Thread: 1st cycle question
06-22-2004, 12:18 PM #1
1st cycle question
im 25, trained for years, done near a year of research, feel i have a pretty decent understanding of everything, never done AAS, only M1T cycles, have close friends who have done AAS for years, talked to a lot of people, blah blah blah....
I think ive decided on doing a cycle of Test E 500mg/week wk 1-12, and dbol 30mgs ED wk 1-4..(some have said thats high, some have recommended that dosage).....
I was told i should do the test e two shots a week, Monday and Thursday, and the dbols, 1 pill split in 1/4, i piece 4x's a day for the first 4 weeks.
Any opinions on that so far?
I should run Nolva throughout the cycle 10mgs ED?
I'd run Nolva and Clomid for pct...i was told that i wouldnt need HCG for this cycle, or liquidex, but liquidex would help w/ the bloat right? so is it something that if i want to spend $ on, would be beneficial? Also i have sources for the PCT, but if im going to be taking 10mg of nolva through the cycle, and pill form is 35mg, should i have liquid form on hand? I dont know about splitting the pills into 3, or how im supposed to split the dbol into 1/4's like suggested?
I might have the cyle weeks wrong, because when he emailed me about pct, he said i was only going to do a 10 week cycle, thats why i didnt need HCG, but seems like i listed doing test e for 12 weeks? I'll get that figured out.
thanks for any advice...sorry for sounding like a newby and another 'first cylce thread';....but it is what the board is for right? thanks bros
06-22-2004, 12:21 PM #2
Very good layed out cycle!!! It's nice to see you did your research!
06-22-2004, 12:22 PM #3
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06-22-2004, 12:23 PM #5Originally Posted by Krunchtime
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06-22-2004, 12:24 PM #7Originally Posted by buylongterm
06-22-2004, 12:29 PM #8
nice set up man! good luck and happy growing! note if you done your research on diet like you did with a.s. you are going to see some **** hit the fan
06-22-2004, 12:35 PM #9Originally Posted by Da Bull
so do u guys say 1-12 weeks on the test e, or 1-10? He also said 2 bottles, i dont know much about how it works yet as far as the bottles, and how many uses at how many gms etc are included, but i will ask him more, he is pretty much laying it out for me.
Thanks for the advice on the smaller dbols, its just i only have this one source, through my close friend, and i dont want to go looking for someone on my own ya know, so im kind of stuck w/ what he can get, but i will ask him about that, he might know a couple other people.
Thanks again guys for the advice, and sorry for the scare w/ the title, lol.
I've done the searches on liquidex, so sorry for the questions on that, know its been discussed, its just there is a lot of different opinions on it, and i was curious for my cycle only...my friend said not neccessary, but if im worried about bloat he would go w/ that over Letro....? Any opinions?
also if i have pct sites, which he says he's used and good, and i believe them, which of u want a PM, that i can ask your opinons on? thanks.!
06-22-2004, 12:47 PM #10Originally Posted by hung-solo
06-22-2004, 01:11 PM #11Senior Member
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Happy growing bro..this is how research pays off...
06-22-2004, 01:16 PM #12Junior Member
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if you have 2 bottles of test e 250 mg/ml and you run 500 mg p/week, it will be 5 weeks per bottle, thus a 10 week cycle.
06-22-2004, 01:18 PM #13
so 30mgs of dbol per day week 1-4 is good in your guys opinions i guess? if i can only get 25mg dbols, how do i split them up to take 1/4 4x's a day? even then it wouldnt be 30mgs...so is 25 cool?..i would imagine so, i know he said 'around' 30 a day...
and how exactly does the test e come? (if that can be discussed?)...i know its the bottle, but how many uses are in each bottle? Two bottles is enough for 12 weeks, taking 2 shots a week?
06-22-2004, 01:20 PM #14
oh, ok, sorry...Thanks i get it now, the bottles are measured in ml...i guess i'll undestand that more when i get it, and the needles and i understand how much he will be putting in each needle...as i said, he will do the injections for me the first cycle, so i feel safer about that...thanks FB35
06-22-2004, 01:33 PM #15Originally Posted by Fame
if you get 25mgs hmm split it into quarters 6.5mg a 1/4 and take 5 a day (a bit over 30mg i know)
or yea 25 is ok..but id do the 30
test e can come in 1ml vials containing 250mg or in 10ml vials containing 200mg/ml depends on the lab
06-22-2004, 01:46 PM #16Originally Posted by map200uk
Thanks again everyone, sorry for being a pest.
so i'd be cool on a 10 week cycle of test e, instead of 12?
06-22-2004, 01:49 PM #17Originally Posted by Fame
06-22-2004, 01:58 PM #18
i take milk thistle as it is now...but i will take the dose that is recommended during the cycle as well ( i have it listed in my notes , yes, i have notes!)....i started taking it after M1t, and i had some, so i take one pill ed or eod, just for my health.
oh, also i do keep records now as it is, measurements, weight training, some diet etc...which i will keep more religiously when i start the cycle, as well as bfore and after pics, so i'll keep a good log...i believe record keeping is important and makes a difference in improving everything. Plus i like to look at back and see my gains. I remember how week i was at one point! I also love to see how much my lifts go up over certain periods based on what i have going on in my life.
BTW, i have good recources...but i also have an uncle who is retired but was a pro bb'er, and has 8 amature titles...and did aas early on, and had big health problems (not blook uncle, married my aunt) but he is very against the aas idea, and i havent talked to him about it, as i know what he will tell me, but he does help me w/ training and diet and is there for me whenever i need anything (which is good to have)..he's also a pro trainer now, and has leased all the equipment from the gym, and has a full gym in his house , i dont train there regularly, but its good when i need a change up (he's all into that HIT and Metzger (sp) training, i do straight sets right now though, so its akward sometimes for me to train w/ him)
Sorry for all the information that no one cares about! i went on a tangent, sorry
06-22-2004, 02:14 PM #19
ok, i didnt see anything in the rules against pricing questions...is $100 for each 10ml bottle of test e , and $1 for each 25mg Dbol pill decent or average prices? Or is my middle man making a lot off me?
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06-22-2004, 02:23 PM #21Senior Member
Originally Posted by Fame
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06-22-2004, 02:24 PM #22
cool man, thanks...and i do have one more question. I will talk to my friend who does aas about this too...
What is the 'feeling like' of having it in your system? to be honest, i've done a lot of drugs in my life....(everything exept injections pretty much, and crack)...so im wondering what kind of sensations u get, if any...i remember my friend saying he basically 'had' to go to the gym, if he didnt, he'd be jittery or something (but he did diff as)...is there a feeling of the test e or dbol ? i know how it affects your body, but not really sure if it affects your nervious system or mentaly etc.
06-22-2004, 02:25 PM #23Originally Posted by kronik
06-22-2004, 02:28 PM #24
I cant speak for the Test yet but the Dbol gives me an amazing sense of well being, lifted mood, agressiveness, heightened sex drive, etc. Yes there is a sensation to it and a drive to workout, its great imo
06-23-2004, 09:37 AM #25
Are you running liquidex to help w/ bloating at all? Is it worth it for this cycle to get a bottle?
Also, and answer on method of splitting the 25mg dbols?
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