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    planning a cycle - advice needed

    I posted this originally in another post and i really screwed it up. Here goes again:
    This is what i've put together as my next cycle. I'm gathering the materials so any adjustments I need to make - now's the time. The EQ is a strong anabolic and not too toxic for 3 months worth. The cycle starts with a month of mass powered by Arnold's favorite. Then a month of mass powered by the strongest in this stack - Testosterone . The last month is a cleanup maybe even some dieting to drop some fat and harden the new size. The usual clen /clomid ending. Of course proviron to protect the tits (AVOID is a better word).
    My vitals: i'll be 36 by time this cycle starts - been lifting since the Reagan years. Second cycle. Current weight 182, 6 feet tall. Slim frame. Hard gainer. High-protein low-fat diet. Goal is quality muscle with emphasis on size and some gut reduction is always nice. I'm wondering if (1) what the ideal Test and should I run the Test the first 4 weeks too (2) should I sqeeze in 2 weeks of HCG and no juice after week 8 to allow some regeneration (3) should I sub Primo for the Eq in the last 4 Winstrol weeks if i'm going to diet? Any/all input comments is appreciated!

    week---Equip----------D-bol-----------Test--------------Winstrol--
    ---1----80mg/EOD---4 tabs/day
    ---2----80mg/EOD---6 tabs/day
    ---3----100mg/EOD--8 tabs/day
    ---4----100mg/EOD--6 tabs/day
    ---5----120mg/EOD--4 tabs/day----250mg
    ---6----120mg/EOD--------------------500mg
    ---7----120mg/EOD--------------------500mg
    ---8----120mg/EOD--------------------250mg
    ---9----100mg/EOD----------------------------------------50mg/EOD
    --10----100mg/EOD----------------------------------------50mg/EOD
    --11----80mg/-----------------------------------------------50mg/EOD
    --12----80mg/EOD------------------------------------------50mg/EOD

    proviron 2 tabs/day first 10 weeks. Clenbuterol pyramid weeks 13-15 and Clomid weeks 14-16.

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    ok this is the second time ive read your proposal and this is what i have to say.simplified..
    wk 1-8 eq 400 mg wk
    wk 1-8 400-600-mg test wk
    wk 8-12 winny 50 mg ed /clen +eca 2x2
    clomid 3 days out

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    cool. i'm going with sustenon for test. thx bro

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    Looks solid to me, very basic cycle. Which is always good.

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    4 plates has it right. No need for all that tapering bro. Keep it simple. What kind of eq are you running where you can get 80mg. Even @ 50mg/ml that would be 1.6 cc's. .6 of a cc that is way too complicated for me.

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    sometimes i just gotta outdo myself. i was thinking i just had to taper everything to make it work just right and a 50-100-150 pyramid looked stupid so i got a little creative with the 80-100-120 thing. yes it would be 1.6 or 2.0 or 2.4 ml. or so. now actually getting that much in the pin is what never happens

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