Thread: HELP: L-Femara or Liquidex
08-11-2004, 05:19 PM #1
HELP: L-Femara or Liquidex
Just about to make an order for my anti-es and I need some help. I have a choice between Liquid Femara and Liquid Armidex. I've heard Femara is better as it doesn't shut down IGF-1 like Armidex does - see below. What should I use then Nolva +L-Femara or Nolva + L-Dex?
Relative Potency of Type 1 & 2 Aromatase Inhibitors
Product Aromatase Inhibition (%)
Aromasin (Exemestane) 97.9%
Cytadren (Aminoglutethimide) 90.6%
Arimidex (Anastrozole) 96.7%
Femara (Letrozole ) 98.7%
By the looks of it, Femara (Letrozole) is the strongest inhibitor.
But, there is a potential problem in that estrogen, and more so estradiol, can trigger GH release from the pituitary gland ... this can effect IGF-1 production AND receptors (negatively OR positively). Take a look at the below chart:
How Various Estrogen Inhibitors & Blockers Effect IGF-1
Formestane Increases 26%
Aromasin (Exemestane) Increases 28%
Cytadren (Aminoglutethimide) Increases 27%
Arimidex (Anastrozole) Decreases 18%
Femara (Letrozole) Increases 24%
Faslodex (Fulvestrant) Decreases 70%
Nolvadex (Tomaxifen) Decreases 23.5%
So - L-dex or L-Femara????
08-11-2004, 05:30 PM #2Member
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I would go with the femara.
08-11-2004, 07:30 PM #3
Bump - 1 for Femara.
Any other opinions out there?
PS - I bloat like an SOB, even on 40mg of Nolva/day.
08-11-2004, 07:33 PM #4New Member
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Dont forget though, femara is the only one of the three that has a substantial rebound of estro production.
08-11-2004, 07:38 PM #5
femara...but watch your dose..it can hurt your sex drive if to much is taken.
08-11-2004, 07:38 PM #6
hmmm - didn't know that.
So I'd be dealing with some rebound effect of estrogen after PCT (when I stop Femara).
Anyone else comment on Femara?
08-11-2004, 07:39 PM #7
What dose of Femara is recommended....sounding more like L-Dex might be better?
08-11-2004, 07:43 PM #8
Id also like to know what the deal is with it... I know that some say .5mg EOD is enough to counter any bad sides... but what about femara? is 1.25 eod or ed enough? or should I run the full 2.5mg per day... what say you
08-11-2004, 08:16 PM #9
Njou812 will you do me a favor??? I would like to have the whole article that had those charts you listed above about Aromatase inhibitors. If you could either post the whole article( or what ever it was) or provide a link to the article, I would appreciate it. Thank you
08-11-2004, 08:24 PM #10Originally Posted by Tank010101
08-11-2004, 09:22 PM #11
Im going to be on a gram of test and 600mg eq... do you think ill have sex drive probs still? thanks
08-11-2004, 09:44 PM #12Originally Posted by Tank010101
08-11-2004, 09:54 PM #13Swellin Guest
I started out by running too much femera, but had no sexual sides to speak of. I sure didn't have any bloat either!
So let me cast my vote for femera at 1.25 EOD to be adjusted as needed.
08-12-2004, 02:08 AM #14
thanks ill give that a try
09-04-2004, 10:24 PM #15
From what ive read a good combo and dose would be 10-20mg nolva/ed and 0.25mg femera/ed
09-04-2004, 10:35 PM #16
Femera does a better job at minimizing water retention than l-dex...at least it did for me,....and thanks goes out to DB and KOM for telling me about femera, i was holding water like a sponge until I started on it...
09-05-2004, 07:12 PM #17
femera is better for a few reasons...
1st it controls estrogen completely ( so no bloat at all )
2nd it raises IGF level by 27% ( igf is why we use GH )
3rd it will reverse gyno by starving the lump of estrogen and thus the lump disapates.
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