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    Some of U will say glad 2 hear it but I am concerned not scared Prostraight Cancer

    Dr gave me my BW today and I am at E2 of 26 and Test 1230 and pas 12 high / top side of you got prostraight cancer unless we test and find out you don't have it ?

    So what are the test like and what di I have to look foerard to . . . lol I got my hormoned balanced not by mt Dr. By all you gents putting up with my ship ! anyone been through oit is it the kiss of death do ppl live through it ? I have not been on the Internet yet to search I don't have much of a family and you guys are more family than any I have do that is why I am posting and asking for stoeirs ?

    I still have great secx?
    I do pee alot
    but I drink a gal of water a dat and a 1/2 gal of tea and a gal of protein shakes so I didn't think anything about peeing all the time so will I sie tomorrow or next week ot next mth mit nedt year will it be slow and painful WTF do I have to expext ? ? ? ? ?

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    sorry to hear it bro. well lets not jump the gun until tests are done to confirm its presence. don't know much about testing but they have to go in from your rear I believe and take a sample. testing is the mild part of this, lets hope its just swelling, and that is treatable. wishing you the best bro.

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    are you currently on cycle or trt? stop and repeat bw.

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    and i think you meant prostate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    and i think you meant prostate .

    I am awful at spelling but I explained why I have that issue and I am going back to school in Jan . Sever trauma in 02 caused some motor skill issues and memory loose !

    But I think I meant Prostrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post

    But I think I meant Prostrate [/SIZE]
    [Sighs...]
    No, you definitely meant "prostate".

    prostate gland
    n.
    A gland in male mammals surrounding the urethra at the base of the bladder that controls release of urine from the bladder and secretes a fluid which is a major constituent of semen.


    pros·trate
    1. To put or throw flat with the face down, as in submission or adoration: "He did not simply sit and meditate, he also knelt down, sometimes even prostrated himself" (Iris Murdoch).
    2. To cause to lie flat: The wind prostrated the young trees.
    3. To reduce to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome: an illness that prostrated an entire family; a nation that was prostrated by years of civil war.
    adj.
    1. Lying face down, as in submission or adoration.
    2. Lying flat or at full length.
    3. Reduced to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome.
    4. Botany Growing flat along the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    [Sighs...]
    No, you definitely meant "prostate".

    prostate gland
    n.
    A gland in male mammals surrounding the urethra at the base of the bladder that controls release of urine from the bladder and secretes a fluid which is a major constituent of semen.


    pros·trate
    1. To put or throw flat with the face down, as in submission or adoration: "He did not simply sit and meditate, he also knelt down, sometimes even prostrated himself" (Iris Murdoch).
    2. To cause to lie flat: The wind prostrated the young trees.
    3. To reduce to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome: an illness that prostrated an entire family; a nation that was prostrated by years of civil war.
    adj.
    1. Lying face down, as in submission or adoration.
    2. Lying flat or at full length.
    3. Reduced to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome.
    4. Botany Growing flat along the ground.


    With all due respects Mr. Monitior I am way past giving a ship about the exact spelling . I am concerned with a PSA score of 7 and been on Masteron and Tren in super small doses but EOD 10 to 20 mg's and now I am back on TRT 60 mg of Test every 3.5 days dose with added 50 mg of Deca a week if I am cancerous or just high PSA from Compounds that I really enjoy but after this scare may have to stay clear of ?

    MuscleInk do you work in a lab and from what you said in another thread I am now more inclined to think the Masteron and Tren caused the high reading and everything will be normal ?

    When I go t the specialist will he automaticly start taking biopseys or do you know with a PSA of 7 if there is a more less agressive approach ? I have been told they do the needle right up the opening with no local or any type of meds to relax the pacient ? I am not sure if they did not relax me with something if they could even get a needle up my opening ? Just the thought of that test from what I have read hurts but there are so many different conflicting opinions on the Internet and my appointment is not until the 22nd of Dec and That means go through Christmas wondering ?
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    sorry to hear your news bro...best regards.

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    Standard test is usually a digital rectal examination, or DRE for short. Your PSA is high. Anything above 10 is a risk factor, however, PSAs can be very inaccurate and can be affected by other factors.

    With a score of 12, the procedure that should be done is a TRUS, transrectal ultrasound. This involves insertion of an elongated ultrasound emitting device into the rectum to take images of the prostate. A biopsy using a fine needle aspiration technique is performed to remove prostate cells. A pathologist will review the cells and assign a Gleason score which will provide information about cell integrity and potential abnormal cell growth should any exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Standard test is usually a digital rectal examination, or DRE for short. Your PSA is high. Anything above 10 is a risk factor, however, PSAs can be very inaccurate and can be affected by other factors.

    With a score of 12, the procedure that should be done is a TRUS, transrectal ultrasound. This involves insertion of an elongated ultrasound emitting device into the rectum to take images of the prostate. A biopsy using a fine needle aspiration technique is performed to remove prostate cells. A pathologist will review the cells and assign a Gleason score which will provide information about cell integrity and potential abnormal cell growth should any exist.
    i thought it was true core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD

    i thought it was true core.
    Well, technically it's a stereotactic guided fine needle biopsy but yes, a core method will be used to preserve the cytohistopathology of the cell lines.

