive at the gym as well libido. I bumped my tren down to 1.5 ml a day and started taking pct and cycle assist with b6 and milk thistle still had no drive but getting massive gains on week 4 I went back to the forum and read people were stacking it with test prop so i started adding 1.5ml test and 1.5 tren a day. Week 5 I started getting mad rushes of aggression witch I burn at the gym and libido was hit and miss. I am in week 6 and I am taking 1.5 ml tren and 1.5 ml test every other day but what I am gaining now just isn't as cut with that said here is my stats I am 225lbs 6 ft I am getting ready to do a physcical to get my bf my questions are
1.) what should my dosages be this late in my cycle
2.) what else should I be taking other then protien, milk thistle B6, and a est blocker
3.) how long should a cycle I read 8wks and 12 wks
4.) whats the best way to come off a cycle and how do you handle your pct as well keep your gains
5.) when should I look at starting my next witch I am looking at a cut cycle and what should I use for cutting and how long is a cut cycle

I know a lot of these questions are answered in this forum but my brain is on overload and there is so many opinions its confusing. I have never had the chance to work with anyone dedicated to building like i want to be so pretty much a new guy in the dark holding a flash light so any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

[gixxerboy1]

wow.
You should stop injecting everything right now. You def weren't ready to cycle. You by no means should be using tren. and ml's means absolutely nothing mg's does and who knows what dosages you were running.

You are seriously lucky libido problems are all you had

I would order clomid and nolva from ar-r and run a pct

[pointblank]

is this real life?

Do what gixxerboy just said

[Madmax3330]

Sadly, the first forum I did all my research on believed in tren only thats why I had went that way. I have not heard of those products yet I will do some research thanks for the post. side effects as of right now is just the night sweets, hunger my drive libido and agression are hit and miss but when its there I work out so hard that I don't feel the pain until I leave the gym. I guess of now what is a good PCT regamine and how long should i wait before my next cycle. Also should i keep power lifting to keep my gains and what supplements should i use to help recovery?

[stpete]

No,No,No...OP-Please revise your post.There's no way you shot 5ml's at once. What size syringe did you have? More details about these injections are needed. Regardless, as Gixxer said, stop everything now!! You are about to seriously mess yourself up!! And you should thank the heavens above that ED and aggression are your only sides.
Stop cycle and get on PCT immediately!!

[Madmax3330]

i used the ********** conversion

[Livinlean]

Do what gixxerboy said for sure.

Just curious tho where did you inject those 5mls of tren for your first injection? Also what is your test and tren dosed at? "xxxmg/ml"

[Madmax3330]

I am currently 1.5ml with is 100mg every other day of each. I did that my first week since i was told to frontload...Thanks for the advice everyone

[Madmax3330]

top buttox

[Madmax3330]

Last question I read not to stop all together to come off slowly any ideas? also is just a normal pct good diet and vitamins enough for a post cycle?

[Livinlean]

From what I've read you would stop the tren before the test. But gixxerboy said to stop right away, im guessing he said that because you'll do more harm by staying on than you would coming off straight away so I would go with what he said.

[Livinlean]

What do you consider a "normal pct"?

[jackedbatman]

the fact that you asked about vitamins as a part of a post cycle regime shows your lack of care to research anything let alone AAS... take their advice and come off properly.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

It never stops amazing me how people will stick a syringe into their body without having the 1st clue as to what they are doing. OP you are very lucky this is all you are struggling with. Run an apporpriate PCT and do some serious research before you consider anything again, for your own sake.

[Madmax3330]

There is the problem I did a lot of research and there is so many different ideas variations opinions out there its insane. I tried asking people but now a days its just not openly talked about. I don't have a protege to speak of that I can ask questions to and most people if you ask judge you on all the false facts out there. I didn't say that I don't know what vitamins to take I am asking for suggestions from real people that have been there and know what works not what they think works. Yes, I did make mistakes in my cycle but like I said I tried my hardest with what I had availble to do my best. I do know what is in each needle as I know the sterile enviroment it was made in as well I take all precautins each use. I am just looking for solid advice from real people that know from experience and if anyone would be willing to take the time to help me or shoot ideas I am all ears.

[gixxerboy1]

I dont know where you did research that said tren alone for a first cylce was good.

[Madmax3330]

As i am finding out not a good one lol. I did get massive gains but the cycle was torture i found myself constantly adjusting dosages and upon further research here included relised that tren alone is not enough or maybe not even the best choice out there. I have been reading the forums often here so i decided to become a member so I could ask real people not just people with ideas of what they think works. I am glad there is a place to ask questions as we are always learning and things are always changing and i do appreciate your time explaining and would be interested in any advice you would offer. I am not experiencing any bad side effects other then the norm and would like to keep myself on the right track or even improve my cycle for next round as well do it the right way. I am looking now for a good after cycle ideas and maybe suggestions on my next cycle. I kinda figured 20+lbs of muscle gain was pretty extreme but then I do like pushing my body to the limits in the gym as well try to eat right.

[songdog]

You keep runnin tren by itself you will want to look like Gix in his avi.Beacuse your joy toy wont work nor will your desire.

[jelly]

Wow, tell me the name of that forum you got your info from, so I can make sure never to go there!

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

I would like to know where this info came from also, lets see what other sound advice is being passed around there...