Primobolan

[Rwy]

How painful are the injections. I have been reading it can be pretty bad. At a min of 700mg weeks really sounds like a chore.


Mast certainly sounds like the better option. I know with Mast you need to be around 12-13% bf is that the same thing with primo?

[austinite]

Never experienced any pain. Both compounds work at lower body fat best. The 2 compounds are very similar with the exception of mast being highly androgenic , unlike primo.

[Rwy]

Thanks Austine. I am really in between var, mast or primo to add when I double my trt dose coming up in may. Give me sometime to get my bf down even more.

The only thing that scares me about mast is its so hard on the hair.

[Tron3219]

What do u experience with primo and mast aust? Never used either but pretty intrigued.

-TroN-

[austinite]

What do u experience with primo and mast aust? Never used either but pretty intrigued.

-TroN-

Both beautiful compounds. I get the same gains from both. Primo needs to be used for 16+ weeks and high volumes. After 16 weeks I notice daily changes in my physique. I'll probably at some point run primo year round. Aids in lowering bf too.

Mast does similar, I run prop for 8 weeks and it gives a marbleizing effect to the skin. Really amazing look. You won't recognize yourself in the mirror . I'm running both now.

[MuscleInk]

Both beautiful compounds. I get the same gains from both. Primo needs to be used for 16+ weeks and high volumes. After 16 weeks I notice daily changes in my physique. I'll probably at some point run primo year round. Aids in lowering bf too.

Mast does similar, I run prop for 8 weeks and it gives a marbleizing effect to the skin. Really amazing look. You won't recognize yourself in the mirror . I'm running both now.

Agreed. Primo is probably my favorite compound. Results definitely more prominent at lower bf but above 15% it does help with reducing bf. I've run primo in three cycles. Never had any PIP with it at all.

[panntastic]

Agreed. Primo is probably my favorite compound. Results definitely more prominent at lower bf but above 15% it does help with reducing bf. I've run primo in three cycles. Never had any PIP with it at all.

What dose (mg) were you administering at any one time doc just out of curiosity?

[marcus300]

Never had any kind of PIP with primo

[panntastic]

Never had any kind of PIP with primo

Have you injected a large dose before Marcus? Say 400mg a time?

[austinite]

Have you injected a large dose before Marcus? Say 400mg a time?

I havet done 400. But do 300 with no issues.

[panntastic]

I havet done 400. But do 300 with no issues.

Ok thanks for that Austin
The questioning goes back to an earlier thread about dosages obtainable when brewing.
I was told 400mg/ml would be easily obtainable but wouldn't be able to walk as primo is an irritant and would cause severe pain.
But you've all seemed to of cleared this up thank you
Looks like I will be brewing 400mg/ml then

[marcus300]

Have you injected a large dose before Marcus? Say 400mg a time?

Yes, without any issues. Primo doesnt seem to work for me unless I use high dose, its a very weak compound but can be a great addition to many cycles if ran at the right amount. I havent used it for yrs because I can get the same benefits from other compounds which is easier on the pocket but from what I remember ive used it in high burst cycles and the amounts ranged from 1000mgs to 2100mgs per week

[panntastic]

Yes, without any issues. Primo doesnt seem to work for me unless I use high dose, its a very weak compound but can be a great addition to many cycles if ran at the right amount. I havent used it for yrs because I can get the same benefits from other compounds which is easier on the pocket but from what I remember ive used it in high burst cycles and the amounts ranged from 1000mgs to 2100mgs per week

2.1g a week holy crap bat man bet your farts stunk like Gso on that cycle

[marcus300]

2.1g a week holy crap bat man bet your farts stunk like Gso on that cycle

It was only for a 30day SBC but yes ive ran it high dose, but a good dose for me is around 1000-1500mgs weekly but again its a great addititon to a good solid cycle

[panntastic]

It was only for a 30day SBC but yes ive ran it high dose, but a good dose for me is around 1000-1500mgs weekly but again its a great addititon to a good solid cycle

Thanks for your input mate and to Austin this has cleared a lot up for me

[MuscleInk]

What dose (mg) were you administering at any one time doc just out of curiosity?

Largest was 600mg/wk.

[panntastic]

Largest was 600mg/wk.

Cheers buddy
It was discussed in the lab and it was mentioned high mg/ml was obtainable but very painful just wanted to see others thoughts

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ace-for-inject

[Turkish Juicer]

I personally wouldn't inject more than 300mg of Primobolan at once, because I know it will give me a hard time but we're all different. Somewhat surprised to hear there are people who can easily get away with 400mg at once, bravo

If you run into any issues regarding injection pain, I recommend warming up the gear before injecting as I have experienced this to be one of the most useful techniques regarding the issue.

