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    My first basic cycle - Comments plz

    I'm doing a first cycle to improve body mass, I'm looking to gain about 20-30lb in mass.

    Week 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate /300mg
    Week 1-12 Vitamin B-12 Shots .5 cc's

    With a fairly large chest and arms weight program throughout as that's where I really need it.

    Here's my diet, which I found and covers all the needed Calories etc. Looks darn tasty too

    First meal, 7 am:
    8 oz. oatmeal 25 155 18 880
    0.6 1 skim milk, 0.3% fat 21 29 2 240
    0.2 1 orange juice --- 18 --- 80
    3 oz. grapes 1 17 --- 70

    Second meal, 10.30 am:
    10 oz, whole wheat bread 18 120 6 600
    4 oz. cheese, 12% fat 22 5 10 200
    0.51 kefir milk 20 20 4
    1 banana 1 35 ---150


    Third meal, 2.00 pm:
    8 oz. brown rice 22 170 6 850
    10 oz. turkey 60 --- 5 300
    5 oz. vegetables 1 7 --- 30


    Fourth meal, 5.30 pm
    5 whole eggs 30 --- 30 400
    16 Oz. baked potatoes 10 100 5 430
    Mixed salad 1 10 ---50


    Fifth meal, 9,00 pm:
    7 oz. cottage cheese 25 5 4 200
    7 Oz. whole wheat bread 12 80 4 400
    1 oz. peanut buffer 6 3 10 120
    1 apple, approx. 4 oz. --- 14 --- 60
    0.2 1 orange juice --- 18 --- 80

    Total: P-285 / CH-806 / Fat-104 / Calories-5340

    What do you think? I dont really want to add anything else but do you think that's sufficent to reach my goal?

    BTW I'm 25, 5' 8" and 160lb's.

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    You might want to bump the test e dose up to 400-500 mg/week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    You might want to bump the test e dose up to 400-500 mg/week.
    definatly would help you reach your goal alot faster

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    You have your anti's in place?plus your pct?

    I set my goals at 15-20 pounds on that cycle,so you won't be too disappointed.

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    You won't gain 30lbs.....if you do lots will be fat....stick to 15 or so like Da Bull said....that is why he is Da Bull..

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    20-30lbs might be too steep for only 300mg of test a week.i would go with what nsa said..

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    If you want that kind of weight you should throw in deca at like 400 mg and test e at 500 mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    If you want that kind of weight you should throw in deca at like 400 mg and test e at 500 mg.
    I have to disagree with you bro..i know several bros who ran low dose test cycles thier first time out and put on 13-17 pounds.It's all in diet and training.More gear is NOT always the answer.

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    Yeah, but he said he wants to gain like 20-30 pounds. Its gonna take more than 300 mg test e a week to do that.

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    gotta agree with dabull on that one I ran 250mg my first cycle and gained 28lbs, dropped 6 when i came off. As long as diet and training are in order it can be done, not that I'm recommending 250mg and that was with IP sust. I know better now

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    You can throw some dbol in there for the first 4 weeks at 30mg's a day... that will help get the ball rolling coupled with 500mg's of test... You don't need the dbol for your first cycle but it will help you obtain your goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    Yeah, but he said he wants to gain like 20-30 pounds. Its gonna take more than 300 mg test e a week to do that.
    I know bro..some ppl have bigger eyes than appetite.

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    test/eq will give u more mass than jsut test e by itself?

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    I'm thinking Nolvadex for anti-e, I've heard people say they just use that and not bother with the Nolva whats the view on that?

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    They are the same thing bro... Nolva = Nolvadex
    Quote Originally Posted by Twammo
    I'm thinking Nolvadex for anti-e, I've heard people say they just use that and not bother with the Nolva whats the view on that?

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    Sorry I meant without the Clomid It is 3:30am here

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    yeah seems like every source of mine says not to bother with nolva you're first time out. it makes no sence to me. nuts to that i dont want tits.

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    i think 20 lb is a good goal, but i wouldn't shoot for 30 if you're already a big guy... i think if i had low body fat, then i probably would noticed more gains... the total i gained in my 12 week of test-e 500mg/wk in addition of 400mg deca was only about 15-20 lb... so it really depends on your body... im sure i've shed off some fat during my cycle as well... thus decreasing weight...

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