I love creatine

**GMAN(get"N"swole)** · 02-20-2010, 01:46 PM

NOna vapor is the shit, i get incredible pumps. this shit gets you crunk in the weight room

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 01:47 PM

lol lounge material? maybe supps. Good for you man, i hope your getting swole.

**GMAN(get"N"swole)** · 02-20-2010, 01:51 PM

haha mybad still getting used to the site. its ridiculous how hyp that shit gets you

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 01:54 PM

jack3D try that. I dont like any of that shit cause i feel like i am coming down after. I run eca, stick to less then one min between sets and I get phenomenal pumps with nothing.

**GMAN(get"N"swole)** · 02-20-2010, 01:58 PM

is it another creatine?

**Hard.On** · 02-20-2010, 02:01 PM

Dbol gives me 100x better pumps

I was looking up some of your stuff on google I came across this...
http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/357702/
lol

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 02:01 PM

just search that shit in google.

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 02:03 PM

one of the guys makes a very good point in that thread, just eat red meat in your diet once a day. I do that every day i have at least one lean steak. Maybe that is one reason why i get good pumps.

**GMAN(get"N"swole)** · 02-20-2010, 02:07 PM

lol a gay forum wow lol i eat about 3 servings of tuna after my workout 3 times a week, and the other days i eat 5 eggs after. and if im in a hurry after i workout i eat a 50g protein shake. but i never eat protein shakes on the regular because i like to get my protein from food

**AlphaGenetics** · 02-20-2010, 02:10 PM

Creatine gives me great pumps and endurance along with strength. It seems to give my heart sharp pains though.

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 02:10 PM

lol how much protein do you think you get a day doesnt sound like enough to me.

**GMAN(get"N"swole)** · 02-20-2010, 02:13 PM

i get way more protein than what i just posted. although i think i could use alittle more. i was thinkin about carnivore, heard of it??????

**c-Z** · 02-20-2010, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

lol lounge material? maybe supps. Good for you man, i hope your getting swole.

Not even supp material.. Its more of a conversation piece. LOL..... I always get good pumps... I was sore thursday from chest that i did monday... Towards the end i usually just try to do a nice strict drop set to failure. Always pumps me up nice.

**GMAN(get"N"swole)** · 02-20-2010, 02:19 PM

lol i know mybad man, but its a nice conversation piece haha. today i worked out my upper body and started the creatine cycle today, i had no option but to go to failure lol i just had so much energy. has anybody had carnivore from musclemeds, and is it worth the $$$

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 02:19 PM

hit up the supplement section. Have a good day man.

**Ashop** · 02-20-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

jack3D try that. I dont like any of that shit cause i feel like i am coming down after. I run eca, stick to less then one min between sets and I get phenomenal pumps with nothing.

No sides from the jack3D?

**Teufel_Hunden** · 02-20-2010, 03:07 PM

creatine cycle=LMFAO

**Vitruvian-Man** · 02-20-2010, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Teufel_Hunden

creatine cycle=LMFAO

x2

LOL. I know eh. 2 pounds of water weight + minimal strength gains. sick.

It's good for vascularity people. That's it.

People who buy into the creatine hype are usually the people who end up w/ the "d-bol only cycle w/ tribulus for PCT" questions 2 months later

hahahahaha.

jokesss.

-VM

**c-Z** · 02-20-2010, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

x2

LOL. I know eh. 2 pounds of water weight + minimal strength gains. sick.

It's good for vascularity people. That's it.

People who buy into the creatine hype are usually the people who end up w/ the "d-bol only cycle w/ tribulus for PCT" questions 2 months later

hahahahaha.

jokesss.

-VM

HAHA

I'm on a creatine cycle now! 10grams ed weeks 1-10. Hoping to get HUGE!

**bjpennnn** · 02-20-2010, 03:22 PM

make sure you ran an aggressive pct after.

**InknSteel** · 02-20-2010, 04:21 PM

Jack3d FTW! NaNOvapor made me sick as hell when I took it. Been taking Jack for 2 months now and I get great pumps and focus on it.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 02-20-2010, 04:35 PM

nanovapor??? lmao

stop wasting your hard earned money on musclesh!t products

**Vitruvian-Man** · 02-20-2010, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

nanovapor??? lmao

stop wasting your hard earned money on musclesh!t products

...x2

Make yourself a 20oz cup of coffee pre-workout.

or just buy some pure creatine powder and caffeine pills... take 15 mins pre-workout (for a total of $10 for 1000 servings) and you'll get the same product as "nanovapor"

to the real world! LOLL

-VM

**c-Z** · 02-20-2010, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

make sure you ran an aggressive pct after.

