07-21-2004, 05:37 PM #1
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07-21-2004, 05:46 PM #3
you should have atleast 7 weeks of winny i think and you need test!!!!!!! dont forget PCT
07-21-2004, 06:40 PM #4
You don't have a cycle unless you have test! Test is the base for all cycles.
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07-22-2004, 02:55 PM #6
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07-25-2004, 11:15 PM #8
Despite this we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with other compounds.
this is my first cycle and after researching I found the above quote under the profile for test enanthate . recently everone on this sight has been saying the opposite. if anyone has any information that can clear this up for me i would appreciate it.
07-26-2004, 12:57 AM #9
i'm in the same situation. i read a similar quote and was convinced to leave test for a later cycle. but everyone on the boards advised me to do test. e first cycle.
there is no doubt that test is the main component of all good cycles, but if us newbies start on the test straight away are we going to be getting less of an effect come 2nd or 3rd cycle?
07-26-2004, 12:20 PM #10
my cycle looks like this.
qv deca 300 weeks 1-10
50mg winstrol tabs weeks 6-12
clomid pct and possibly clenbuterol
im 5'9 215pnds and i can put up 315 for 2reps. i want a good 15-20 pounds of quality muscle and i want to keep it. ive been using this websight for almost four years and up until about six months ago this would have been a great novice cycle, now everybodys opinion has changed.
what did your first cycle look like and what were your results?
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