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    1st cycle, help planning please

    Hello everyone, Im new here. Ill explain myself, Im 6'4, 255, 21.
    Ive lost over 100lbs of fat. I transformed my body to levels no one would think I could posslibly go. Ive been training for 3 years, this year extremely seriously. Im so motivated to excel. My mind is very focused and im not immature. I eat very well, I must consume around 400grams of protien daily, split up between 6 or 7 meals. healthy carbs, healthy fats, fish oil every night. multi vs.

    I just need some advice. I would like to start with a cylce that is well suited for a 1st time user.
    Please give me advice, I will post before pictures if you would like. I cant wait to post after pics as well.

    I have access to getting Provironum 25 mg. I heard that stacking that and test prop is a good combo. But i dont have accsess to test prop, I do have to Testosterone Enanthate + Testosterone Propionate combined.

    Can you please help me out? Karma to everyone

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    Read up on the main page dude you cant just have someone set up a cycle for you when you dont understand whats going on

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    im sorry for posting my ignorance.

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    Bro, slow down. The best thing you can do is research your ass off. Test Prop is great, but for a first timer, I wouldn't recommend it because it requires every day (ED) shots. a good first cycle would be Test Enan. for 10 weeks!

    Research:

    Test Enan
    Nolvadex - anti e
    CLOMID - needed for PCT (post cycle thearpy, to help your body get back to normal)

    Congrats on all your hard work! Any questions, please let me know,


    BLT

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    Hey, you are really a godsend^ I appreciate you being kind and nice.

    So, you wouldnt recomend proviron the first time?

    So test e. at 500mg a week for 10 weeks would be good?

    Nolvadex - what dosage and when should I start?

    Clomid- one week after the 10weeks?

    I really am grateful for your knowledge and understanding.

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    start at 10 mgs a day of nolvadex , and as for clomid steroids have half lives and enanthates half life is 14 days, so 14 days after you are done your last enanthate injection you will start clomid, and it should go like this, 300 mgs the first day, 100 mgs for 10 days then 50 mgs for 10 days, and continue the nolvadex the whole way through pct. good luck

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    .....and shoot the enanthate like this 250 mg's every 3.5 days

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    the clomid I have the abilty to get is Fertomid, its the same thing i think?
    10mg is suffiecient? or should i get 20mg tabs?
    Thunder, you are a great help!
    Last edited by killagorilla187; 09-28-2004 at 01:32 PM.

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    dude i didnt take it as ignorance just make sure you know what your doing know what i mean?

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