I was thinking of doing some d-anabol 25 for my pct with some deca 200. What do you think?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 02-20-2010, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

I was thinking of doing some d-anabol 25 for my pct with some deca 200. What do you think?

That's perfect. Make sure you add the Pituitary Growth Hormone to help with the recovery!

-VM

**Bossman** · 02-20-2010, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by GMAN(get"N"swole)

lol a gay forum wow lol i eat about 3 servings of tuna after my workout 3 times a week, and the other days i eat 5 eggs after. and if im in a hurry after i workout i eat a 50g protein shake. but i never eat protein shakes on the regular because i like to get my protein from food

Try taking 50 grams of whey and some simple carbs (50-100grams) post workout. Your body needs the quick sources then more then any other time.

**c-Z** · 02-20-2010, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

That's perfect. Make sure you add the Pituitary Growth Hormone to help with the recovery!

-VM

Alright thanks. IM GOING TO BE HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGEEE!

ROFL

**MuscleScience** · 02-20-2010, 08:32 PM

I dont know about you guys, but I think the 3000+ studies that show creatine is safe and effective is nothing to laugh about.

**TheArtist** · 02-20-2010, 09:17 PM

i think swifto posted a tidbit of information that creatine has been shown to block myostatin also.

.... so put that in nay-sayer pipes and smoke it. lol

**Vitruvian-Man** · 02-20-2010, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

I dont know about you guys, but I think the 3000+ studies that show creatine is safe and effective is nothing to laugh about.

Actually bro we are laughing at the fact that we are discussing creatine cycle in the "anabolic Q&A"

-VM

**MuscleScience** · 02-20-2010, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

Actually bro we are laughing at the fact that we are discussing creatine cycle in the "anabolic Q&A"

-VM

Creatine is a steroid right???

**TheArtist** · 02-20-2010, 09:25 PM

lol sometimes it's hard to see the forest for all the trees.

**stevey_6t9** · 02-20-2010, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Creatine is a steroid right???

lmao, i use to think it was when i first started training.

**dec11** · 02-20-2010, 11:03 PM

i had to quit the creatine, my clothes just wouldnt fit anymore

**bjpennnn** · 02-21-2010, 02:08 AM

wow this thread really got good ha

**CrazyHorse13** · 02-22-2010, 12:02 PM

NANO Vapor puts me to sleep

**Nooomoto** · 02-22-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by GMAN(get"N"swole)

NOna vapor is the shit, i get incredible pumps. this shit gets you crunk in the weight room

Uh...ok..on the 20th you LOVE creatine so much.

On the 18th you posted...

Originally Posted by GMAN(get"N"swole)

and i hate creatine it doesnt do anything for me but i keep hearing about tis super pump 250

Troll?

**Kibble** · 02-22-2010, 11:01 PM

GMAN, naNO Vapor is NOT creatine. It is a "Pre Workout Vaso Dialator Massive Explosion Unanimous Raw Power Dynamite 100lbs in 10 Days Supplement".

That does not mean it is creatine. Read the label. Creatine is included in the blend of 500 house chemicals included in Vapor.

Try plain creatine monohydrate. After 2 months you should start to notice a slight increase in strength, which will continue to improve.
Like bjpennn said, try Jack3d. It has only the essential pre-workout ingredients (imo), and it provides excellent concentration, focus and energy.

But creatine cycle.... lol. If you run creatine for 10-12 weeks you may be dissapointed. OP, try running an external source of creatine daily. 5 grams mixed into your post-workout shake

**Frank1** · 02-23-2010, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man

...x2

Make yourself a 20oz cup of coffee pre-workout.

or just buy some pure creatine powder and caffeine pills... take 15 mins pre-workout (for a total of $10 for 1000 servings) and you'll get the same product as "nanovapor"

to the real world! LOLL

-VM

I agree with this and add that red meat does wonders for big pumps. I HAVE used NO-explode as well, but found that the above is just as effective and cheaper.