Did I buy fake gear?

[tinymuscles]

I’m currently taking 500mg test e Metabolic
500iu hcg a week.

This is my second cycle. Today is DAY 28 of my cycle (start of 5th week). I’ve made about 8lb of gains this month. But at this point I thought I’d be making significant strength gains. Starting to think it is underdosed, on my first cycle I literally wanted to stick my dick in anything that moved, my bench went up by 60lb, life just felt amazing, this time around I’m not feeling any of that. My fucken diet is so on point too. Do you guys think I’m just tripping out and it’s to early to have kicked in fully yet? I go for blood tests in 3 weeks, but i’d like to know now if I’m been jipped

[Cylon357]

I’m currently taking 500mg test e Metabolic
500iu hcg a week.

This is my second cycle. Today is DAY 28 of my cycle (start of 5th week). I’ve made about 8lb of gains this month. But at this point I thought I’d be making significant strength gains. Starting to think it is underdosed, on my first cycle I literally wanted to stick my dick in anything that moved, my bench went up by 60lb, life just felt amazing, this time around I’m not feeling any of that. My fucken diet is so on point too. Do you guys think I’m just tripping out and it’s to early to have kicked in fully yet? I go for blood tests in 3 weeks, but i’d like to know now if I’m been jipped

Test E ought to be kicking in here shortly, like in the next week or two. If you want to feel froggy from the jump, maybe front load with a bit of test p or dbol. Then drop both around week 5 when the longer Ester has kicked in.

In other words, this is the nature of long vs short esters.

[tinymuscles]

Test E ought to be kicking in here shortly, like in the next week or two. If you want to feel froggy from the jump, maybe front load with a bit of test p or dbol. Then drop both around week 5 when the longer Ester has kicked in.

In other words, this is the nature of long vs short esters.

So you think i’m just being paranoid, maybe give it a week or two to stop worrying about it being bunk gear? I do have Dbol at home, but it’s a little too late to front load, plus I’m running winnie at the end of the cycle, so it sort of contradicts my plan? Or do you think it’s mostly just water weight?

[Cylon357]

Lots of questions there...

It is just a little too soon to know if you are being paranoid because of the long ester kick in time.

You had noobie gains on your first cycle that you may never see the like of again.

You can look at the mirror and determine if it is water weight, fat or muscle. How is your BP? How do your pants / clothes fit now?

If you are chasing / missing the strength gains from your first cycle, you could use dbol as a PWO for a bit. It kicks pretty quick, IMO.

What ARE your goals with this cycle, BTW? I must have missed that.

Blood work will also answer the question pretty well of "were you jipped or not".

[tinymuscles]

BP is 120/80

My goals this cycle are to put on as much muscle as possible, then towards the end of the cycle, lean out and drop body fat for that vascular look and effect.

You could be right though, i’ve been training for ten years now, and I might be expecting to much out of this cycle. My first cycle I felt like I could walk on water. The amount of compliments I got drove my eager through the roof, maybe i’m just getting ancy, I’ll touch base in 2 weeks with a blood test.

Would it contradict my goals to run dbol for 2 weeks? considering I’ll be running winnie my last 4 weeks of injections?

I know dbol is 95% water weight and it basically leaves your system instantly. But it may provide the heavy lifting and pump I need to grow the muscles quicker until i run the winnie

[Cylon357]

I'm not a fan of beginner cycles that are both bulk and cut. IMO, it's best at that level to pick one and stick with it through the cycle.

That said, you are correct about the dbol. I would call it a toss up on running it or just waiting a few days for the test to really hit. IDK, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

[redz]

Agreed bulk or cut is generally optimal.

[Honkey_Kong]

I’m currently taking 500mg test e Metabolic
500iu hcg a week.

This is my second cycle. Today is DAY 28 of my cycle (start of 5th week). I’ve made about 8lb of gains this month. But at this point I thought I’d be making significant strength gains. Starting to think it is underdosed, on my first cycle I literally wanted to stick my dick in anything that moved, my bench went up by 60lb, life just felt amazing, this time around I’m not feeling any of that. My fucken diet is so on point too. Do you guys think I’m just tripping out and it’s to early to have kicked in fully yet? I go for blood tests in 3 weeks, but i’d like to know now if I’m been jipped

You gained 8lbs in a month and you think your gear is bunk? I mean if your "fucken diet is so on point too," then I'd assume that was lean muscle gains. 8lbs of muscle in a month is great.

[< <Samson> >]

Just get blood work

I thought my dude’s shit was under dosed, nope - over dosed, and my estro was high af