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    magicgear is offline New Member
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    first cycle 20% - 12% in 8 weeks

    i will be completing the following gear for my first cycle as i know it has done wonders for others on this site i do diet and cardio all the time so everything is in order i will be taking 75mgs fina ED with 100mg day of prop and averaging 120mcg of t3 and please feel free to critique
    i will use arimidex and milk thistle all the way through with nolva as pct also have liquidex

    carbs about 60gr a day
    protein 370gr a day
    fats 100gr
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    bf%-20
    height 5-9
    waist 38
    thx

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    weight is 199lbs

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    well for the first cycle you shouldnt be using tren .

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    That cycle isn't for a beginner you need to do a cycle of test at 400-500mg a week

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    That cycle is not exactly a beginner's cycle, but based
    on your goals it is a good one for what you are trying
    to acheive... Tren is a harsh drug to use for your first
    cycle though... And T3 is also not for a beginner, how
    much have you researched this cycle before you jump
    into it?

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    i have researched for awhile but my prob is everyone says do test do test i am not wanting to gain muscle i want lose thee xtra 30lbs or so of fat and start over fresh then gain

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    Your first cycle is the best so dont waste it on a cutter.

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    this isnt a very good idea bro, just go out and buy a $5 bottle of ephedra and bust your ass.pay attention to your calories and what kind of food goes into your body, you should be able to shred the fat off without any steroids , you dont wanna **** your receptors up on a cutter cycle as your first.

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    "i do diet and cardio all the time so everything is in order"

    if this was true you wouldnt be 20%BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaniac
    "i do diet and cardio all the time so everything is in order"

    if this was true you wouldnt be 20%BF.
    ya thats very true also.i havnt been on a treadmill for over a year and my bodyfat is still under 10% year round(cept for the recent test cycle i was on) b/c of a clean diet.

    if you really payed attention to your diet, and training you should be able to take that weight off without a prob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaniac
    "i do diet and cardio all the time so everything is in order"

    if this was true you wouldnt be 20%BF.
    well he could have a hypoactive thyroid gland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    And T3 is also not for a beginner, how
    much have you researched this cycle before you jump
    into it?

    Well that's news to me. Not saying it's not true but I would have to say I disagree if it is properly researched.

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    T3 is far from a beginner drug...

    Just ask anyone that's been around
    and i don't just mean around the boards...

    I agree if researched it's not as dangerous
    like most drugs, but it's not for a 1st timer
    you know better then that I hope right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Well that's news to me. Not saying it's not true but I would have to say I disagree if it is properly researched.

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    T3 should be used with caution you can permanatly ruin your thyroid funtions so you'll
    be fat or have to take pills the rest of your life...and it makes me feel like
    death....If you read enough on anything you can cut the dangers down to almost
    nothing..so good luck, magicgear and read up.

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    thx king

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