second Cycle thoughts?

[ShootingAcez]

Hey everyone. Was putting together a second cycle and wanted to know what you all thought!

25yrs old
5'9
178lbs
BF at 13% (via Body fat Caliper)

Test Prop at 75mg eod 1-8 weeks
Tren Ace at 50mg eod 1-8 weeks (may up to 75 if handled well)
Dbol at 30mg ed 1-4 weeks ( not sure if I'm going to take an oral or not)
hcg at 250IU 2x week 1-8 weeks
Adex at .25mg 2x week 1-8 weeks (.25mg eod on 500mg/week of test and 40mg of dbol/day was too much)

Prami on hand in case!

PCT

3rd day after last pin

Nolvadex 40mg 40mg 20mg 20mg
Clomid 100mg 100mg 50mg 50mg

What do you guys think? I know tren on a second run is a little early, but there's nothing else I really want to run lol.

any other suggestions would still be appreciated

[guitarzan]

If you insist on running tren your second cycle (not a good idea), I would at least drop the dbol

[ShootingAcez]

If you insist on running tren your second cycle (not a good idea), I would at least drop the dbol

I'm not sure if I want to run anything else :/ Any suggestions?

Why would you drop the dbol?

[guitarzan]

Bad enough running tren on your second cycle, you definitely don't want to run multiple compounds, especially two harsh ones.

What was your first cycle?

[ShootingAcez]

Bad enough running tren on your second cycle, you definitely don't want to run multiple compounds, especially two harsh ones.

What was your first cycle?

First one was test enanthate 500mg/week 1-12wks, dbol 30mg/day 1-4wk with hcg 500iu/week 1-12wks and the same pct listed above.

[ShootingAcez]

oh, and Adex at .25mg eod day, but that was too much so I took it every 3 days

[kelkel]

I would agree with guitarzan. If it's your first run with Tren you don't need the dbol. All the dbols going to do is give you some quick strength and water weight which makes everyone think it's great. You'll then lose it anyway. Fun?, sure. Worth it?, arguably not.

[Back In Black]

What was so bad about your first cycle that you want to tren already?

If you do you should extendthe nolva part of your PCT and run your test longer than your tren. The Clomid dosages are, arguably, a little high.

Tren is no joke, seems like the best aas out there and it can be but it can also be the worst.

[ShootingAcez]

What was so bad about your first cycle that you want to tren already?

Nothing went wrong, however due to the nature of my job, I can't exactly go running around with deca or NPP in my system with a detection time of 1+ years :/ I know tren is still around 5-6months, but that's better than 12-15 lol. Do you have any other suggestions besides the Tren that still have some decent gains?

If you do you should extendthe nolva part of your PCT and run your test longer than your tren. The Clomid dosages are, arguably, a little high.

75mg/75mg/50mg/50mg better? or would you knock it down to 50mg ed for all 4 weeks?

Tren is no joke, seems like the best aas out there and it can be but it can also be the worst.

Yeah that's what I hear. Especially tren cough. However, I have always aspirated, so there would be no injecting into the blood stream for THIS guy lol

I replied in Bold ^

[clarky.]

Just on reading your cycle, and no other post. I think it is mad, yous ppl need to learn about these compounds Ace. I could say this and that but is there really any point ?. Come on Ace read learn and be fucking smart here ffs.

[ShootingAcez]

Just on reading your cycle, and no other post. I think it is mad, yous ppl need to learn about these compounds Ace. I could say this and that but is there really any point ?. Come on Ace read learn and be fucking smart here ffs.

I've spent tons and tons of time reading up on Tren, because I know how powerful and how crazy the sides are, which is why I was starting out with 50mg eod.

[ShootingAcez]

Now, in saying that, I am open to other suggestions. However I did mention IN one of these posts, why I didn't want to try out deca or NPP.

[Back In Black]

I replied in Bold ^

If your first cycle was good just up your test dose a little, 600mg a week. You don't have to to keep adding compounds every cycle you do.

75/50/50/50 is fine for Clomid.

Oh man, there's more to worry about than tren cough. You know one shot of tren will shut your natty test production down, not suppress it but shut it down. Recovery is harder from 19-nors and can take months or years or potentially never. Not something I'd want as 25 year old with all the 'living' I did back then.

Whatever you choose to do best of luck.

[tbjake34]

Depending on ur goals. If ur trying to get as big as possible and compete in bodybuilding. It's time to add a new compound, I'd recommend deca or npp. Save the tren until ur bigger. But if ur just looking to add a few lbs of muslce I agree with above post just add more test up to 750mg.

[tbjake34]

Oh and btw tren is so powerful bro wait a bit for it its not a second cycle drug imo

[ShootingAcez]

Depending on ur goals. If ur trying to get as big as possible and compete in bodybuilding. It's time to add a new compound, I'd recommend deca or npp. Save the tren until ur bigger. But if ur just looking to add a few lbs of muslce I agree with above post just add more test up to 750mg.

I like the profiles on deca and NPP, but I'm just not keen on their detection times. Is there any way to get rid of their metabolites from your system faster to lower the detection time? Or am I stuck with the 12-18month period?

[kelkel]

It would be quite unusual for an employer to check for AAS. Very cost prohibitive.

[songdog]

Depending on ur goals. If ur trying to get as big as possible and compete in bodybuilding. It's time to add a new compound, I'd recommend deca or npp. Save the tren until ur bigger. But if ur just looking to add a few lbs of muslce I agree with above post just add more test up to 750mg.

it's time to add a new compound? WHY? if he did good on his 1st running the same cycle again would be just fine.Why add more when you don't have too?Run that horse until it dies.

[ShootingAcez]

Update on Cycle thoughts:

Okay, I've been thinking about what all of you said, and I think I'm going to change the compound. Here's what I've been thinking:

Test Prop 150mg eod 1-8 weeks
NPP 100mg eod 1-8 weeks
dbol 25mg ed 1-4 weeks
adex 0.25mg eod 1-8 weeks
HCG 250iu 2/wk 1-8 weeks
Prami on hand

PCT 3 days after last pin

Nolva 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg
Clomid 75mg/50mg/50mg/50mg

What do you all think about that? Better choice going for NPP?