    Good catch AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk

    Well, technically it's a stereotactic guided fine needle biopsy but yes, a core method will be used to preserve the cytohistopathology of the cell lines.

    Good catch AD.
    Huh? English plz :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    Huh? English plz :-)

    Glad to have you on board man! You're an ass to many!
    That's not nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard

    Huh? English plz :-)

    Glad to have you on board man! You're an asset for many!
    English? I don't know English....but I'm learning great Engrish from My HAW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    and i think you meant prostate.
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Standard test is usually a digital rectal examination, or DRE for short. Your PSA is high. Anything above 10 is a risk factor, however, PSAs can be very inaccurate and can be affected by other factors.

    With a score of 12, the procedure that should be done is a TRUS, transrectal ultrasound. This involves insertion of an elongated ultrasound emitting device into the rectum to take images of the prostate. A biopsy using a fine needle aspiration technique is performed to remove prostate cells. A pathologist will review the cells and assign a Gleason score which will provide information about cell integrity and potential abnormal cell growth should any exist.
    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    i thought it was true core.
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Well, technically it's a stereotactic guided fine needle biopsy but yes, a core method will be used to preserve the cytohistopathology of the cell lines.

    Good catch AD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    It's a complex disease with well over 100 possible mutations up and downstream along various molecular pathways. In short, yes, the disease can be difficult to treat and like every other cancer, there are genomic differences in response rates. I recently gave a presentation on prostate cancer, androgen blockade, and hormone refractory disease.

    Any growth peptide can cause hyperplasia and hypertrophy (increase in number and size of cells). If cells are mutagenic and proliferate (grow) disease spreads, hence the risk in using GH or growth-factor peptides. Let me be clear though, these peptides do NOT cause cancer, however they can (and likely do) accelerate the growth of cancerous cells.

    Anabolic compounds bind to androgenic receptors (ARs). The prostate fossa is loaded with ARs and stimulation of these receptors will cause enlargement of prostate tissue and the potential for mutations to occur.

    I've mentioned this numerous times on here but it rarely gets the attention it deserves.
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    I answered your PM but I will post here as well. MI may correct me but from my experience (family member had it) Prostate Cancer is one of the least life threatening cancers you can get and often times treated with a 100% success rate. Don't start saving for a plot just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    I answered your PM but I will post here as well. MI may correct me but from my experience (family member had it) Prostate Cancer is one of the least life threatening cancers you can get and often times treated with a 100% success rate. Don't start saving for a plot just yet.
    Gleason scores of 6 or less have very good outcomes.

    Now you're wondering WTH a Gleason score is. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Gleason scores of 6 or less have very good outcomes.

    Now you're wondering WTH a Gleason score is. Lol
    Nope, went through it all with my father in law. They used chemo pellets and he was treated at Mayo. been cancer free for pushing 7 or 8 years now I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Nope, went through it all with my father in law. They used chemo pellets and he was treated at Mayo. been cancer free for pushing 7 or 8 years now I think.
    Good outcomes for brachytherapy. Better than androgenic blockage IMO.

    Like most adenocarcinomas, early detection is the key to successful treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Good outcomes for brachytherapy. Better than androgenic blockage IMO.

    Like most adenocarcinomas, early detection is the key to successful treatment.
    He was fortunate. Misdiagnosed by local MD's and finally his wife made him go to Mayo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I answered your PM but I will post here as well. MI may correct me but from my experience (family member had it) Prostate Cancer is one of the least life threatening cancers you can get and often times treated with a 100% success rate. Don't start saving for a plot just yet.
    Now that is what I wanted to hear ! Now did you say it because youthought that was what I wanted to hear or is it VERY treatable ? See I have no hemroids , no obstructions and to much wood to use and no blockage in bowel monement ? The only symptom of anythoing I have and I thought it was just kind of old age is I pee and shake the dog out of my pisser and then do it again and it still dribbles pee is that a dymptom ?

    Thank you for the good uplidting words but I need the Straight of it also ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    Now that is what I wanted to hear ! Now did you say it because youthought that was what I wanted to hear or is it VERY treatable ? See I have no hemroids , no obstructions and to much wood to use and no blockage in bowel monement ? The only symptom of anythoing I have and I thought it was just kind of old age is I pee and shake the dog out of my pisser and then do it again and it still dribbles pee is that a dymptom ?

    Thank you for the good uplidting words but I need the Straight of it also ?
    Like MI said. It would depend mainly on your score that would determine a course of treatment and it's effectiveness but in a lot of cases prostate cancer is indeed very treatable. As far as the symptoms and things. I have no working knowledge in that area but I'm pretty sure MuscleInk may know a thing or 2 on this subject.

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    looks like we lost op after the first post

    lol

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    Good luck man, let us know how it goes.

