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    1 minite break between sets - tired as hell!

    I read on many sites you gotta rest for 1 minute to build muscles...but it's harder on the next exercise....fatigued sets in quicker with 1 minutes compared to 3 minutes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by choata15 View Post
    I read on many sites you gotta rest for 1 minute to build muscles...but it's harder on the next exercise....fatigued sets in quicker with 1 minutes compared to 3 minutes...

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    Yep, but it’s great for fat loss and cardio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Yep, but it’s great for fat loss and cardio.
    That's the main point of shorter rest periods, its kind of like cardio at that point
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    Quote Originally Posted by choata15 View Post
    I read on many sites you gotta rest for 1 minute to build muscles...but it's harder on the next exercise....fatigued sets in quicker with 1 minutes compared to 3 minutes...

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    The only time I use short rest periods is with lighter weight/finisher/accessory work
    There is no fucking way I'm resting for one minute after squatting or deadlifting
    Just the other day I was hitting short, really short rest periods for shoulders/arms/triceps but those where finisher movements for me and hitting 20+ reps on an isolation isn't a problem when using lighter weights

    If you're trying to rest for a minute or less and get back to compound movements i think you're either nuts or probably more trained than the average gym goer, I don't have enough let in the tank to lift heavier and heavier with shorter rest periods on big compound lifts..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    The only time I use short rest periods is with lighter weight/finisher/accessory work
    There is no fucking way I'm resting for one minute after squatting or deadlifting
    Just the other day I was hitting short, really short rest periods for shoulders/arms/triceps but those where finisher movements for me and hitting 20+ reps on an isolation isn't a problem when using lighter weights

    If you're trying to rest for a minute or less and get back to compound movements i think you're either nuts or probably more trained than the average gym goer, I don't have enough let in the tank to lift heavier and heavier with shorter rest periods on big compound lifts..
    Hi thanks for your answer...

    Will 3 minutes break still build muscle mass tho?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choata15 View Post
    Hi thanks for your answer...

    Will 3 minutes break still build muscle mass tho?

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    Of course
    I personally think building muscle is more important than "cutting" weight through shorter rest periods. I use the strongman type of training, I'm not a body builder although my arms would say otherwise...
    Basically there is a thread about this and we discussed it some time ago as for me

    Compounds like squats/dedlifts I need 3-6 (maybe even more) minutes of rest after a heavy set. I don't see the value of one minute resting periods and forcing an injury because you are still weak from the last heavy session just a few minutes ago.
    For stuff that i can continue to do with lower weight i don't see a problem with higher reps and lighter weight training with 60-90 sec resting periods. It will hurt, burn and you may be able to cut some weight using shorter rest periods but I don't think you're going to get that much stronger. That type of training i would say is for body building

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    The only time I use short rest periods is with lighter weight/finisher/accessory work
    There is no fucking way I'm resting for one minute after squatting or deadlifting
    Just the other day I was hitting short, really short rest periods for shoulders/arms/triceps but those where finisher movements for me and hitting 20+ reps on an isolation isn't a problem when using lighter weights

    If you're trying to rest for a minute or less and get back to compound movements i think you're either nuts or probably more trained than the average gym goer, I don't have enough let in the tank to lift heavier and heavier with shorter rest periods on big compound lifts..
    I’ll judge my recovery by heart rate a lot of times. Once it dips below a certain level the i’ll hit another set. If I’m going heavy then my recovery heart rate will be much lower in range. If my goal is to shed fat I’ll try to keep my HR up as high as I can exercise properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Of course
    I personally think building muscle is more important than "cutting" weight through shorter rest periods. I use the strongman type of training, I'm not a body builder although my arms would say otherwise...
    Basically there is a thread about this and we discussed it some time ago as for me

    Compounds like squats/dedlifts I need 3-6 (maybe even more) minutes of rest after a heavy set. I don't see the value of one minute resting periods and forcing an injury because you are still weak from the last heavy session just a few minutes ago.
    For stuff that i can continue to do with lower weight i don't see a problem with higher reps and lighter weight training with 60-90 sec resting periods. It will hurt, burn and you may be able to cut some weight using shorter rest periods but I don't think you're going to get that much stronger. That type of training i would say is for body building
    I can train every muscle group 5 times a week if i take a 3 minute rest.... but back is the most tiring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by choata15 View Post
    I can train every muscle group 5 times a week if i take a 3 minute rest.... but back is the most tiring...