On a personal note, I happen to disagree with the statement that Primobolan is a weak compound by nature. This is a conclusion most users leap to without really considering the fact that it simply is a compound effective at a higher dose range, and thus shouldn't be compared to other compounds on a mg basis, such as Tren or Anadrol, since every AAS can be vastly different from another. For instance, both Fentanyl and Morphine are opioid analgesics widely used in the medical field; however, Fentanyl is approximately 100 times more potent than Morphine. Now does this make Morphine any less useful or less effective than Fentanyl by any means? Of course not. Nonetheless, therapeutic dosage of each compound can be vastly different and often is, which is why a mg basis comparison is neither just nor rational IMHO. I have used pharm grade Primobolan Depot at 750mg EW in the past and attained very good results, but again, I am not nearly as big as Marcus so the very term ''good results'' itself happens to be relative...

[Turkish Juicer]

Largest was 600mg/wk.

Damn, monster

[Tron3219]

Largest was 600mg/wk.

So primo works for u at 600/wk? I've been hearing it needs to b ran at 1000plus for extended periods of time. And what I was thinking about starting at the 1g mark because I don't wanna spend all that money on it and not work at day 600. I was also thinking I wouldn't run it till I got my bf a few points lower. I think I'd b alright at current bf, BUT I want it to shine like a supernova

-TroN-

[panntastic]

I personally wouldn't inject more than 300mg of Primobolan at once, because I know it will give me a hard time but we're all different. Somewhat surprised to hear there are people who can easily get away with 400mg at once, bravo

If you run into any issues regarding injection pain, I recommend warming up the gear before injecting as I have experienced this to be one of the most useful techniques regarding the issue.

On a personal note, I happen to disagree with the statement that Primobolan is a weak compound by nature. This is a conclusion most users leap to without really considering the fact that it simply is a compound effective at a higher dose range, and thus shouldn't be compared to other compounds on a mg basis, such as Tren or Anadrol, since every AAS can be vastly different from another. For instance, both Fentanyl and Morphine are opioid analgesics widely used in the medical field; however, Fentanyl is approximately 100 times more potent than Morphine. Now does this make Morphine any less useful or less effective than Fentanyl by any means? Of course not. Nonetheless, therapeutic dosage of each compound can be vastly different and often is, which is why a mg basis comparison is neither just nor rational IMHO. I have used pharm grade Primobolan Depot at 750mg EW in the past and attained very good results, but again, I am not nearly as big as Marcus so the very term ''good results'' itself happens to be relative...

Bonaparte mentioned primo was an irritant and high dosages in one shot will hurt.
Is this what you are referring to or is it usual run of the mill PIP you are talking of?
I know I can make this pain free upto 500mg/ml but if its an irritant like Bonaparte mentioned then I can't see the point.
But if its pip related your talking of then I'm good to go

[Tron3219]

Bonaparte mentioned primo was an irritant and high dosages in one shot will hurt.
Is this what you are referring to or is it usual run of the mill PIP you are talking of?
I know I can make this pain free upto 500mg/ml but if its an irritant like Bonaparte mentioned then I can't see the point.
But if its pip related your talking of then I'm good to go

I'd say try it and see but that's expensive trial and error lol

-TroN-

[panntastic]

I'd say try it and see but that's expensive trial and error lol

-TroN-

Can always cut it back down though that's the beauty of it

[Tron3219]

Can always cut it back down though that's the beauty of it

Ill leave that to you! Lol

-TroN-

[Tron3219]

Can always cut it back down though that's the beauty of it

Ill leave that to you! Lol

-TroN-

[Rwy]

Yes, without any issues. Primo doesnt seem to work for me unless I use high dose, its a very weak compound but can be a great addition to many cycles if ran at the right amount. I havent used it for yrs because I can get the same benefits from other compounds which is easier on the pocket but from what I remember ive used it in high burst cycles and the amounts ranged from 1000mgs to 2100mgs per week

**** at 2100 at week thats ****ing epxensive....lol

I was thinking max 800.


Everyone thanks for the advice. I searched primo injection pain and a lot came up on google which is whay I ended up asking. I am going to get down to 12-13 and run for 20 weeks.

[warmouth]

That's it! I'm doing it. I'm brewing high dose primo. I'm going to use 200ml ace if possible and 400mg E.
This is the only compound that I MUST use. Not even a question anymore. Im going to run it ar 1000 mgs for 16+ weeks, and if all goes well, after the 16 weeks, I'm going to cruise all year on 600mgs plus trt.

[Rwy]

are their any sides for running long high doses of primo

I am not reading many in my research

[MuscleInk]

are their any sides for running long high doses of primo

I am not reading many in my research

Possible PSA issues but some of the elevated PSAs I've seen personally and clinically may be due to other compounds used at the same time as primo (mast, high test doses). That's the only negative I've personally experienced.

[Turkish Juicer]

Possible PSA issues but some of the elevated PSAs I've seen personally and clinically may be due to other compounds used at the same time as primo (mast, high test doses). That's the only negative I've personally experienced.