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    Buzz, you need to do the one thing your the worst at...relax. See the specialist and get further testing. Until then you are pretty much pissing in the wind man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    Buzz, you need to do the one thing your the worst at...relax. See the specialist and get further testing. Until then you are pretty much pissing in the wind man.
    ^^^Yes. Elevated PSA and difficulty voiding can simply be BPH or prostatitis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    ^^^Yes. Elevated PSA and difficulty voiding can simply be BPH or prostatitis.


    i HAVE NO PLUMIG ISSUES AND NO TROUBLE PEEING AND TO MUCH LIBIDO ! i DRINK 2 GALS OF LIQUID A DAY SO i DO PEE A LOT BUT IT HAS TO GO SOME WHERE ? ooPPPS DIDN'T MEAN TO BE ALL CAPS !

    The only time I can't pee is when the Dr. ask for a urine sample ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Buzz, you need to do the one thing your the worst at...relax. See the specialist and get further testing. Until then you are pretty much pissing in the wind man.

    No truer words were ever spoken ! I want my answer and I want it now ! . . . lol

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    OK I am a DA are you saying and agreeing that cialais can cause an enlarged prostrate and If I stop taking 25 mg a day it should go back to normal size ?

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    No BMP. I was only replying to MI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    No BMP. I was only replying to MI.

    Damn Kel why you wna make me all happy like that . . . . lol I was hoping my cialis @ 25 & 30 mg a day was what caused my prostrate to be enlarged it has caused everything else to be enlarged from vains to woody they have both been bigger and more of them . . . lol Oh and in case you didn't read my earlier post I was pretty shook up when I contacted you ! My PSA BW reading was only 7 and that is just barly not acceptable as in slightly elevated that is the same DA Dr. I have been being treat me for TRT @ 1 mg od Adex daily that even the Pharmacist said was to much but he could not change the script and since I was getting 30 1 mg for $8.00 to just cut them and take one every other day and one every 3rd day and now going to go to every 3rd day because can't cut to a quarter they will crumble

    NOW I think my Dr. should have made mention of it and said we need to watch it and see what your reading is in 3 mths as opposed to making me think I have a few days to live and implying i HAVE PROSTRATE CANCER ! I think he doesn't know shit about what he is doing and when anyting omes up he wants to pass it off to someone else / i feel a lot etter now after reading and talking to people

    Thanks for all you have done to try to assist my stuborne ars !
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    No BMP. I was only replying to MI.
    Yes sir, Cialis is part of my daily regimen. Due to low T, I don't PCT and my PSA bounces around from cycle to cycle. It's gone as high as 9.4 but a daily dose of 10mg keeps my PSA in normal ranges. Sometimes I'll dose higher when running DHT based compounds. I love mast....but it loves my prostate a little too much.

    Some people get intense headaches with doses above 10mg but its a case by case event.

    For "loads of fun" I've taken 10mg Cialis and 100mg of Viagra on the weekend a few times. My HAW hates when I do that because we're both sore for days after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Yes sir, Cialis is part of my daily regimen. Due to low T, I don't PCT and my PSA bounces around from cycle to cycle. It's gone as high as 9.4 but a daily dose of 10mg keeps my PSA in normal ranges. Sometimes I'll dose higher when running DHT based compounds. I love mast....but it loves my prostate a little too much.

    Some people get intense headaches with doses above 10mg but its a case by case event.

    For "loads of fun" I've taken 10mg Cialis and 100mg of Viagra on the weekend a few times. My HAW hates when I do that because we're both sore for days after.

    OK NOW ! With the history of my Dr. being a total DA it kind of sounds like 7 is not even a # to worry about and I love cialias for many reasons anmd yes when I want to purly tourture a you woman or a femal period my 25 mg os Cialias and the oter 2 supplements I habve them in a bottle and written down and never run out I load up with them and 25 bmg od cialias and 100 mg of viagria and PT - 242 and I have had 2 babes crying wit pleasure and all they could do was just treemle ad shake ai had pleasured them so much they had tears of pure JOY and then they tell their friend and of course the friends say no way and I have anothe 3 way waiting in the past b6 mths I have had more 3 sums in my whole life !

    But back to te POrostrate 7 is nothing to worriy about fro what you say ? did I understand that correctly keeping in mind my Dr. can't even corolate all the #'s on my BW and figure out what is going on I was jacked po one time with a reading of 2980m and he jist blew it off as an error in the test and made the statement your LH is a little elevated ? I thought WTF YOU ARE A TOTAL DUMB ASS AND SHOULD NOT BE PRACTICINJG MEDICINE ! Any opinions ?

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    I have been doing some reading and I may have misunderstood what I was reading but I understood it to say that HCG help prevent the prostrate from swelling is this true ?

    If not has anyone read this info that may have lead me to believe that HCG would prevent the prostrate from swelling ?My Dr will not prescribe HCG and I have been buying where ever I could and can'tnd have not been able to find any for 3 mths and I caan tell a huge difference in my mood and attituide ! I never knew how important HGC is it is amazing and required ? I don't know how to get my Dr. to prescribe HCG ? I need it and bad !

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