Meal Timing (Fats for breakfast or no)

[Swolberham_Lincoln]

After 8 hours sleep your body needs nutrients. I'M caught between two different philosphies.

The first- No fats for Breakfast.
Thinking: Fats slow absorption rate of meal. After a long night sleep you want to feed your muscles as quickly as possible to prevent catabolism (muscle breakdown)

The second- Fats for breakfast
Thinking: Fats are very important for testosterone and growth Hormone levels in the body. To keep these levels as elevated as possible, fats for breakfast will support testosterone and growth hormone levels.

Your ideas are most welcomed

[MIKE_XXL]

Protein and fats, will keep a body in fat burning zone do not introduce carbs till second meal. If you must workout after first meal, eat coconut oil with breakfast for fast MCT fats.

[tempest818]

Hey mike, so no carbs in morning as first meal? I was alwats told carbs should be eaten early in the day. Not refuting what yiu said, i just dont know lol.

[hellomycognomen]

After 8 hours sleep your body needs nutrients. I'M caught between two different philosphies.

The first- No fats for Breakfast.
Thinking: Fats slow absorption rate of meal. After a long night sleep you want to feed your muscles as quickly as possible to prevent catabolism (muscle breakdown)

The second- Fats for breakfast
Thinking: Fats are very important for testosterone and growth Hormone levels in the body. To keep these levels as elevated as possible, fats for breakfast will support testosterone and growth hormone levels.

Your ideas are most welcomed

Nutrient timing has already been largely disproven.

The body is constantly undergoing both catabolism and anabolism at the same time. Just because you slept for 8+ hours doesn't mean anything.

Eat a well balanced meal and track your overall macros.

You can maximize MPS by consuming ~40g protein every ~4-5hrs. The peri-workout window is more important than meal timing, and as far as stimulating MPS the amino acid Luecine is the most important.

Food absorption rates are largely irrelevant as long as you keep in mind the peri workout window. And its not like you are going to eat breakfast and begin working out immediately right? Just have a balanced breakfast, give yourself time to digest 30min-2hrs then hit the gym.

-Cheers

[MIKE_XXL]

Google the carbs for breakfast and you will see a lot of much smarter people then me talk about it. Ben Pakulski is a great proponent of no carbs for breakfast and he is one of the most scientifically focused and driven bodybuilders out there...I have been going at it this way for a while and it is allowing me to stay leaner while still gaining muscle tissue. If you need to work out soon after the breakfast included coconut oil as it is rich in MCT fats which are utilize much the same way as carbs for fast energy source.

[Mp859]

The people that talk shit about nutrient timing, more often than not; are the same people that follow iifym. :|

Carbs are a nonessential nutrient. Unless you are on a bulk, you probably really only need them around your workouts. IMO of course.

[gettinbig30]

So the urban myth of oats for breakfast is BS?

[bigjohnny1]

Protein and fats, will keep a body in fat burning zone do not introduce carbs till second meal. If you must workout after first meal, eat coconut oil with breakfast for fast MCT fats.

Great reply he sums it up pretty much!