Is it to your knowledge if everyday Cialis administration at a given steady dose such as 5 mg during a DHT cycle would actually help with potential prostate issues, such as preventing prostate hypertrophy and so forth?

[MuscleInk]

Is it to your knowledge if everyday Cialis administration at a given steady dose such as 5 mg during a DHT cycle would actually help with potential prostate issues, such as preventing prostate hypertrophy and so forth?

Absolutely! I'm glad you brought that up. I take 5mg daily prophylactically and its help keep my PSA in normal ranges. I'm taking mast and primo on cycle now and increased the dose to 10mg. I'm checking PSA next week. 10mg may be a little much but last time I ran mast and primo in a stack without a PDE5 my damn PSA ran up up to 9.2!!!!!

Very good point to bring up TJ. Unless someone has hypersensitivities to PDE5s or any contraindications, 5mg daily would be an excellent idea.

EDIT: as I'm sure you're aware TJ, 5mg daily is indicated in cases of BPH.

[The Titan99]

Have you injected a large dose before Marcus? Say 400mg a time?

Both beautiful compounds. I get the same gains from both. Primo needs to be used for 16+ weeks and high volumes. After 16 weeks I notice daily changes in my physique. I'll probably at some point run primo year round. Aids in lowering bf too.

Mast does similar, I run prop for 8 weeks and it gives a marbleizing effect to the skin. Really amazing look. You won't recognize yourself in the mirror . I'm running both now.

Agreed!! I like running Masteron P and Tren A together. I have no hair loss issues so it's ideal for me. Test A/Tren A/Mast P/Tbol. My favorite thing in the world!!!

[human project]

How painful are the injections. I have been reading it can be pretty bad. At a min of 700mg weeks really sounds like a chore.

Mast certainly sounds like the better option. I know with Mast you need to be around 12-13% bf is that the same thing with primo?

I've been taking 350 a week with my cycle and I think its a reasonable dose if included in larger cycle.. When I inject it alone or more then half cc it tends to get swollen and sore which always makes me think it will cause a problem with absorbson. That added with the high price of primo I just upped my tren and lowered the primo down to 350 and I like it much better. I think the higher dose of primo "700mg" a week made me lethargic. I did it for a month and decided to drop it to 350mg. I'm leaner and harder then ever so it defiantly didn't hurt lowering my dose.

[human project]

Thanks Austine. I am really in between var, mast or primo to add when I double my trt dose coming up in may. Give me sometime to get my bf down even more.

The only thing that scares me about mast is its so hard on the hair.

I like lower doses of both. 350mast 350 primo is much better IMO then a gram of either alone

[human project]

I like lower doses of both. 350mast 350 primo is much better IMO then a gram of either alone

Wait now I'm even confusing myself.... Someone please clear this up..... I take primo and tren hex which my supplier says the tren hex is new age primobolin....
So is primo "methenolone enanthate" is it the same as tren hex "trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate"????

[panntastic]

Wait now I'm even confusing myself.... Someone please clear this up..... I take primo and tren hex which my supplier says the tren hex is new age primobolin....
So is primo "methenolone enanthate" is it the same as tren hex "trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate"????

Nope both completely different

[panntastic]

Agreed!! I like running Masteron P and Tren A together. I have no hair loss issues so it's ideal for me. Test A/Tren A/Mast P/Tbol. My favorite thing in the world!!!

Was a genuine question!
I was informed primo is an irritant and a single dose of 400mg/ml (primo enth) would be crippling and I would like to find out if this is true

[Turkish Juicer]

That's it! I'm doing it. I'm brewing high dose primo. I'm going to use 200ml ace if possible and 400mg E.
This is the only compound that I MUST use. Not even a question anymore. Im going to run it ar 1000 mgs for 16+ weeks, and if all goes well, after the 16 weeks, I'm going to cruise all year on 600mgs plus trt.

I would maintain my initial dose at around 700-800mg range and see what happens, as 1000mg could be more than what you want/need for your 1st Primo cycle.

Consider that majority of forum members who said they have run it at over 1000mg in order to get decent results are quite large lifters and some of them have already broken the 250lbs.

[Turkish Juicer]

I was informed primo is an irritant and a single dose of 400mg/ml (primo enth) would be crippling and I would like to find out if this is true

True in my personal experience.

Primobolan has high molecular weight, not as high as Winstrol per se, but close, and I would never inject more than 300mg at once.

Again, individuals can be vastly different as they often are, hence pain threshold also varies between individuals, and then there is the brand of gear you are using when it comes to the post-injection experience...

[panntastic]

True in my personal experience.

Primobolan has high molecular weight, not as high as Winstrol per se, but close, and I would never inject more than 300mg at once.

Again, individuals can be vastly different as they often are, hence pain threshold also varies between individuals, and then there is the brand of gear you are using when it comes to the post-injection experience...

I homebrew all my own gear and can make test prop pain free @ 300mg/ml so I think primo enth at 400mg/ml shouldn't be a problem
Thanks for your input TJ