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    I don't think thats a good idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I don't think thats a good idea...
    I strongly second that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    I do this during 'anaerobic conditioning'. I pick a weight that I could normally do for say, 2 sets of 8 reps or so, then do 5x5 with about a minute in between sets. Huffin', puffin' and sweatin' is the name of the game here, not moving max weights. This is sort of a modification of an old Ed Coan conditioning routine I read about maybe 25+ years ago. He advocated 8x3, but I find 5x5 works well for me.

    Edit: this is not a crossfit thing!
    You sure it sounds like a crossfit thing to me :

    I don't think I could squat/dl with shorter rest periods but I could be "Holding" myself back and saying i dont want to try shorter rest periods...
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    There is a lot of missing information. Post the amount of sets / weight being used (in terms of difficulty for you) / rest in between sets and the total workout. I am currently doing a high intensity program with at most 60seconds rest, usually 20-30 and have got the best gains of my life so far from this style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackfrost88 View Post
    There is a lot of missing information. Post the amount of sets / weight being used (in terms of difficulty for you) / rest in between sets and the total workout. I am currently doing a high intensity program with at most 60seconds rest, usually 20-30 and have got the best gains of my life so far from this style.
    What type of program? What %s are you lifting at? When I go heavier than 85% i usually need to rest a bit longer or my 95%+ sets wont be as good without longer rest periods

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    What type of program? What %s are you lifting at? When I go heavier than 85% i usually need to rest a bit longer or my 95%+ sets wont be as good without longer rest periods
    Hey bro i took your advice im now doing 2 workouts for each muscle group not one anymore....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    What type of program? What %s are you lifting at? When I go heavier than 85% i usually need to rest a bit longer or my 95%+ sets wont be as good without longer rest periods
    Doing HIT style. About an hour a workout but each exercise is done to exhaustion with low rest. Weights being used are usually 75-80% range with 10-12 reps. Took some time to be able to do weight with short rest periods but it is absolutely possible. It's even easier to achieve total muscle fatigue this way. For example, did 495 on deadlift today in this style with 45second rest in between sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackfrost88 View Post
    Doing HIT style. About an hour a workout but each exercise is done to exhaustion with low rest. Weights being used are usually 75-80% range with 10-12 reps. Took some time to be able to do weight with short rest periods but it is absolutely possible. It's even easier to achieve total muscle fatigue this way. For example, did 495 on deadlift today in this style with 45second rest in between sets.
    I dont know how you guys do extended cardio sessions, last night i could barely go last it. I'd rather get some heavy kettlebells or dumbbells and walk around the gym for a few laps

    regarding the program is this something you came up with or is it a cookie cutter type programs like 5/3/1 or SS?
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    If your goal is hypertrophy, the important thing is consistent rest time.
    Volume is the main driver of hypertrophy
    More rest time == more volume. There's diminishing results obviously. Latest study I've seen says less than 60 seconds is worthless. So 60 seconds and up. I don't have the time to do longer than that in the gym. I do 90 on heavy compound, and 60 for isos. But once again, consistency is key so you can track and properly overload

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I dont know how you guys do extended cardio sessions, last night i could barely go last it. I'd rather get some heavy kettlebells or dumbbells and walk around the gym for a few laps

    regarding the program is this something you came up with or is it a cookie cutter type programs like 5/3/1 or SS?
    It's what my coach gave me. Similar to Mike Mentzer style. Can't load the weight up that much but so far it's been great for growth. Only been doing 3-4months

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    to the OP. If your that tired with 1 minute rest breaks instead of increasing the rest you can reduce the weight. With short rest periods you are not going to be able to do the types of weight you are used to, but this does NOT mean you are not progressing. It's a different type of style but can absolutely be effective. You just can't do the same weight as you are used to with unlimited or 3 minutes of rest (which is very high - your almost doing powerlifting at this point)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    Latest study I've seen says less than 60 seconds is worthless.
    Just curious if you recall the name of the study? I'm a rather ardent proponent of short rest periods and would love to have a study that lets me knock it off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie67 View Post
    Just curious if you recall the name of the study? I'm a rather ardent proponent of short rest periods and would love to have a study that lets me knock it off
    I don't. I think it was one of the mass research review studies. Can't recall

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