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    white willow bark with ECA stack help

    I know for ECA its 25mg E 200mg C 86MG A

    I want to replace the aspirin with white willow bark my caps are 400mg of white willow bark .


    does anyone have information how much white willow bark with EC ? seems a lot of people are using white willow but no one tells the amount

    thanks

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    Everything that I have found in journal texts shows dosages between 120 and 240mg ED. How exactly this translates to aspirin dosages is never quantified.
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    my caps are 400mg lol

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    What dosage info are you looking for? You can take 1000+ without issues.
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    im wondering is 400mg 3 times a day is to much ?

    I'm currently taking 200mg caffeine and 25mg ephedrine 3x a day I don't want to use aspirin so I was told white willow bark is better and safer but from what I see its 150-200mg 3x a day not 400mg...

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    It's not too much. Try 1 cap on day one, then do 2 doses next day, if you feel good move to 3 doses daily. Just to see how you feel but yes, it needs to be 3 times daily because of the super short half life.
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    yeah , I just cannot find anyone using white willow and the does amount its weird..

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    Probably because it's worthless. I can attest to that.
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    Eca is outdated.
    Available forms in the US are primatene and bronkaid. Both have guafenesin as an expectorant already.
    Beyond that all the asprin you will need is a low dose 81mg per day.
    Caffeine does increase the effects , which I dose according to jitters.
    The half life of ephedrine is greatly increased by urine acidity. Urine acidity is increased by inorganic acod such as in coca cola or by high sulfur bound acids in yogurt, buttermilk etc.
    You can feelwhen eca peaks. High urine acidity will keepyou at that peak much longer.
    For more info check out doctox's comments in this thread of mine and follow some of the links posted by me and RichardCabeza. http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...s-overuse.html

    White willow bark is something you would find in a "all natural cleanse".
    Its no miracle and you probably wont see any affect from it.
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    I'm in Canada my ephedrine is over the counter im staking it with mk 677 and cardarine
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    I quit dosing asprin and caffeine to any certain specification. I just do 1 low dose asprin and adjust my expectorants to suit.

    Do you guys get bronkaid and primatene only there too?

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    It contains salicin, of which aspirin is a derivative. Not sure what the advantage over aspirin would be or why you don't want to take aspirin. I happen to like aspirin, other than the tummy issues, but all NSAIDs carry those risks. Aspirin can have an anesthetic type effect in addition to the anti-inflammatory properties so helps me with knee pain on leg day. I realize this is not what you are taking for, though.
    The issue with natural supplements is you never know what you're getting or how much, at least in the US. What does your product contain 400mg of? Whites willow bark or certain constituents? I don't see that based on what Austinite offered dose would be much of an issue and you could just go with the industry recommended dosage which is likely on the bottle. For me...I would likely opt for aspirin.

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